cummings: -- sec. ross: is correct that that was before the census letter but it is also correct that i rejected the question mr. kovac wanted to ask. rep. cummings: you had nothing in your emails or phone calls with mr. kobach had nothing to do with your efforts to push the citizenship question? i have no control over what kris kobach or anyone else but it emails sent to me. as we evaluate the truth we often look to see whether the testimony is corroborated by documents. on their faces show the reason you have given to us for adding the citizenship question is a pretext. in 2017 your staff hand-delivered a secret memo and handwritten note about the citizenship question to the department of justice. did the secret memo or note described the real reason you wanted to add the citizenship question? sec. ross: i would like to correct the record. rep. cummings: please do. sec. ross: i don't believe there is anything in evidence that my staff delivered a message of that sort to the justice department. rep. c

house oversight chairman elijah cummings. trisha newbold, she has worked on democratic and republican administrations. >> she told investigators, 25 individuals had a wide range of disqualifying issues, concerning personal conduct, financial problems, drug use and criminal conduct. a source tells cnn both jared kushner and ivanka trump are on the list of 25. important to note the president is legally entitled to order a security clearance for anyone he wishes. chairman cummings comparing the clearance overrides to hillary clinton's use of a private e-mail server as secretary of state. >> if the violations are accurate, and i do think they are, as ms. newbold has told us, i think this is a million times worse. what you have here are people who literally have the top secrets of the world, and they have not been properly cleared. that should alarm each and every american. >> jared kushner responded last night on fox news. >> over the last two years that i have been here, i have been accused of all different types of things, and

cummings warned subpoenas could foal. house democrats are not waiting on bill barr to decide which parts of the mueller report he will make public. instead they are announcing a vote tomorrow to likely force the subpoena jerry nadler says he assumes the committee will issue osubpoenas. the president writes this morning -- needily strongly opposed the release of the starr report on bill clinton. no information would or could be legally released, about you with the know collusion writes, nothing will ever satisfy them. a few minutes ago, the president tweets -- there's no amount of testimony or document production that can satisfied jerry nadler or shifty adam schiff. in addition to the mueller report, democrats are also weighing possible subpoenas for documents from five former white house officials related to that investigation. that includes the former white house counsel don mcgahn, reince priebus and hope hicks. stephanie? >> and we do have to note, while the white house says they do not comment on security clearances,

chairman cummings plans to issue a subpoena this morning demanding an interview with carl kline, cummings is sending a subpoena even though kline's attorney says his client is willing to be interviewed voluntarily. >>> house judiciary committee jerry nadler is finalizing a subpoena for the full unredacted version. he's not saying whether the the subpoena will be issued before william barr releases a redacted report. today is the deadline democrats set for barr to dleeliver the fl report. according to the attorney general, those redactions include grand jury material, sensitive intelligence material, information from ongoing investigations and information that could damage the reputations of people not charged in the mueller probe. >>> breaking overnight, police in los angeles have named a suspect in the shooting death of rapper nipsey hussle. authorities say the gunman identified as eric holder cwas spotted in a 2016 white four door chevy cruz license plate number 7rjd742. >>> also overnight, a stampede at the rapper's memorial. at this point it's not clear what exactly sparked it. police

>> yeah, that's what elijah cummings told me last night. in his view, what's happening with the security clearances is a million times worse than what happened with hillary clinton and the e-mail controversy. in just a matter of moments, this committee behind me, the house oversight committee, does plan to discuss this, what cummings has threatened to do is subpoena at least one individual, carl klein, who is the head of, former head of personal security at the white house over questions about why he may have overridden concerns by this woman, who cummings called a whistleblower who raised concerns about a number of individuals, that they should not get security clearances only to later get security clearances. cummings called it systemic. it shows that the white house is not taking security seriously. but again, republicans simply do not agree with this, calling cummings' effort here reckless, so expect some fireworks at this vote that's going to take place momentarily. potentially subpoenas could be on the table in a matter of moments. >>

cummings, but what does admonishment?he privileges committee. people would understand it as a reprimand and in this case, it means in the parliamentary context that the actual resolution of the house is the admonishment. so, there is no requirement for in this case mr cummings to come to the house, it is not delivered to him orally in person, the resolution constitutes the admonishment and then that is notified to him and has indeed been notified to him by the clerk. i think you used the word feeble in your speech and it really is a bit of a slap on the wrist, isn't it? we have very limited powers in reality that we can use in the modern age. and i think that is a concern especially if it means that parliament is seen to be enfeebled. but those powers, that cell under big ben is still there, isn't it? it's certainly true that powers of fining or imprisonment are theoretically still available to parliament but in practise, we know that they would most certainly be subject to legal challenge if we try to apply them. but i t

