cummings: thank you. we look forward to engaging new questions when we reconvene after we dispose of some committee business. the hearing will now stand in recess. [captioning performed by the national captioning institute, which is responsible for its caption content and accuracy. visit ncicap.org] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2019] mr. cummings: the committee will come to order. without objection, the chair is authorized to declare a recess of the committee at any time. the chair may postpone further proceedings today on the question of approving any measure or matter or adopting an amendment for which a recorded vote or the yeas and nays are ordered. now, pursuant to notice, i call up a subpoena resolution to compel the appearance of kellyanne conway to testify before this committee. the clerk will report the resolution, which was distributed in advance. the clerk: a resolution offered by chairman cummings authorizing issuance of subpoena related to the hatch act. mr. cummings: wi

meyer coming and cummings and many of my family members today. you will agree there is something inspiring and life affirming about standing here among women and men who have completed one difficult journey in their lives and are about to embark upon another. ladies and gentlemen, they started something, and they finished it. go on. give yourselves a hand. [applause] rep. cummings: we know from our study of ecology that life flourishes most at a crossroads where two diverse ecosystems meet. graduation days are also a crossroads. with those we acknowledge, and honor are also challenged. both by your recognition and by the life forces. they are now called upon to make. i would add that this year especially our graduates will be embarking on lives of accomplishment, but at the same time our nation is also at a critical crossroads. in the words of former president barack obama, we americans must decide what kind of nation we want our country to be, and then we must go about the business of shaping our destiny. ladies and gentlemen, i will offer some

chair cummings: the hearing is adjourned. mr. kerner: thank you. chair cummings: all right now. [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2019] [captioning performed by the national captioning institute, which is responsible for its caption content and accuracy. visit ncicap.org] [indistinct conversations] ♪ pelosi: the house will be in order. >> for 40 years, c-span has been coverage from washington dc and around the country's a you can make up your own mind. created by cable in 1979, c-span is that you buy your local cable or satellite provider. c-span, your unfiltered view of government. president trump delivered freedomat the annual conference in washington, d.c. he td

cummings: ok. i don't want it left hanging that crew was the only folks that may have issued some type of complaint. mr. kerner: there were other organizations. mr. cummings: all right. thanks. ms. kelly. ms. kelly: thank you, mr. chair. i've said to you on more than one occasion that you have the patience of job and you are certainly showing it now. i've been on this committee for years. over 60 -- 60 and 60 years we were in the minority. the last administration was accused of everything they could have been accused of and you would have thought it was the devil himself leading the country. so it's so interesting to me now to hear comments of what the other side is accusing us of, when it was embarrassing and so disrespectful what they did to the former president. but anyway. o.s.c.'s social media guidance states and i quote, employees may not use social media account designated for official purposes to post or share messages directed at the success or failure of a political party. candidate in a

cummings:, no let it go. i asked you. ok. without objection, all members will have five legislative days within which to submit additional written questions or the witness to the chair. which will be forwarded to the witness for their response. and again, mr. kerner, is that your staff back there? mr. kerner: yes, it is. mr. cummings: how many people you got on your staff? mr. kerner: the hatch act staff has five permanent employees. mr. cummings: again, i want to thank you. i ask our witness to please respond as promptly as possible. we may have written questions for you. i just ask you to respond as fast as you ca all right? mr. kerner: yes, sir. mr. cummings: all right. hearing is adjourned. mr. kerner: thank you. [captioning performed by the national captioning institute, which is responsible for its caption content and accuracy. visit ncicap.org] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2019] >> watch live coverage at 6:45 p.m. eastern on c-span2. you can also watch live at c-span.org or listen to the live play

cummings: thank you, mr. i don't have that information. >> why don't you get it. >> thank you. >> thank you, mr.jordan. >> thank you. mr. ekoske, let me come back. you're not only the administrator for t.s.a. you're the acting deputy secretary of d.h.s. yes. how long have you worked there? i have worked in dhs in that position since april 11th. how long have you worked total at dhs -- mr. pekoske: well i was in the coast guard for 33 years and in the t.s.a. for almost two. >> appreciate your service. to reiterate where we have been in this hearing, there's a crisis on the border, is that right? mr. pekoske: without a doubt. >> enough fentanyl seized to kill 150,000 americans. how many an pretions last month? -- one drug seizure to kill 57 million americans. how many apprehensions last month. mr. pekoske: 144,000. rep. jordan: for the year so far? mr. pekoske: this year, 667,315. that's way above any previous year, isn't it? yes, sir. rep. jordan: 60,000 kids in 40 days was also happening. so this is certainly

elijah cummings considering impeachment proceedings. what is the issue there? the issue there is the trump administration to add citizenship questions to the 2020 census which democrats and other critics say would prompt some to not respond to a census, and therefore skewing and even undercount populations that could have impacts on electoral divisions, representation in congress, and even federal funding. the argument here is that barr says he was asked to add that question by the justice department to help as a voter rights mechanism protection. chairman cummings says he has evidence that in fact it was designed as a political purpose and that -- so he has been for two months now, trying to get documents from both the justice department and the commerce department to outline how they came to the decision. >> billy house covers congress for bloomberg. you can read his report on bloomberg.com, and he is on twitter. billy house, thanks so much. >> we will have live coverage monday of the house and rules committee voting on a resolution authorizing judiciary chai

