she had found cte in 19 of them. that time that a brain arrived that would dramatically raise the stakes. >> owen thomas to me was a critical case. here we have a 21-year-old who was a hard-hitting lineman from the age of nine on. >> and then, seemingly out of nowhere, he decided to take his own life. never been diagnosed with a concussion, never had a problem in the world. >> narrator: owen thomas had hanged himself in his off-campus apartment. chris nowinski secured his brain for dr. mckee. without any history of diagnosed concussions, it seemed unlikely he had cte. >> i was fully prepared to see nothing. i remember late at night looking at the brain and thinking, "just going to knock this one off." and it just floored me. i just couldn't believe what i was seeing. >> narrator: such an advanced case of cte had never been found in such a young person. >> in, like, 20 spots in his frontal lobe. he's 21. he's so young. that changes the game to me. >> wrapped up and brought down by owen thomas. >> narrator: because he'

cte in this brain too.rmer steelers who had gone crazy about the same time. >> when i saw terry long's case... i became more convinced that this was not just an anomaly, a statistical anomaly. >> narrator: omalu submitted another paper to neurosurgery, this one about terry long. >> that caused the mtbi committee to say, "this is preposterous. this is not good science. this is still not something that we're buying into." >> if you read, pellman made statements like what i practice is not medicine, it's not science. they insinuated i was not practicing medicine, i was practicing voodoo. voodoo. (thunder rumbling) >> narrator: the nfl would not publicly sit down with dr. omalu, but one night in a private meeting, he brought his cte slides and finally met face-to-face with one of the nfl's doctors. >> and the nfl doctor at some point said to me, "bennet, do you know the implications of what you are doing?" i looked. he was on my left. i said, "yeah, i think i do." he said, "no, you don't." (laughing) so we cont

you had 10% cte, 10% with als and 10% with dementia. you are talking -- if you made the award of 4 million a player, all that money is gone. what happens to the other 70% of the players? the general population. what happens to them? and of that general population, how many were fully diagnosed. how many fully went to the doctors and figure out what is going on. the number is more like 4 billion, arguments sake. but who am i? >> and this just the beginning of it. and i'm glad you are doing well. i hope you keep on doing well and certainly hope they figure out something to take care of all the guys that need being taken care of and how to make sure it doesn't happen in the future. leonard marshall, three time pro berle, it is great to meet you and great to have you on the show. >> brad has sold millions of books including 10 "new york times" best severals, including political thrillers. he has embarked on what he says could be the most important peace of writing. children's books. hayed a chance to catch up with him. joining me is best se

he was diagnosed with chronic cte. and it's great to have you here. >> it's kind of a crazy time. >> yes, it is a crazy time. this doesn't mean that the settlement is off. the judge said that she wants more financial details from both sides. do you think a better deal is going to be worked out? what was your reaction today? >> well, my first, i'll do it chronologic leaf. i think that a better deal needs to be struck between the players and the national football league. i think it's one thing to have an award, and a significant award, but it's something else to have a significant award that will take care of a major class in the population. it's a number of guys and families that have been doing it enough over the lifespan of some of these careers, and i think there's families like the webster family. and the long family from the steelers, the durison family, and the seau family. i can just keep naming numbers, and they are suffering in the process, and what you just read, it speaks volumes. ten percent of the players,

that the family of belcher had his body exhumed so his brain could be examined for this condition, cteically how it has to work. the person has to die first. is that essentially it? >> yeah. you know, as things stand now, that is how it is. you have to specifically identify an accumulation of a particular protein, it's called tal protein, you have to see evidence of that protein, not only that it exists but also that it exists in particular areas of the brain. that is how it's diagnosed now. there has been some news lately that you may have heard about trying to create these tests that can do the same sort of thing in the living. they do find or at least identify proteins in the brain but they're not really specific enough yet to diagnose cte or chronic traumatic encephalopathy. so as tough as it is to talk about, autopsy is the only sure-fire way to diagnose things right now. >> we know there's a settlement out there for the players, a large one at that, but you are concerned and you have been reporting on this for some time now, that it's your belief and the belief of many others tha

if he's got the disease cte that will make a clear correlation. >> cte by the way?umed have had this syndrome. it's an accumulation of protein in the brain that causes impulse control as well as lack of clarity of thought. also, other problems with memory and being able to formulate your thinking, which is a common characteristic among the players we represent. >> you're suing on behalf of former chief players. why are they not covered under this $765 million tentative agreement that was reached back in august. >> that's a very good question. as it was announced, only players with dementia or severe impairment of their cognitive abilities are covered. so these players would receive no benefits based upon the publicized settlement that was announced. all they will receive is medical monitoring, which they get under their health insurance anyway. but they would be giving up all their rights. what we're seeking is fairness here in regard to players who are less severely injured than having dementia and chronic brain injuries, but are suffering from some effects to be c

, the payouts will be small for the people having this and in our group, 52 of first 54 players had cteu are part of that lawsuit. can you tell us what kind of medical issues you and your teammates have experienced? >> well, i was going through tremendous pains in my head, loss of memory. and just an overall, you know, i just didn't want to do anything. i can see now why some of my former teammates committed suicide. i was at the brink n.i.c.e. the pain was so bad that you don't know where to turn. >> how many concussions did you have while playing? >> i think there was three to five of them that were documented. i don't really know the exact number. >> well, chris, you've helped build a brain bank as it's called as former athletes and players donate their brains for research about cte. what have you discovered so far? >> well, this disease was basically ignored by the medical community. since it was first named punch drunk in 1928 and the brain bank with 190 brains of former athletes and diagnosed more cases of this disease than the rest of the world combined and started a research inf

