secretary, csic, when we liberated kabul we discovered in a safe house that was al qaeda safe house apparently, evidence that the "uss cole" operation a year before cost about $10,000. for that they mobilized a $1 million warship, killed sailors, ship out of action for two years, and in that context, the system is, of course, very important and when the treasury, told knme that was the single biggest problem. can you tell me what headway you've made on this system? >> yagreat question. the hawala system, which, for those who don't know, although i assume most people here do, is a way to move money, not involving the formal financial sector, but through essentially through communications between trusted partners. sort of its akin to western union, but somewhat more -- somewhat more simplified system. we are focused particularly on the use of the hawala system, you know, domestically and internationally. it exists all around the world in different ways. what makes it difficult is, it is, in some respects, a little below the threshold. it's not -- it isn't because it's not part of the formal fina