cummings. >> no. >> mr. cummings votes no. ms. maloney. >> no. >> ms. maloney votes no. ms. norton? >> no. >> ms. norton votes no. >> mr. clay? mr. lynch? >> no. >> mr. lynch votes no. mr. cooper? mr. connolly? mr. christianworthy. >> no. >> mr. raskin. mr. raskin votes no. mr. rudo. mr. rouda votes no. ms. hill. ms. hill votes no. ms. wasserman-schultz. ms. wasserman-schultz votes no. mr. sarbanes? mr. welch. >> mr. welch votes no. ms. speier. >> no. >> ms. speier votes no. ms. kelly? mr. de sunnier? mrs. ms. lawrence? ms. lawrence votes no. mr. khanna. mr. khanna votes no. mr. gomez? mr. gomez votes no. ms. ocasio-cortez? ms. pressley? ms. pressley votes no. ms. talib? ms. talib votes no. mr. jordan? mr. jordan votes yes. mr. amash? mr. amash votes no. mr. gosar? mr. gosar votes yes. ms. fox? yes. ms. fox votes yes. mr. meadows? mr. meadows votes yes. mr. hice? mr. hice votes yes. mr. grothman? mr. grothman votes yes. mr. comer? mr. comer votes yes. mr. clout? mr. clout votes yes. mr. gibbs? mr. gibbs votes yes. mr. higgins? mr. higgins votes yes. mr. norman? mr. norman votes yes.

cummings. >> no. >> mr. cummings votes no. miss maloney? >> no. >> this maloney votes no. >> ms. norton? >> no. >> ms. norton votes no. mr. clay? mr. lynch? mr. lynch votes no. mr. cooper? mr. connelly? krishnamurthy? mr. krishnamurthy votes no. mr. raskin? mr. raskin votes no. mr. ruda? mr. ruda votes no. ms. hill? ms. hill votes no. ms. wasserman schultz? ms. wasserman schultz votes no. mr. serbians? mr. welch? mr. welch votes no. ms. fear votes no. >> mr. cooper is not recorded. >> no. >> mr. survey is not recorded. >> no. >> mr. welch? no?r. cooper, you voted mr. cooper votes no. recorded.ly is not mr. connelly votes no. clay? mr. clay votes no. miss kelly votes no. >> if anyone else wishing to vote -- >> on this vote we have 15 yeas, 24 nos. >> the amendment fails. the question now is on the higgins amendment, which failed by one vote. the gays and these are ordered, the clerk shall call the role. >> is everyone who wishes to vote voted? the clerk will give the tally. >> on this boat we have 15 yeas and 24 nos. >> the nos have it, the amendment fails. the question now occurs

cummings? no. >> mr. cummings votes no. >> mr. clay. mr. cooper. mr. cooper votes no. mr. connolly votes no. mr. morrissey votes no. mr. raskin votes no. mr. ruta votes no. mint hill votes no. miss wasserman schultz. miss wasserman schultz votes no. mr. welch? miss kelly? miss kelly votes no. mr. dasani? miss lawrence votes no. miss vasquez mr. gomez. mr. gomez votes no. miss presley votes no. miss to leave votes no. mr. jordan votes yes. mr. marsh votes yes. mr. massey votes yes. mr. meadows votes yes. mr. gibbs mr. gibbs votes yes. mr. higgins mr. higgins both yes. mr. norman votes yes. mr. roy votes yes. ms. miller both yes. mr. armstrong votes yes. >> how is mr. grossman recorded? >> mr. grossman is not recorded. >> this box is not recorded. miss fox votes yes. >> this hill is recorded as no. >> how is miss norton recorded. >> ms. norton is not recorded. miss norton votes no. >> i just want to confirm that i was recorded. >> mr. cross hill cortez is not recorded. >> the clerk will give us the tally. >> on this vote we have 50 yes and 20 knows. >> the motion is not agre

cummings: yes. mr. raskin: there is an article in the boston globe which refutes precisely that proposition that somehow senator warren lied about her record. [talking simultaneously] mr. cummings: i thought you said the end. mr. raskin: happy to do that. mr. meadows: a point of order has to stay the rule. mr. raskin: i believe the rule -- i believe that the rule states we cannot disparage and defame other members of congress. mr. comer: i did not disparage another member of congress. i'm reading one of the violations that they claim -- this is a very serious hearing when you're ruling that someone and each member on the democrat side just about has said that kellyanne conway should be fired. i'm reading one of the allegations that you claim she violated in the hatch act. i didn't say anything disparaging about senator warren. i asked if that was factual or not. i take offense to that and, mr. chairman, i'd like to strike that from the record. what mr. raskin -- mr. cummings: without objection. mr. come

