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and congressman elijah cummings, former chair of the black caucus, and analysis from greg ip, an economic editor of "the economist," and chrystia freeland, editor of thomson reuters digital. i am candy crowley, and this is state of the union. >>> what a difference a year makes, or not so much. last year at this time, president obama was vacationing on martha's vineyard, and that's where he is today. last year he said -- >> a year and a half ago the economy was shrinking rapidly, and the economy is now growing. >> this year he is saying -- >> america is going to come back from this recession stronger than before. that i am convinced of. >> unemployment was above 9% in august of 2010, and a year later it still is. compared to last summer, fewer americans approve of the president's handling of economy, and more say the economy is getting worse. joining me from michigan, senior obama campaign strategist david axelrod. thank you for being here. i want to ask you first -- >> sure, candy. >> the president is going to have the new jobs plan and a stimulus that is coming up in september, he's goin

elijah cummings thank you so much. good to see you today from baltimore. >> from your home district. >> thank you very much. and we'll be back after these messages. you're watching "andrea mitchell reports" and our continuing live coverage of the decisions on the debt ceiling compromise approved today pending for the signature of the president. we'll be back in a moment. ♪ let me entertain you ♪ let me make you smile ♪ let me do a few tricks ♪ some old and then some new tricks ♪ ♪ i'm very versatile ♪ so let me entertain you ♪ and we'll have a real good time ♪ [ male announcer ] with beats audio and flash, you can experience richer music and download movies straight to the new hp touchpad with webos. >>> lawmakers are headed back to their districts after passing the $2.5 trillion in debt reduction in law. even with that deal, the frat debit isn't going away. it's expected to rise between $7.7 and $8. trillion over the next decade. are laims taking the problem seriously enough? we have the president of the committee for

thank you. >> congressman cummings? >> you think that, you know, when you look at the rate of, say, loss of government jobs, how is that when you look at that as a portion of all jobs lost, is it trending pretty much the same over, say, the last year or so? in other words, the percentage. you follow my question? in other words, if you lose 50,000 jobs and 10,000 of them are government, is that 20% pretty much the norm for the last, say, several months or year? >> yeah, but for example, over the last two years, we've grown about 700,000 jobs, but we've lost about half a million government jobs, so the job growth would have been not double, but it would have been close to double what it has been without the loss of government jobs. >> i also heard one of john mccain, the first people who say he was john mccain's advisor, now john mccain, senator mccain has made it clear he was one of his advisors during the campaign. so one of his advisors, mr. zandy, i also heard his comments this morning, and one of the things he says i

you are saying -- >> i was at the last cummings. -- laskco meetings. that was part of the original discussion. what was the rationale to get away from that? >> it was never a realistic goal. inherently impossible to buy green power that is more expensive and deliver it cheaper. if you -- it's the green power was cheaper, it would have purchased it. the problem is they would like green power cheaper. that was never the case. we love the seller on the rooftop but it costs 23.5 cents to produce it. we're able to sell power here at 11 cents. we cannot buy at unless you want to go ahead and subsidize that. that is not the way it will be long term. we will start to own our own infrastructure as the world changes. there will be a difference and the green power will be reduced in price. green power is more expensive. >> shell oil is coming to the rescue? >> they will by wind. -- buy wind, the chepaeapest is wind. even with that, it is still more expensive than your basic what they call brown power which is the majority of what is produced and should be by pg&e

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. >> agriculture i absolutely love right now, for my retirement fund so my employees, cummings enginesstock, love a lot. cs industries i like and that was downgraded and still went up and listen. >> neil: why, why those guys? >> it's a-- you have global tentacles, and i'm betting on the rest of the world, i hate to say it. >> neil: the rest of the world kind of looks iffy. >> the western empires look iffy. you know, portugal is now a suburban of brazil, but it used to own brazil. you know, so the tables have turned, but if you look right now, i don't think anywhere, anytime in history have this many emerging countries really been galloping this hard and want what we have and i've got to tell you it's not just what they're growing and how they're growing. look at top ten, top five countries where their 15-year-old kedds are on education, china, number one. south korea is right there. america 17 in reading and our high score and lower in reading and math. and lower countries greece, portugal, spain. a reason for that that goes so deep, it's not just even about economic policy, it's about

i would like to introduce jonne couplings and works -- cummings. there is a deteriorating situation all of our staff live without their families and it's a super team and it is a team effort. >> thank you as well on our behalf. >> senator, with respect to the violence, it's getting worse. the syrian government's constant brutality, its refusal to allow peaceful marches. is insistence on widespread arrest campaigns and atrocious portrait of the reports that you read about the detention conditions are just ghastly and fostering more violence. we saw that in the third largest city two weeks ago and this weekend, too. i visited a city on a government-response order trip in june and i wandered away from the crowd and it's clear what happened. there was a peaceful protest on a friday. syrian security forces shot some of the protestors. at the funeral on saturday, the next day, the people got quite emotional because they had lost loved ones and they then attacked and killed a lot of syrian security people. that paradigm, that cycle is repeated over and ov