>> i hardly recognized elijah cummings. he was my ranking member in the obama administration and we were lied to by eric holder. we had to hold him in contempt. elijah cummings never said by the way, we should impeach him when we discovered that he had lied to us, he had covered up information, he had obstructed us. the reality is i think the president's team headed by rudy giuliani said this very well. this is about searching for the thing that's going to stop the president from winning reelection. they couldn't undo the election. they're trying -- not to impeach him. i don't expect to see articles of impeachment. they're trying to get his tax records. his business records. they're trying to use the power of subpoena not to do oversight over some known misconduct but in fact to see if they can find something that they can use against him in the re-elect. >> charles: you mentioned your former colleague. i want to share the house oversight committee now chairman elijah cummings was on "face the nation" signaling his next mov

so what is the white house saying about this whistleblower complaint and the cummings subpoena? cnn's kaitlan collins is at the white house. kaitlan, what are you hearing right now? >> so far we've gotten nothing from the white house on this request and what this fight is going to look like and as manu just laid out eventually what this could end up with the white house counsel either being forced to accommodate the request from capitol hill or this is going to end up in a nasty lengthy court battle. we know, kate, in the past that the white house counsel has argued that he believes the president and the executive branch had the exclusive authority to either grant people security clearances or deny them. he does not think that congress has involved in this process in the way that they are trying and he has recalled these requests essentially intrusive in the past. it doesn't shed a lot of light on whether or not he is going to be willing to accommodate with these requests now that elijah cummings is in charge and is demanding these documents. now, we do know that in this letter

now, it seems to me that it would be legitimate for mr cummings to engage with the committee to talkre was clear frustration about the ability of mps to sanction witnesses who refused to give evidence to them. people often cite the ancient powers of the house to lock people up in a prison under big ben or lock people up here, and those powers do technically still exist, but would rightly be considered to be unenforceable. the house must therefore debate and decide what we want to do when witnesses decline to attend. there's a very real danger, given the nature of dominic cummings, and i don't think, incidentally, the way he's behaved towards the select committee is any different from the way he behaves generally, that he would actually regard an admonishment from the house of commons as a badge of honour. does he also agree that we need some form of alternative measure so that future witnesses will not think that an admonishment is the only thing they might have to face? the chair of the privileges committee, who found dominic cummings in contempt of parliament, agreed changes were n

cummings is not going to let this go. it is a point of concern, not just for democrats but generally speaking when you're talking about people who have the most access to the nation's most sensitive secrets. what are they potentially doing with them. there's been all kinds of questions raised and whether they have any sort of foreign sympathies for potential outsiders having leverage over them. these are the things that the security clearance review process is supposed to take into consideration. now, is the president's p prerogative to give clearances to whoever he wants to. this goes to the general point of about misuse of power by the white house and by the president himself. cummings will continue to drive home the point and comparison to clinton because the republicans turned back to looking at the clinton investigation and the e-mails are a recognizable thing that this is going to be a comparison and discussion point as long as they keep looking into this. >> thank you for joining us. >>> it is unclear if president

in the aftermath of that request, mazar said they'd only comply if cummings issued a subpoena.rump organization said the company should not comply. the latest development just moments ago in federal district court in the district of columbia, the trump organization sued to prevent that accounting firm in moving forward with the subpoena request saying that the subpoena in the view of the trump organization exceeds constitutional limits. one passage here, poppy, says because cummings subpoenaed threatens to expose the plaintiff's confidential information and lacks legitimate legislative purpose, the court has the right to declare it invalid. real ratcheting up in the fight between house democrats and the white house on a number of these requests, including over the president's finances. >> all right. it's significant. it's fascinating. i wonder if there is any precedent for this. we'll try to get our legal minds on that. >>> this morning to illinois and a new fwitwist in the investigan of this missing 5-year-old boy. police say they're now turning their focus to the residents th

