the blue csn of the green seal. it was republican congress for the second half of his term. >> that's a really good talk. >> thank you. you were really good listener. >> thank you. >> you mentioned, of course, that you had a fondness for grover cleveland. is that because you think he's a great president? wrigley put him? >> well, he had a muppet named after him. you have to like grover. just like us said, it's amazing. to lose the white house, come back four years later and when it back. i don't care who the president, the politics is always involved. will ever happen again? it is impossible to conceive of now an incumbent president losing, a retiring to their $200,000 a gay speaking event, which is exactly what i am getting paid today ironically. [laughter] but grover did not have that. no pensions for presidents at the time, and part of the concern was pretty much the only job that he enjoyed it could do. he retired to new york between his two terms and did a little bit of lawyering, mostly as a mediator. but it's