i'm curious your impression of the old cumiskey and the monstrosity of the new cumiskey? >> i agree with you. >> horrible. >> it is the last of the concrete donuts. it opened one year before camden yards and baltimore changed everything. it was out of date the minute it opened. and it's the a sort of sad story. i gather, though i haven't visited in a while, they did some changes that people say made it a little bit better. i think people say it made it a little less awful. the best comment was from a perspective writer, another architectural writer who loves baseball who calculated that the front row of the upper deck at the new cumiskey park is further from the field than the last row in the old upper deck of the old one. so much of baseball is about intimacy and how can you maneuver things so that the greatest number of people are the closest to the field and the most connected to field which is another important thing in camden yard and baltimore did there. answer were circles, this abstract shape of a big circle, pause you could put a diamond in it, you could put a fo