and i know there has been some impatience out there that chairman cummings might allow for that delay the trump strategy here is clearly to run out the clock and delay everything as much as they can. why would you give them a delay? here's i think one little hint as to why chairman cummings might feel confident about just taking that delay. about just taking that and not worrying about it. it may be that he is just feeling very confident in his own side's prospects of prevailing in that lawsuit, which was filed by the president. in order to make their argument that congress has no right to subpoena these records from trump's accounting firm, one of the things the president's lawyers do is they make a sort of lengthy argument citing a supreme court case, killborne versus thompson from 1880, back to the 19th century. it seems like a very erudite thing to do. this goes all the way back to 1880s, the precedent here that is relevant. it should be noted that case was actually overturned in 1927. so it has not been followed for 90 years. that case, they missed the whole part where that was o

. >> elijah cummings on his latest escalation with the trump administration. then -- >> is he going to accept that in 2020? >> tom perez on the republican indifference to the mueller report. plus, the lawyer who argued the census case joins me live. joe biden's big announcement about his big announcement. and is donald trump about to get another primary opponent? >> people asked me to give this serious consideration. >> all in starts now. >>> good evening from new york in for chris hayes. democrat igic leaders are resisting calls to open impeachment after the mueller report presented strong evidence that the president committed obstruction of justice. in a long conference call last night, speaker naps and other house leaders urged members to stay the course and stick with the plan of investigating the president through the various committee probes already under way. that, democratic leaders say, is how they are going to hold donald trump accountable. while democrats are doing business as usual, the white house is going to war, fighting every effort at oversigh

elijah cummings said no to that.s that an objectionable request from the white house, to have an attorney there with him? >> that's the interesting question. that's what they'll have to sort out in the litigation. the white house is saying there might be privileges, how can we protect the privilege the democrats are saying that your guy will tell him not to answer any questions. so that's the push and pull. i think the judge will eventually decide that there are some privileges here. >>> let's talk about don mcgahn, the yew dishary wants him to testify. may 21st, they want a whole list of docs, and doug collins societies this -- instead of looking at materials, they demand additional materials that they no are subject to confidenceal privilege, and is he right? >> to do that they need the evident. they don't just knead mueller's report. they actually need witnesses, testimony, they knead documents and they're entitled to all of that. >> so legally there's no issue here? >> right. >> the question i guess becomes what

on tuesday, mps agreed to admonish dominic cummings the director of the vote leave campaign.iry by the culture committee into fake news. for some mps, abusive variety of sanctions ignoring parliament including summoning people to the bar of the house for talking to is gary connor reports. nowadays they are on the carpet. but here is captain kidd at a real bar for questioning about piracy at the turn of the 18th century. and this is the atheist mp charles bradlaugh in the 1880s. his campaign to take his seat without swearing in the event compulsory religious oath went to a spell in the cell of big ben's tower. most recently the journalist jothuno was summoned to the bar of the house in 1957 for an article criticising generous petrol allowances for mps at a time of fuel rationing. he apologised but defended his story. would you care to make a statement? i am happy that there has been such a satisfactory outcome. during the debate on what to do about dominic cummings, several mps questioned the options available to them. people often cite the ancient powers of the house to walk

. >> reporter: a memo from elijah cummings says tricia newbolt felt this is my last hope to bring integrity into the office. >> the things she has told us -- >> reporter: newbold told the committee about two senior white house officials still on the job, both drew objections on staff.

today to try to block that same that there was no legislative purpose in the request from elijah cummings. of the lawsuit saying that the democrat party with its newfound control of the u.s. house of representatives has declared an all-out political war against president donald j. trump, subpoenas are their weapon choice. the president's attorney stated in the lawsuit that the subpoena was based on testimony that michael cohen gave an president trump misstated his net worth when he was a private individual. the lawsuit also points out that michael cohen is a felon who has pleaded guilty to lying to congress. another quote from the lawsuit, it's goal is to expose the private financial information for the sake of exposure, talking about the subpoena with the hope that it will turn up something that the democrats can use as a political tool against the president now and in the 2020 election. the lawsuit names the accounting firm, not because it is suspected of doing anything wrong, but because in order for the court to enjoin it, it has to be named in the lawsuit, responding in the statement

