under contract. >> what is ctc? >>speaker: columbia telecommunications company. >> that is a vendor, contractor? >>speaker: they are neutral and not trying to push one product. >> how much have we already spent in this dream? i want the overall big number. >>speaker: my understanding from work with the department of technology to understand expenditures to date 1.2 million of the 2.5 million of the project allocated has been expended and $1 million to the fiber consultant. >> thank you. appreciate that. any other allocations out there? >>speaker: the actually uses to date is $1 million for the fiber consultant and 200,000. >> how is the outside legal counsel collect? >>speaker: the city attorney and league council has experience with p3. >>speaker: okay. all right. t i want to go back to the revenue tax measure that is going to be on the ballot. so we don't really know what the project costs are exactly. we have a round figure. do you have any idea of an estimated figure of what the exact cost may be to customers to

>>speaker: i think i have great respect for ctc and work they have done. we had a number of conversations with them when we were doing our work and i know they did much more detailed analysis of factors that i mentioned like the actually state of utility poles and what it takes to access them and put more devices on them. i should add on that, i think it's about 45% of the network would actually be on poles and wired instead of underground wires, so significant piece of the network and if there is a cost differential that they identified associated with the poles, it has substantial impact. >> so what i'm interested in is precedent, exposure, and risk. what are we dealing with here? >>speaker: i think it's been stated already today there is no city the size of san francisco in the u.s. at least that has constructed anything like this. there are other public/private networks around the country like north kansas city, missouri has but a much smaller city. chattanooga also but their population is about 177,000. >> is there any chance of a lawsuit? >>speaker:

. >> we have this information from the ctc study, so i think it was 1.2-1.9 billion. >> okay, thank you very much for your presentation. let's go to public comment. i see a couple members of the public still here. thank you for staying here. you have two minutes. >> chris wideman. i have spend 35 years dealing with telecommunications law and policy and half of that time across the street at utilities commission. in 2016 the commission by unanimous vote issued a study on telecommunications competition and to the surprise of very few people found that high-speed wired broadband was not competitive. most people in california have one provider, strain i san frans lucky we have two, maybe 2.5. sonic can't get into the underground so that is the half. you have your folks out in the district and out in the city and i was riding through the lenor development the other day. from what i understand their requiring for internet. the internet itself is not the utility, it's the access. the wires all terminate to at&t. the genius of a city wholesale only network is those folks would have the opportun

it's hard to be in ctc and not know who she was.be a moderating influence. often she seemed to me to be the only adult in the room, you know. so i think that they have completely misrepresented who she is. she is a hero who should be put into a position where she can keep americans safer. there is a lot of talk about moral compasss but not the changing moral landscape. keep in mind in 2002 after being briefed senator feinstein said we may have to do things that historically we have not wanted to do. and senator rockefeller, after ksm was caught in may of 2003 said we may have to turn him over to a third country to be tortured to stop this catastrophic attack. where were their moral compasss pointing at this particular time? to look at the moral landscape now and make decisions about what the moral compass should have been back then when the moral landscape is different is inappropriate. and the reason for that is that moral conflicts do not occur independently. they do not occur one at a time. let me finish this one point. the balan