liz: -- >> a day like today when you want to talk to somebody who has been around forever, csn downs. he was there the last time the dow hit its record high, which we thought we work might be ahead today or sometime this week, but clearly it's a lot going to happen today. liz: was a light on the floor right now? >> reporter: very busy. a lot of shouting going on. we obviously have very busy close. the volume yesterday, sort of light, so even though we were moving closer to our all-time high, the conviction was not behind it. >> if you feel that today you probably don't feel as bad as ron johnson, the ceo of j.c. penney having a very tough state convincing investors that index, they could come out of the whole, down 19% at 1. five. >> reporter: terrible. terrible. the stock is terrible. the car was around this. the sales were a disaster. today, s&p downgraded it and get the ratings with an elegant. the liquidity of the company was inadequate. it is horrendous. ron johnson obvious a target figure something out. liz: speaking of retailers, we are getting set for earnings from the gap, st