a subpoena and what cummings is calling a friendly subpoena. so they plan to issue it in a matter of days and expect compliance. >> i remember when then citizen trump was trying to buy the buffalo bills. thank you very much for that report. president trump meanwhile has been on a whirlwind of flips and flops as he changes this story on various issues includie inin health care and immigration, sprinkling his accusations with false claims. let's go to abby phillip. what's the latest? >> well, wolf, president trump appears to be making a hard pivot to the policy issues that he believes will dominate the 2020 presidential election. but the problem is there have been several days of head spinning shifts in his rhetoric and it seems that president trump himself can't seem to settle on what his political strategy is. president trump trying to pivot to health care ahead of the 2020 elections. but struggling to get his stories straight. >> so woer going e're going to great health care plan and go and campaign on that plan. >> trump now claiming in a twe

you saw the frustration behind cummings. there is a reason for that.u listen to what he said, there are others like ms. newbold in the white house. this is something that cummings said yesterday during the hearing. he said, she's crying out. she's begging for us to do something. the way that we treat her is something that's going to be watched by other people in the white house, other would-be whistleblowers. i thought that was notable. secondly, this has been really lost, in that this has been a bipartisan concern in the last congress, willie, on security clearances. there were letters that were written, signed on by both republicans and democrats. the difference now is that the democrats actually have the power to do something about it. they have the power to subpoena. that is a step that was not taken when republicans were in control, even though they too were concerned about clearances, going back to rob porter, the assistant who was kicked out because they found out he had domestic violence accusations against him. what we're seeing now with this

democratic congressman elijah cummings, chairman.rsight committee is moving to subpoena the personnel security director at the white house during president trump's first two years in office. and at today's hearing they discounted the whistleblower's

, masars responded and said they would need a subpoena if they were going to respond to that, so cummings did issue and authorize that subpoena to them. so now in the next -- >> this is 141 years we have been doing this. i don't remember -- >> let's listen in to the president. >> for the last three years, we had an awfully good time. i have to thank our first lady. she worked so hard on this event, and without her, it would not be like it is. it's as beautiful as i have ever seen it. so melania, thank you very much. fantastic job. thank you, honey. i also want to thank the white house historical association for the incredible job they do. they work with the first lady and all of us on just making the white house and keeping the white house a special place. it is, to me, the most special place. there can't be anything like it. and we take it really very seriously, and it's in great shape. that i can tell you. it's in great shape. also, our incredible marine corps band. thank you very much. beautiful. wouldn't be the same without you. and a group of people that do a wonderful job. i love th

, elijah cummings as the chairman of the committee basically withheld this from the ranking member. that is against the committee rules. so they basically sign fees memorandums of understanding, secrecy so kind of like a pact between all of them to basically go after and target president trump. one of the things that they wanted to, u.s. l -- the accounting firm all in the private sector and they want ale documentation in all financial records, back to 2009. this is incredible. and they will have a huge fight on their hands. because once again, the investigation, robert mueller's investigation has been wrapped up. they found no conspiracy, no collusion with russia. we have seen it on the other side. as far as obstruction, no obstruction charges whatsoever. they are looking for something else, digging deeper but a huge fight on their hands. i know congressman georgia and others are very angry about this. and i don't think they will get any documentation in a time soon. >> sean: kimberly come after thursday, this is all they got. we already have from the mueller report, no collusion.

chairman cummings responding, "the president has a long history of trying to use baseless lawsuits tono valid legal basis to interfere with this duly authorized subpoena from congress." the suit asked the federal court in washington to keep chairman coming cummings from obtaining records from the accounting firm the president and his businesses use. jay sekulow, counsel to the present, sing this in a statement -- "will not allow congressional presidential harassment to go unanswered to." charlie? >> charlie: what's happening is the democrats are trying to assemble the greatest taxpayer-funded opposition research file on donald trump they possibly can. that's all this is. they were disappointed by the mueller report's of the star to reposition all of their strategies a couple months ago when people started to leave miller's team, started to signal they wouldn't have this bombshell. i have to go back to this -- for the last year and a half we have heard elijah cummings in nancy pelosi essay amazing things about bob mueller. that this mueller report with the end of the presidency, muelle

