they bounced off of each other; they tell us, oh, that is the cta's problem, talk to them or the ctawill say, talk to the mta, but to the general public it is one agency. hopefully during the year we will get that narrowed down, and make it a little easier so hopefully we won't have to be experts in government policy and government dealings to be able to deal with them. it is a big problem. a question for all of us is, what is the mta and the cta -- sorry, repeating myself, does the mta integrate of the plants with each other? in my area, polk street, there is something called the vaeness plan (sounds like) they will take up parking, take out left turns, all kinds of things but that plan has nothing to do with the plant they are looking at on polk street, window is only one block away. the cta says what happens on polk street has nothing to do with the vaness plan. a spokesman for

why would cta overrule something for mta? why would they be told that's a cta issue? >> they are looking at a larger, much larger picture. so that kind of thing away has a priority because you're not just looking at a neighborhood. they're looking at a much, much larger picture so their plans are much longer term in terms of what they're planning. >> right. >> right, so the cta is the county transportation. what did difficult is the fact that san francisco is a city and county in and of itself. so there are certain things, certain types of funding that we would not be able to access if we do not have a county transportation agency to be able to do some of the improvements and planning and things of that sort. but as commissioner dooley said, there focus is more on the whole county. while they be working on a project that is a section of the county is may have an impact on the entire county. but, the other question does need to be asked. what is the integration and how much do they coordinate and work on the planet together? >> that might be a question we ask them. any

the cta says what happens on polk street has nothing to do with the vaness plan. a spokesman for the mta says that what happens on polk street has nothing to do with vanesse. it is almost like saying, the city doesn't have anything to do with the golden gate bridge at cousins not our agency so we don't have to think about it on our streets. nobodyould say that but that is what they are saying to us when it comes to vanesse and polk street, and what happens on vanesse affects mission street. what happens on polk street affects fillmore street, it is a much bigger thing than just looking at things narrowly. that is something i hope that can be brought out in hearing the maybe you can find out to convince them that's the way should be. that's a series of us that will come up and talk about some of these things and hopefully you'll get some of the questions. thank you so much. >> chair adams: thank you. >> as a speaker comes up, speak your name for the record when you start your presentation thank you. >> mitchell berg, order of bow wow miau. in the project like the o

to system integration, in other words, connection agreements with pg&e and resource adequacy of the cta. and we will be needing to conduct some kind of c-e-q-a review for almost all of the renewables. it will be some kind of c-e-q-a review. it might be limited, but we have to account for that. and then, of course, revenue sources will influence how much we can do. >>> we've created this buildout timeline. and i thought i would just mention that there are a number of things that we can

and polk street we have the vaness plan which is presented to us by the cta, the county transportation authority. the polk street plan is the nta, it seems like what is going to happen on aness has no impact on what is going on the polk street plan and we are going to lose a lot of parking on vaness and all of the left tiners and that means a lot more traffic is going to be coming down i don't think that any of that is being coordinated with what is going on polk street. these things have to be coordinated and i would echo the thing about having a small business in the neighborhood person on the mta board and also would like to add that there is something called a bike advisory committee of the mta. why isn't there the neighborhood business committee of the mta. the businesses are very much a big part of this whole thing, thank you. >> thank you very much. >> next speaker, please? >> that concludes the public comment if anybody else would like to speak you could line up on the side. we have one more, my apologies. >> hi commissioners, i am the president of (inaudible) dog patch merchan

to system integration, in other words, connection agreements with pg&e and resource adequacy of the cta. and we will be needing to conduct some kind of c-e-q-a review for almost all of the renewables. it will be some kind of c-e-q-a review. it might be limited, but we have to account for that. and then, of course, revenue sources will influence how much we can do. >>> we've created this buildout timeline. and i thought i would just mention that there are a number of things that we can do right at launch besides just turning on the switch and offering electrical service. and i've mentioned them already. we can have a net metering tariff published. we can have a feed-in tariff published. we can work with our cca customers to get them enrolled in energy efficiency programs as we're developing new ones. and we can also issue an rfp early on to see apart of a survey that's out there and what kind of interest there is in building out some new, probably smaller projects at first. do you have any questions about this timeline? >> yes, i do. i don't know why everything is starting to late. >> la

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