the 1970s and 1980s, a revisionist approach occurred and the harbingers of that approach was bruce culpings or ins of the korean war and he looked at the korean war as a civil war, that it was not a product of the cold war per se but that the real reason for the war was civil origins, and that kim il-sung himself decided to invade the south on his own accord, to achieve unification. and then, of course, later, at the end of the cold war, we had all this new documentation, documents from the former soviet archives as well as from china, and it became very clear that kim il-sung was in fact behind the korean war, but it was a little bit more complicated because although it's true that stalin gave the green light to kim il-sung, it was kim il-sung's idea. it was the -- the origin was civil. he really wanted to unify the south and that is why he asked stalin for support and that was -- and so it's both international and civil in that sense. there's no -- it's not a clearcut -- >> host: really kind of weaves the -- >> guest: what my book does, which is different than the literature on the korean