chairman cummings said his committee will subpoena the person personnel head at the white house today and that more subpoenas may follow. >> so, david ignatius, first of all what are your concerns about the fact that 25 recommendations were overruled by donald trump and his administration regarding security clearances that this oversight panel felt should not be handed out? >> joe, i think this is a classic example, if it's proven to be true, of executive overreach and manipulation of decisions. the process of granting security clearances is one of the most serious and sensitive things that the government does. anybody who has to go through the process knows just how detailed it can be. for there to be these cases that so troubled this career security official that she has decided to be a whistleblower, to come to congress to talk about it tells you the seriousness of it. in these cases, the allegation is that the normal review process led to questions or an outright refusal to grant a clearance that was overruled by the president and those closest to him. that is the kind of thing th

in china, we talked about with chairman cummings, i'm headed to china again in april. and frequent conversations with our u.s. ambassador to china as well as the chinese ambassador to the u.s., pushing them on class scheduling of fentanyl. mexico is certainly a challenge. and we're working hard through an ondcp -- of the north american drug dialogue. >> the gentleman's time has expired. >> thank you, mr. chairman. i want to thank the witnesses. and i also want to thank the ranking member for his efforts on this referred to, the support for patients and communications act -- communities act which we passed to address this issue and i want to recognize somebody i've worked closely with on the other side of the aisle. we've worked on this, particularly opioids. as the only pharmacist, i rch h respect him. we were able to get a number of amendments put into the statutes. those amendments require evidence-based metrics. mr. mcneill under that statute i understand the geo has recently begun its next audit of omdcp, is that correct? >> that is correct, yes. >> when did the au

cummings fired back this is a massive unprecedented and growing pattern of obstruction. cummings wanted to talk to gore about the proposed 2020 census question about citizenship. president trump today tied that question to immigration and border security tweeting the american people deserve to know who is in this country. said the fact the supreme court took up the citizenship question is a really big deal. at the opioid summit the president doubled down on immigration reform and border security. insisting that democrats just want to play politics. >> president trump: we could solve the entire problem i say 45 minutes, it could go a lot quicker than that. let's bring it down to 15 minutes. if the democrats would agree to do certain basic common sense things. >> we just heard today from hillary clinton on the issue of impeachment in an op-ed just published in the "washington post" she repeated what we had on "special report" last night cautioning democrats not to rush down the road to impeachment but in doing so, she evoked a specter of watergate saying then, as now, ther

mcneill. >>> chairman cummings. ranking member jordan and members of the committee. i am pleased to be here today to discuss gao's preliminary findings on the 2019 national drug control strategy. critical steps that ondcp still needs to take to address deficiencies that we have previously identified. these deficiencies need to be addressed so they can coordinate and oversee the efforts of the dozen-plus agencies combatting illicit drug use. this is a crisis that resulted in 70,000 deaths in 2017 alone. ondcp is required to do a number of things based on the 2006 statute and the recent support act. they're required to develop the strategy and it is also required to work with agencies to develop an annual drug budget. the 2006 statute with the strategy is based calls on ondcp it to, among, other things, identify annual measurable objectives with specific targets. describe a performance measurement system to track progress. includes specific assessments to provide a baseline of illicit drug use and availability, to neighbor ondcp to see improvements throughout the year.

breaking moments ago, sara carter's reporting that three of those democrats, congressman elijah cummings, maxine waters, and the cowardly adam schiff actually signed a secret pact behind closed doors of traveling to target president trump and subpoena all of his financial and banking records. oh, by the way, which means more evidence. they've even moved on from collusion. this letter obtained by sara carter from congressman jim jordan, it is now raising serious concern over this secret agreement to take down a president. according to a congressional source, "this is not how committees normally operate. the democrats aren't interested in legislating. only attacking the president." sara carter will join us in a moment and give us that full report.ar that is with the president is up against and has been up against from day one. if thehe president cured cancer tonight and gave every american $5 million and adopted their sick agenda, they would still hate him. here's my prediction. when the mueller report is released on thursday, the same people that have lied all along, this is going to find

