i think with what we did with ctia america we tried to bring people together about what we could do to create jobs. there are other examples where private foundations create employment directly in partnership with public and private groups and in san diego now is the center of activity the largest number of nobel prize-winning scientist from any country university of california san diego, all of these other things but they have other foundations investing and they all work together on a common plan. that works in the modern world. cooperation works in real life conflicts works in politics and news conferences. it does. i am as guilty as the next person i have three cheap thrills for every one serious. >> adam of that is breeding conflict exactly. [laughter] that you get the idea we need the ngos. the robin hood foundation funds both kinds the harlem children zone does that kind of work so there is difference is there is an important tool for the ngo because they take a lot of heat off of businesses to have to turn a profit and take the heat off of government who want to try certain thi

i think with what we did with ctia america we tried to bring people together about what we could do to create jobs. there are other examples where private foundations create employment directly in partnership with public and private groups and in san diego now is the center of activity the largest number of nobel prize-winning scientist from any country university of california san diego, all of these other things but they have other foundations investing and they all work together on a common plan. that works in the modern world. cooperation works in real life conflicts works in politics and news conferences. it does. i am as guilty as the next person i have three cheap thrills for every one serious. >> adam of that is breeding conflict exactly. [laughter] that you get the idea we need the ngos. the robin hood foundation funds both kinds the harlem children zone does that kind of work so there is difference is there is an important tool for the ngo because they take a lot of heat off of businesses to have to turn a profit and take the heat off of government who want to try certain thi