. >> reporter: we talked to veronica cummings at the university of california's d.c.pe. >> if you watch any type of national news you would think that the washington, d.c., is in a rubble of buildings. >> being an intern from california, we both automatically got unconcerned. >> reporter: being from contracosta, they knew what to do. others did the exact wrong thing. >> they were running outside trying to evacuate the building. >> californians from the second grade on learned to drop, cover and hold on. running outside is the wrong thing to do. "i watched some of the videos of people reacting and sorry to say, they were pretty darn funny" wrote rob chapman. even snooky of "jersey shore" tweeted "2012 is near, i knew it, i hope everyone's okay" referencing the prediction of the world's end. mike sugarman, cbs 5. >>> the quake wasn't all serious business back here on the east coast. for one it made the late night comics' job a whole lot easier especially for david letterman. >> they traced the epicenter of the earthquake to governor chris christie's aerobics class and n

hall, i'd look for to your testimony. >> congressman cummings? is good to be with you again, commissioner paul. i want to thank you for your service. since 1974, i am sure you have given your blood, sweat, and years to support our nation. at a time when so many of our public employees are being called everything, i pause here to thank you for what you have given. i thank you for the lives you touch. i say thank you for a grateful congress. i also want to take a moment -- let's talk about this. today's report indicates that in july we created 117,000 jobs and the unemployment rate dropped to 9.1%. obviously we have a long way together to resolve our economic challenges and to ensure that everyone who wants to work can work. last week we learned that the economy grew just 0.4% in the first three months of this year and only 1.3% in the second quarter. in june, american consumers decreased their spending. additionally, the already battered housing market, which continues to be a severe drag on the economy, took another hit in june as existing home s

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robert couch is a counsel at the farm of bradley, aren't, bull, cummings, l.l.p., and the former general consul at h.u.d. and finally we have professor peter swarr who is appearing before the committee via tell conference. he is a professor of law at the ohio state university and also a senior fellow at the center for american progress. welcome, all of you here today, and thank you for your time. mr. hopkins, you may proceed. >> thank you, chairman johnson, senator corker, members of the committee, i am jack hopkins, president and c.e.o. of core trust bank, a $660 million asset bank in south dakota. as a third generation community banker, i am pleased to represent icba's nearly 5,000 members as this important hearing. as this committee considers the development of national mortgage servicing standards, i have an important point to make. community banks are successfully servicing their portfolios and don't have the widespread servicing problems reported in the press. i urge you to ensure any effort to create national standards does not added regulatory burden of community banks, we must p

help me during these few days of meetings i had in washington so i would like to introduce joann cummings. joann works on economic and political issues in damascus. she lives in damascus without her husband who was evacuated because of the deteriorating security situation of our american staff lived there without their families, and it is a really super team and it is a team effort. >> thank you as well. >> cementer, with respect to the violence getting worse, the syrian government's constant brutality, its refusal to allow peaceful merchants, its insistence on widespread unrest campaigns and it's atrocious torture the reports you read about the detention conditions are just ghastly, they are in turn foster and more violence. we saw that in the homes two weeks ago. we are seeing it this weekend, too, i think, but i want to be clear. i visited on a government sponsored trip in june. i heard what they said and i wandered away from the crowd and talked to some other people and it was clear what happened up there. there was a peaceful protest on friday, the syrian security forces shot some of

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robert cummings says faithful fans shouldn't be punished for what bad fans do. >> you crackdown on on them, us being cool and watching our p's and q's we should leave everybody else alone. >> the security opened the parking lot gates three hours later helps reduce time to drink. they think he its conspiracy. >> i think it's that and us to go in and spend our money. >> jeffrey miller went to candlestick to check out the measures and show fans who might think about twice coming to an n.f.l. game. what happened last week won't be permitted to happen again. >> fans will see that hopefully that was an aberration. >> as to whether the raiders will play the niners again in a pre-season game. >> it's not a decision that needs to be made at the moment. >> one change, san francisco police will be checking d.u.i. checkpoints like what is going on behind me on every game in the future. >>> san francisco police are preparing for another bart protest tomorrow. demonstrators angry over a fatal shooting by bart police have recently stormed downtown san francisco bart stations during the evening rush