inform a letter to the white house counsel, house oversight committee chairman, elijah cummings, said the whistle blower named tricia newbolt, a career official in the white house office that oversees security operations, believes that congress must intervene immediately to safeguard our national security. it's the latest sign that democrats plan to use their new subpoena power in the house to demand answers from the trump administration. chairman cummings has now suspected the former personnel security director, carl klein, who allegedly pushed through the clearances, the whistle blower says, despite potential conflicts of interest or possible manipulation by foreign powers. >> at what point do you say enough's enough? >> there will come a moment that i will do whatever is necessary to be done to carry out my responsibilities under the constitution. >> reporter: the president can give out security clearances, as he sees fit, but has denied a role in pushing through these clearan clearances. >> you tell anyone in the white house to overrule security clearances? >> i don't think i have

what's being argued right now -- and you've mentioned the no -show today, is that elijah cummings --it's tradition, but it's a bad tradition -- he wants to get somebody in a deposition who is a current representative of the executive branch, lawyers from executive branch. many people who can assert why something shouldn't be answered. in the last days of the last congress, democrats had no problem insisting that the people from the obama administration and others have that representation, including james comey win again. including peter strzok. it's interesting how elijah cummings wants it one way when he wants a witness not to have counsel, and the other way bottom line, don is a very smart lawyer. he's already testified. the president has been open and transparent in the way those two previous presidents were not. so i expect them to come but i expected to insist on having people behind him that can advise him as to when to answer question and when a privilege might be appropriate. >> melissa: how big of a risk do you think it is? we know exactly what the questioners would be going

now cummings also said that he will subpoena carl klein who served as the personnel security officert the white house for the two -- first two years of the trump administration, that he has questions he wants answered from carl klein. now, jim jordan who is the leading republican on this committee, he said simply that this is a fishing expedition, that he does not think that elijah cummings has the best intentions here when he's trying to get answers on the security clearances. instead, he said, quote, it's extremely unfortunate and disappointing that chairman cummings is now using this sensitive topic as a pretense for a partisan attack on the white house. dana? >> shocker. there's partisan politics being accused and going on on capitol hill, even on important issues of oversight. lauren, stand by, because with me here in the studio i have jis lu, the white house cabinet secretary and transition director for president obama. thank you so much for coming in. >> thank you. >> i want you to put this in context because this is the kind of thing you did, security clearances, you oversaw

the woman that you just heard chairman cummings was trisha newbold.who alerted congress about the at least 25 trump administration officials that received security clearances, despite opposition from her and her professional colleagues. she spoke exclusively to nbc news white house correspondent peter alexander about the humiliation she says she faced from carl kline in retaliation for speaking out. >> what happened to you inside the eob? >> the most recent suspension, 14 days unpaid. probably the worst one is the retaliation against my disability. so, moving the security files out of my reach, not once, twice, three times. and moving other office equipment out of my reach. >> literally putting them on shelves that you couldn't reach. >> yes, yes, so it was definitely humiliating. >> how did it make you feel to have that experience somewhere. >> humiliated, absolutely. but it didn't stop me from doing what was right. >> why is this issue so important that you felt the need to speak out? >> the protection of national security is not a democratic issue

in a letter to the white house counsel, house oversight committee chairman, elijah cummings, said the whistleblower, named tricia newbold, a career supervisor in the white house office that oversees security clearance operations, believes that congress must intervene immediately to safeguard our national security. it's the latest sign that democrats plan to use their new subpoena power in the house to demand answers from the trump administration. chairman cummings has now suspected the former personnel security director, carl klein, who allegedly pushed through the clearances, the whistle-blower says, despite potential conflicts of interest or possible manipulation by foreign powers. >> at what point do you say, enough's enough? >> there will come a moment that i will do whoever is necessary to be done to carry out my responsibilities under the constitution. >> reporter: the president can give ow security clearances as he sees fit, but has denied a role in pushing through these clearances. >> you tell general kelly or anyone else in the white house to -- >> no, i don't think i have th

democratic congressman elijah cummings, chairman. house oversight committee is moving to subpoena the personnel security director at the white house during president trump's first two years in office. and at today's hearing they discounted the whistleblower's allegation. the witness trisha newbold was afraid of retaliation. >> she's crying out. she's begging us to do something. >> you issue a big memo and a big press release after interviewing one witness. i've been on this committee ten years and never seen anything like this. >> oh, please. >> i mean, every day that we go on without getting to the bottom of this matter is a day that we are putting hundreds if not potentially thousand of americans at risk. i mean, really. what is next, putting nuclear codes in instagram dms? >> we remember going to talk with the attorney for whistleblower trisha newbold later this hour. first though, house judiciary chairman jerry nadler is planning to authorize a subpoena tomorrow to get access to the full unredacted mueller report. of course at th

