culbertson in december. so, within that time, i met her maybe once a month since then. >> see this lady? fear her. >> and how you pleaded on your disrespect? >> not guilty. >> so, what are you saying, you didn't have your arm around her at all? >> no. >> okay. >> well, yes, i did. not at the time that all this -- in the beginning i did. then i moved over a seat so there was an empty chair on each side of me. so nothing could be said. >> the officer who witnessed the scene was called to testify. >> can you hear me? >> yes, ma'am. >> i'm here in culbertson's disciplinary concerning disrespect that was written up when they was in the chapel. >> yes, ma'am. >> can you give me some information on it? >> i was down in the chapel and i was sitting on the other side of the church. the lady was up preaching or whatever, talking or doing whatever she does, and she pointed them out, saying that she's not going to do this in church. i didn't see what they were actually doing, but i did see that her arm was extended arou