cumming that with ten-year deficit control. >> greg ip from "the economist." thank you very much. >>> and state and local governments grappling with the real life fallout from all of these numbers. joining us now governor haley barbour of mississippi. great to see you. thanks so much for joining us. we saw those pictures, those gripping pictures from atlanta, a line snaking around the building in sweltering heat in high heels and their sunday best clothes waiting for a job. i know in mississippi you've got real problems with child poverty, for instance, what are you seeing at home and how is this driving the political conversation? >> well, andrea, i've never seen a bigger disconnect between wall street and main street. the stock market and the real economy. i hear people talking about, you know, why is the -- why are stocks falling, why is there so much volatility? on main street they wonder why did stocks go up over the last two years. on main street while the recession has for a year and a half or so quit getting worse, it has not gotten appreciably better.

. >> reporter: we talked to veronica cummings vie skype. >> if you watched national news news, you would think it was the end of the world. >> 5.9 magnitude earthquake. >> reporter: people went wall to wall. this girl from contra costa knew what to do. others did the wrong thing. >> could hear people yelling, running around. they were running outside trying to evacuate the buildings. >> reporter: californians from the second grade on learn to drop, cover and hold on. running outside is the worst thing you can do! >> i watched some of the videos of people reacting and sorry to say they were pretty darn funny one person wrote. evening snooki of jersey shore fame got in on the action tweeting, 2012 is near i knew it i hope everyone is okay referencing the mayan prediction of the world's end. >> oy. >> reporter: couple of things. first of all, i know snooki is smelled with an i not y. my mistake. kerry bastida, that's ken's daughter. and they are expecting a hurricane back in the east coast in washington and curia is getting out there was saturday back to earthquake country. and i have to sa

gene cummings is deputy editor for bloomberg. that's not a bad bumper sticker, nobody's perfect. >> nobody's perfect. it's actually a pretty good answer that he's finally developed. it took him a long time to get the wording to where he was comfortable. i think it's fair enough in that it will appeal to people who believe states should do their own thing, whatever works for them. it clearly sends a signal that he wouldn't use it on another state that didn't want it. >> how vulnerable is mitt romney to rick perry? a lot of people say rick perry from texas is not going to play well in new hampshire. we're going to talk to john sununu about that who knows new hampshire better than any of us. what about rick per reice appeal in terms of tea party support and budgetary concerns and the texas record on jobs that he claims? >> i think we have yet to see exactly what will be the impact of rick perry. he got off to a rough start. they're trying to straighten the ship out now. they've done a pretty good job of doing that. i do think he has

the honorable elijah cummings. a teenager when dr.taken the promise of democracy to heart by serving his nation in the house of representatives. and even becoming the first african-american in maryland history to be named speaker protemperature. -- speaker pro tempore. co-founder of the first -- and the first vice president amayor tuss of the united farm workers of america will speak to us about justice. and concluding the four will be ambassador constance morella. while being part of the house of representatives, connie introduced legislation in 1996 to -- alpha phi alpha, to establish the memorial. after two years of intense work, the alphas and morella were successful in their efforts and the bill was signed by president clinton in 1998. ambassador morella will rightly speak on hope. have a wonderful afternoon. [applause] >> ladies and gentlemen, please welcome ms. clayton. -- xernona clayton. >> thank you. good afternoon. i am speechless about the way i feel about this dinner of celebration. i'm just sad that it couldn't continue

so he plowed a portion of the profits from his family's cummings engine company into enlisting greathitects to design many of the city's public buildings. an elementary school by harry weiss who went on to design washington d.c.'s monumental subway system. city hall by skidmore, owens, and barrel, builders of what is now known as one world trade center. and this library, perhaps best known for his work the pyramid in paris. businesses and houses of worship hopped on the modern bandwagon as well where columbus's most distinctive landmarks is north christian church. you might also recognize the same architect's hand work in the st. louis gateway arch and the tulip chair on the bridge to the starship enterprise. the chairs also look very much at home in the house that he designed for the miller family in 1953. will miller grew up here, says his father's philosophy is visible all across columbus. >> he felt that excellence ought to be pursued in everything you do. so if you were going to make a diesel engine, it should be the best possible diesel engine. if you're going to be part of the