oversight chair congressman elijah cummings spoke with our reporters just moments ago.shocking. there were a number of people who should not have received a security clearance. she thought this could not be resolved inside this white house and she needed to come to -- she needed an independent type of situation. david: independent type of situation. is that what this is? my next guest sits on the house oversight committee. joining me is tennessee republican congressman and dr. mark green. good to see you. thank you for coming in. so what is the charge and how could you consider elijah cummings, i'm sure he's a nice guy, but how could you consider him to be independent? >> yeah, this is absolutely ridiculous. the president broke no law. he hasn't leaked any classified information. all he did was override the decision, the recommendation of the clearance committee. you compare that to what hillary clinton did. she broke the law. she put classified information on an unsecure server open to our enemieenemies. they weren't worried about it then. the real issue with these sec

i don't see cummings asking for him to be prosecuted.f you lie now, we will throw the book at you, he lied once, twice, three time, four times. i don't see cummings throughing the book at him. >> going to provide the tapes. >> it's chris cuomo. i never asked for a job, i can play tape, i asked for the job of chief staff to the president of the united states. direct lie, direct perjury, it is required really when somebody cooperates and then they lie after that a prosecute a prosecutor. collusion, collusion, collusion, collusion. papadopoulos, it's going to show collusion, manafort, blockbuster, going to show collusion, blockbuster, 8 times, 9 times, totally bias, prejudice reporting creating a hysteria over what turns out something that's not true. >> i've been critical of the coverage that at times it was overhyped. i'm talking about all media coverage but on the other hand this was an investigation authorized, 37 indictments, you say the networks should apologize. >> for not giving balance coverage. nbc puts whole interview -- >> right

you just heard chairman cummings. but here's the question: you're on the judiciary committee.ready to, some of them at least, ready to impeach right now. do you believe that as chairman cummings and i think chairman of your committee, jerry nadler, said this morning that what mr. mueller did is leave you a roadmap, leave congress a roadmap for further investigation? >> i suspect that's what the democrats, particularly in the house of representatives, are going to want to do. that's political question. i think politically speaking it would be a mistake for them to do it. it sounds like some of them are inclined to go down that road. but what we have to remember, bob, is the number-one take away from this report is that there was no collusion. we've got people who for the last two years have been using the russian's attempt to undermine the legitimacy of our electoral process as an effort within this country to undermine this president and the process by which he was elected. but there was no collusion. it isn't there. not a scintilla of evidence supports that. so it's time to m

chair of the judiciary committee or elijah cummings.alation here. >> is the president planning to claim executive privilege? because they already waved that for the mueller team. >> that's correct. and they have astutley pointed out, the white house is contending that they always have a right to exert privilege. and i think they'll have to make a judgment on that. i don't think we know which way that will show up yet. >> did the president say they're going to try to stop him from testifying or does he leave himself wiggle room like he normally does. >> the folks around the president made clear to us they don't want to let don mcgahn testify. the president himself said he did not want to participate in it. and any of the folks are not planning to. >> is this -- obviously the president believes it's partisan. it's an understandable argument that plenty of people can make but is it also the president just doesn't want to see don mcgahn on television repeating what he told robert mueller because he's a creature of television and believes th

to chairman cummings and the members. what do we get from the other side?ll, the president can do whatever he wants. >> every day that we go on without getting to the bottom of this matter is a day we're putting hundreds if not thousands of americans at risk. >> lots of democrats and republicans clashing there. you'll remember that yesterday the house democrats released a summary of a whistle blower's claim that at least 25 security clearance denials were overturned. that's what jim jordan was taking issue with, he said that was cherry picked testimony. and they should have released the entire transcript. joining me now is ken dilanian and elliot williams who is a former counsel for the senate judiciary committee. you heard under his breath, elijah cummings basically just brush off jim jordan's anger and say, you've done this too, is this what this committee has devolved into, a screaming match? >> well, look, katie, there was a lot of exaggerations on both sides of that exchange you played. here's the bottom line this has never happened before. to the exte