. >> cte, which is the illness that is at the heart of this problem, can't be diagnosed until peopleeady dead. so no one knows how many people are affected, and it's -- so you can understand why the judge said this much isn't enough, but how much is? >> one of the reasons i did not get involved originally, is because i've taken care of myself. i never felt any team i played for ever put me in harm's way. i always was taken care of. i felt that doctors watched out for me. i think i had four diagnosed concussions in the nfl. i never took any drugs to put myself back out on the field or anything like that. so there's a lot of other things going on behind the scenes. but i will say this, when i think about some of the players, the john mackeys of the world that basically fell into dmen cha and had nowhere to turn, that's a disgrace. >> one of the reasons they wanted a settlement now, you could get money right away, to the extent this extends with no settlement, people in need, players in need, ex-players are not getting help. >> why can't we put $250 million in a fund, we know we'll have

was it the cte that led to mr.aging in the act of killing his girlfriend and then turning the gun on himself. >> the issue of concussions has been something we've been talking about for a long time. perhaps if nothing else, this helps to create a safer environment maybe in the long run. >> that's always a very good issue, because there's always policy reasons behind lawsuits as well. it's not about money but it's about protecting the next person. you're hard pressed to know, if they do find, they're exhuming the body, they'll do the study and say, remember, he shot himself in the head. was the brain properly preserved? did anything cause injuries, maybe the nfl takes appropriate measures, more so than they're doing now to protect their players. >> thank you. >> pleasure and privilege. >>> must see moment. we've been talking about some of the woes u.p.s. has been having. a few hospital workers got quite the show when a wild turkey stalked a ups driver. it was fedex. my bad. that's fedex. the driver tried to get away

only controls just 3% of the chinese smartphone market trailing competitors with names like samsung, ctebove apple. will this deal make apple number one in the future? or at least number two or three? director of senior analysis. and mashable senior tech analysts. what does this do for them? at some point you have to figure it will juice orders. is that enough to really help? >> there are two ways you have to look at this. it is the world's largest carrier. 750 million subscribers. you get 10% of that, even a smaller slice of it will still be a big number for apple. but the concern is you have to temper expectations because yes, you will get a nice cell into the march quarter, but apple will sell 73 million apple, cell phones. this number is relatively small for the total number of iphones being sold worldwide. liz: people don't have as much money as some americans do. if we look at the prices of what an apple iphone 5 would cost, you look at what it will cost going through china mobile, with $800 for the service, cut back to the u.s. and it is way less than that. 650 some of that of cou

those who dies and cte is found in his brain, $4 million. $3 million available for former players withdementia, but a diagnoses with any of these conditions must be made before the age of 45 in order for a player to receive the maximum amount. only a handful of players will qualify. the older the player, the less money he or his family receives. joining us from tampa, florida, ted corliss, what does this mean for those who accept the terms, and those who opted out of the lawsuit? >> yesterday, the representatives of the nfl, as well as 18,000 players filed a motion with the court to approve a settlement that had been entered into last august, regarding a payment of $765 million. the way it's going to be broken up, $765 million will be available for compensation for players that suffered particular injuries or fall into the grid system that you mentioned. the rest of it will go to research on individual players who are asymptomatic, and some of the money going to educate people in some of the problems with particular equipment. >> and there are attorney fees involved and all of the test

. >> no one knows whether jovan belcher was suffering from this specific brain tom a known as cte, but asking questions about. our legal guys are back, avery freedman in cleveland, richard herman in honolulu. richard, i'll begin with you. this is a case difficult to prove, why? >> it is extremely difficult to prove, fred. the nfl thought they settled everything in the federal class action. $765 million. all of a sudden some of the players now are suing the teams, not the nfl, the teams. so right now, kansas city chiefs have about 12 lawsuits pending against them, one of them is jovan belcher's. they have to prove causation, fred, have to prove the chiefs were responsible for causing a condition which we don't even know if ever existed in him, and we have no medical diagnosis of concussion syndrome at all in his four year career. look, football is not like playing poker, it is a violent physical game, and people assume a certain risk when you suit up to play and make millions of dollars in the nfl. >> that's the issue. >> every player plays injured. >> sounds like the family is trying t

if you could just show that cte was present, this settlement will pay you those millions of dollars. don't have to show that there was a connection from football. which in a sense is a relief to the players and the family. but also it's what the nfl wanted. because they kind of don't want to have anyone to prove that there was a definitive connection. >> so the retired players don't have to take this. they can take their chances. >> right. so part of the settlement is that they're allowed to opt out. and then there is a judge, and what she has to do is she has to decide if she is going to certify the settlement and allow it to go forward. but if a number of players opt out, she might say there are too many players that are against this. and you guys have to go back to the drawing board. and there has been some rumblings. players aren't very happy. there are two big reasons. one, they say the nfl is a $10 billion industry and this is a settlement worth less than a billion dollars, you know, 900 million if you include the attorneys fees. the players themselves will be getting around, y

of concussions causing serious brain injuries ranging from parkinson's disease to something called cte876 million total. of that 675 million go to the players and families. 75 million for medical tests. $10 million for research fund to look into concussion injuries. 4 million for injuries. and then to the lawyers. what they allege in this lawsuit, which is multi-district litigation, meaning various districts in the federal court, is an astounding and horrible array of acts allegedly committed by the nfl that they knew of the risks for many years with regard to concussions and covered those risks up. >> the nfl was caught red handed? >> that's ha they say. but in a settlement, those things go away. people are paid a resolution, a fair compensation, whether they agree to it in this particular case, and discovery doesn't go forward. so any documents that the nfl had in their possession will not become public in this particular case. >> so how much are players going to wind up getting? >> it's interesting. it's a sliding scale. it depends how long they played professional football, what ag