congressman cummings. >> thank you very much. i was listening to what you were saying.regard to people in labour market coming back in. let's talk about those who are starting out. a few months ago, millions of our young people graduated from high school and college and while many of them are pursuing higher education and we have had testimony before this committee in the past where young people -- we were told that young people, many of them were basically kind of spending going into the job market and depending upon their parents, staying in school to get master's degrees and graduate degrees. what kind of pressure does the influx of job seekers place on the labour market and what are the employment prospects for recent high school or college graduates? >> i think our data supports what you said, that the new entrants into the labour market are having a difficult time finding work. if you look at something like the employment to population ratio and break it out by age range, members of the population that are working age that are 25 and below, the employment populati

so i'd like to introduce joann cummings who's wearing read. joann works on economic and political issues in damascus. she lives in damascus without her husband, who was evacuated because of the deteriorating security situation all of our american staff live without their families. and it's a really super team. and it is a team effort. >> thank you as well. on our behalf. >> senator, with respect to the violence, it's getting worse. the syrian's government constant brutality, its refusal to allow peaceful marches, its insistence on widespread arrest campaigns and its atrocious torture -- the reports you read about, the detention conditions are just ghastly, they are in turn fostering more violence. we saw the in the third largest country two weeks ago and we're seeing it in this country, too, i think. i want to be clear, i visited a government sponsored trip in june. i heard what they said and i wandered away from the crowd and talked to some other people. it's very clear what happened up

congressman cummings. >> thank you very much. i was listening to what you were saying. theh regard to people in labour market coming back in. let's talk about those who are starting out. a few months ago, millions of our young people graduated from high school and college and while many of them are pursuing higher education and we have had testimony before this committee in the past where young people -- we were told that young people, many of them were basically kind of spending going into the job market and depending upon their parents, staying in school to get master's degrees and graduate degrees. what kind of pressure does the influx of job seekers place on the labour market and what are the employment prospects for recent high school or college graduates? >> i think our data supports what you said, that the new entrants into the labour market are having a difficult time finding work. if you look at something like the employment to population ratio and break it out by age range, members of the population that are working age that are 25 and below, the employment po

. >> my name is lee cummings from rio, brazil.r bills on time, pay off the balances and make sure once you do pay off those bills and pay your balances, don't close the credit cards because the more credit cards that you have and you maintain as open, the better off your credit looks because people are looking at how much credit does this person have available when they look at credit. >> even though it feels counter intuitive. lastly from a college student wondering how to make sure she can save enough money while in school which saving is aa good thing in itself. >> i'm katie finnegan from san francisco, california. my question is what is your number one money saving tip for college students? >> don't take on credit. don't swipe the credit card. what happens with college students is oftentimes they'll swipe the credit card everywhere they go and they come out of school, they have their college loan debt but then they have credit card debt and it's so high interest rate it piles on and dpleeepletes the savings. >> it's hard. when

. -- to the stage the honorable elijah cummings. >> good afternoon, everyone.han that. good afternoon, everyone. if it is my honor to be here as a member of the congressional black caucus. and on behalf of our entire black caucus, we thank you. first of all, i want to say to the organizers of all that has happened this weekend, sometimes god has another plan. i know that it gets discouraging when you lay out plans, but sometimes got will create a situation that will make it even better the next time around. i am looking forward to the celebration. and also all of these beautiful women. i am so glad i have a black man in america. when i see all of these wonderful african american women, i think about all that you have done. i lay express my love for it. [inaudible] i think my own mother, she raised her children to do great things. i think about a woman in my neighborhood that allowed us to integrate the swimming pool when i was 7 years old. and to think about the delicate in the house of delegates that gave me my first opportunity to enter the house of delegates

representatives -- elijah cummings, a key player in the house of representatives. i work with dutch ruppersberger, sarbanes. the baltimore delegation, i don't want to leave anyone out. in the washington area, chris van hollen, who is also on the super committee, one of the 12. steny hoyer, the no. 2 democrat in ads of representatives, a person who was known not only for his strong leadership in the democratic party, but his ability to work across party lines, one of the best bridge builders we have in the house of representatives. , one of thes one o other members, representing prince george's and montgomery county. roscoe bartlett, a longtime member of the house from the western part of the state, one of the bride is the science-we have in the house of representatives -- one of the brightest science mines we have in the house of representatives, has been a strong spokesperson for energy and environmental policies in that house from the republican side. and then andy harris, newest member of our delegation, lives in baltimore county but represents the shore in anne