what he is doing is incredible. >> reporter: jim jordan of ohio, the ranking republican, accused cummingsf a partisan attack on the white house. the house oversight committee is meeting to decide whether to issue a subpoena to newbold's former supervisor, carl klein. newbold accuses klein of pushing security clearances through, even when she identified problems. >> thank you, laura. >>> president trump is not backing down from the threat to close the southen border. the department of homeland security says it may reassign 200 officers to stop the influx of immigrant families. manuel bojorquez has more. >> reporter: u.s. immigration officials say they have reached a breaking point of trying to handle the influx of people seeking asylum. >> the challenge that makes this so unique is the fact 70% of them are all family members and unaccompanied children. >> reporter: last week, they were housed in a caged section. officials said detention centers were beyond capacity. dhs was forced to release a thousand asue lum seekers back. president trump slashed the $700 million in u.s. aide to guatemal

just in, the trump team is suing chairman elijah cummings over a subpoena.elker back at the white house. safe to assume, at this point, the president or the trump organization will not provide elijah cummings with the information he wanted? in fact, they are suing him. >> reporter: that's what it says. congressman elijah cummings is using his subpoena power in an improper way. this is a statement by jay sekulow. we will not allow presidential harassment to go unanswered. of course that term, presidential harassment is one that's been coined by president trump. what, specifically, are we talking about? elijah cummings, the house oversight subpoenaed a range of different financial documents from president trump. this is, effectively, to say, no way, we are not turning them over. this is a step too far. does this relate to the president's tax returns? i'm told it does not. that is a separate issue. we are talking about a range of financial documents from president trump's past. this lawsuit filed on behalf of the trump organization as well as the president's bu

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. >> house oversight chairman elijah cummings accuses the president of a, quote, massive, unprecedented, and growing pattern of obstruction. >> it's impossible to make the president accountable if we cannot have access to information. >> the president has also sued cummings to keep his financial records a secret. now, lawmakers remain on recess until next week, but then some high-profile hearings will begin. remember that congress and house democrats in particular want to hear from attorney general william barr and special counsel robert mueller. barr is scheduled to testify next wednesday and thursday before congress. kenneth? >> natalie brand in washington. p natalie, thank you. >>> former vice president joe biden's entrance into the 2020 democratic presidential race this morning means he's joining a widely diverse field. the list features candidates ranging from 37 to 77 years old, liberals and moderates, senators, governors, mayor, and an unprecedented number of women and minorities. democrats view the upcoming election as a must-win for the party and they're looking to nominate som

. >> reporter: a memo from house oversight committee chairman elijah cummings says tricia newbold felt this is my last hope to bring the integrity back into our office. >> things she has told us a shocking. >> reporter: she told the committee about two senior white house officials who are still on the job. both drew objections by staff but those objections were overruled despite concerns such as foreign influence. none of the 25 people were named in the memo. the committee has already been investigating the security clearances of nine senior officials including the president's son-in-law and white house advisor jared kushner. fox news laura ingram asked if he posed a grave concern. >> i can say i work with some phenomenal people and i think over the last 2 years the president has been doing a phenomenal job to identify where the national security priorities are. >> reporter: he was celebrated at the white house yesterday. >> his life became extremely complex. and he wouldn't trade it. i don't think he would trade it because what he's doing is incredible. >> reporter: jim jordan of ohio

nancy pelosi and a lot of these committee chairman, like chairman another of judiciary, and elijah cummings of the oversight committee, who are saying, let's not rush into impeachment. all of thetigate various aspects of this report. we haven't even seen the full unredacted report yet. robert mueller himself, let's hear from bill barr, the attorney general, then let's proceed cautiously and deliberately and investigate every aspect of what robert mueller has put out there in his report. you have these two very disparate wings of the party that are struggling to unify in this post robert mueller report world. colleagues,our hill covering the story, this meeting, and you are tweeting about it. democratichis," leaders on conference call seek to reign in calls for impeachment, but some rank and file question that approach, arguing there's plenty of evidence to launch impeachment proceedings." you also note that at the same time, that subpoena by the goesiary committee chair out to former white house counsel don make again. is that a next message -- don mcgann. is that in next message? -- a mixe