the three congressmen from the baltimore region, elijah cummings a key player in the house of representativesi am close with the ranking democrat on the intelligence committee and the john sarbanes, one of the leaders on the environmental and health issues. the baltimore delegation, i do not want to beat anyone out. from the washington area, not only the ranking democrat on the budget committee, he is on the super committee. he is one of the 12th. steny hoyer, the number 2 democrat, the person that is known not only for his strong leadership in the democratic party but his ability to work across party lines. one of the best bridge builders we have and the house. don edwards, one of the younger members who works in prince george's county. -- donna edwards. roscoe bartlett. one of the brightest science mines in the house of representatives. he brings that sensitivity to the congress and has been a strong spokesperson on energy and environmental policy in the house from the republican side. and then andy harris, who is the newest member of our delegation. he lives in baltimore county but represe

mary cummings, albany, new york. pretty town. 100 years old today. very, very social person. thank you very much. >>> when we come back up on the stage, behind me, grammy winners maroon 5 live in concert. but first, this is "today" on nbc. buying a new home is an investment. buying a new energy efficient home is an investment that can save you thousands of dollars over the life of your home. >> narrator: the toyota concert series on "today" brought to you by toyota. >>> and now, singing one of their original hits "harder to breathe," ladies and gentlemen, maroon 5! ♪ ♪ when it gets cold outside and you got nobody to love ♪ ♪ you'll understand what i mean when i say there's no way we're gonna give up ♪ ♪ and like a little girl cries in the face of a monster that lives in her dreams ♪ ♪ is there anyone out there because it's getting harder and harder to breathe ♪ ♪ what you are doing is screwing things up inside my head ♪ ♪ you should know better you never listened to a word i said ♪ ♪ clutching your pillow and wrighting in a naked sweat ♪ ♪ hoping somebody some day will do you

this year, chairman issa and cummings, as well as last year's co-sponsors in the house have all pledgedmove the bill. we have been working with their staff so that we can have a bill with strong bipartisan support introduced shortly in the house. we are hoping beebe forms will be at least as positive as the senate -- hoping the viet forms s will be ate reform least as positive as the senate bill. many whistleblowers are facing retaliation. taxpayers are waiting for the president and congress to deliver on all of this transparency and accountability. i urge you to become informed about the bill. staffers would be happy to speak with you further. i thank you for your interest in the topic of whistleblowing and i am looking forward to our discussion. >> christian? >> thank you for having me. i never intended to be a whistleblower. i am here as a private citizen, not on behalf of the border patrol. i am here to speak on behalf of the taxpayers and the amount of money and is being spent and our national security. a facility is being built for $8 million in a small station in washington. this

one person on my team interrupted her vacation, but i would like to introduce joann cummings who worked on economic and political issues in damascus. she is -- she was in damascus without her husband who was evacuated because of the deteriorating situation. it is a team effort. >> thank you as well on our behalf. >> senator, with respect to the violence getting worse, the syrian government's constant brutality, its refusal to allow a peaceful marches, its insistence on widespread arrests campaigns, and its atrocious and torture -- the reports that you read about are just ghastly. they are, in turn, fostering more violence. we saw that in the third largest city of the country two weeks ago. we are seeing it this weekend, t o o. but i want to be clear. i visited in june and heard what they said. i talked to other people. it is very clear what happened up there. there was a peaceful protest on friday. syrian security forces shot some of the protesters. during the funeral on saturday, the next day, the people got quite emotional because they have lost loved ones, and they then attacked and

from the university of chicago school of law cum laude., professor jost. >> thank you very much. and thank you, ranking member ellmers and congressman altmire and congressman kingston. the title of today's hearing is small business. if they like their coverage can they keep it? this is a variation of one of the commitments made by the affordable care act realized in section 1251 that if you like your plan, you can keep it. but notice, the aca's commitment is to individuals, not to employers. it is not if you are currently have insurance through your job, you're stuck with that insurance no matter how it changes. it is if you the employee or individual enrolle like your coverage, you can keep it. in fact, most privately insured americans do have insurance through their jobs and regulations adopted last summer by labor treasury and health and human services give employers considerable flexibility to change their plans without losing grandfather status. employers can change their formularies and provider networks and the planned administrator

cum laude from villanova university school of law where he was the editor of the villanova sports andntertainment law journal. thank you for being with us. >> thank you. so, i would suggest that the law has not had an opportunity to evaluate this. it has not weighed in quite yet. i think that liability surrounding technical volunteer communities is all over the place. i think it creates some interesting, what i will call exotic legal issues. first amendment issues, choice of law issues, jurisdiction issues, privacy issues but at the end of the day, i think the number one issue is not going to be exotic but the mundane. i think it is going to be state tort law. is going to be negligible from people who are injured from misinformation or by failure of the technical and volunteer community response with the failure of the emergency response community to respond to a call in social media. so, i think the question becomes, what duty does the technical and volunteer community owe to the general public when they are operating in their capacity as technical volunteers? and, generally speaking