>> fair question from elijah cummings there? >> no question. be a political endeavor. if there's really nothing to hide here, if all they're doing is to try to do the best job possible of counting everyone in the united states, why have a big fight over this? the mueller report, it's understandable there would be a fight over that. that involves wrongdoing by the president. this should be fairly routine oversight by the house. so, it certainly raises a lot of questions. and i think that the committee is being smart by taking some time to evaluate what they're going to do in response to this letter because this is going to end up in court. and they want to appear as reasonable as possible and position us the right way for the litigation to follow. >> so, just talk about this in the broader context here, because -- well, we've got about 30 seconds. we've got to leave it there. >> sure. >> renato mariotti, thank you. >> sure. >> it's more stonewalling but supreme court may be the final arbiter on this soon, maybe as soon as monday. >> all presiden

onlyo the judiciary committee chairman jerrold nadler or oversight committee chairman and elijah cummings or anyone else, to simply use their subpoena power action itly logical has raised some legal concerns basically legal action. it has raised legal concerns in experts. host: give us a quick look at willacy next week starting with committee ones monday and it on this resolution on monday, the resolution you're talking about is formerly sponsored by the rules committee chairman, just mcgovern. he will hold a hearing and meeting in which he will set the rules for the floor debate the next day, on tuesday, for this resolution. i am told he will give one hour of debate, three minutes -- 30 minutes to republicans, 30 minister democrats. it will likely just be limited to c-span. mainly asking those who favor impeachment now, what are we doing? why are we going through all this? why don't we launch impeachment ?roceedings now host: in one of your headlines, it says a top democrat will be held in contempt. talking about wilbur ross, the commerce secretary, oversight committee chair elijah cummi

chairman cummings: so ordered. upresentative: if i can pick , theere we just were ubiquity of this technology strikes me. maybe we have already mostly lost this battle. airports increasingly are using facial recognition technology to process passengers in a more expeditious way, correct? cbp have introduced face recognition plans. they have not done rulemaking. some of their plans go far beyond what congress authorized. is clearative: technology already in airports? >> yes. representative: so we already have it. are you aware of restrictions on that private company in terms of how it uses whatever data is collected? representative: -- >> i don't know that company specifically. with regards to airport use, there are a lot of concerns. for example, requiring americans to provide biometric, their face, and questions about whether there is a way to opt out. i tried to opt out. it was not an easy process when i was traveling internationally. there are questions about the buildout. it has been presented as, we are using

cummings: i rise in strong support of this resolution. ladies and gentlemen, the trump administration is engaged in one of the most unprecedented cover-ups since watergate. it is not just about russia. it is so much broader than that. this cover-up spans across numerous investigations and it extends from the white house to multiple federal agencies of government to completely separate outside parties. the administration officials now question the fundamental basis of congress to conduct oversight. they object to committee rules and precedent that have been in place for decades under both republican and democratic leaders. and they make baseless legal arguments to avoid producing documents and testimony. the trump administration is challenging the very constitutionality of congressional oversight and it's happening in broad daylight. several weeks ago president trump vowed and i quote, we are fighting all the subpoenas, end of quote. since then he has refused it o work on legislative priorities such as infrastructure until congress halts o

has congressman cummings responded? >> he has.hat he's essentially alleging is, look, this is a political hit job from right-wing groups. hiss wife has also said i've hired attorneys and professionals to make sure i am doing everything by the book. we will see what happens with this. but it's also interesting because elijah cummings, at least according to the "washington examiner" in his 2017 financial report, he mentioned the income his wife got from the llc but did not mention the income that she got from the nonprofit. the problem is these two entities are so commingled that this is where it's raising the red flag via this group with the irs. that's why they filed the complaint to the irs is because she is getting this 5% management fee. in two years alone, she made $250,000 off of that management fee. >> tucker: unbelievable. and we are told the elijah cummings is an important moral voice. could be time to reassess. >> need to learn more about this. thank you, tucker. >> tucker: welcome a youtube clamping down on free speech.

cummings has put forth, masar's, they should release their documents. on the deutsche bank maxine waters case, we won that in court. of course, they'll appeal because they want to obstruct the american people from having the truth. the question you ask, do we get more by having an inquiry? some say yes, some say no. >> if a majority of your caucus wants to go forward with an impeachment inquiry, would you go forward? >> it's not even close in our caucus. >> but eventually? >> why are we speculating on hypotheticals. what we're doing is winning in court. we won a victory getting the documents from the justice department today, for fear of further going to court, although we're still going to hold the attorney general in contempt today. the path that we're on is a path that i think, look, i want to tell you something. nothing is as divisive in our country, in my view, than impeachment. our founders gave us so much to be grateful for. they were a blessing intellectually in values and all the rest. thank god they made our constitution amendable. they had th

chairman cummings just received saying president trump executive privilege over certain documents the oversight committee subpoenaed because the committee is moving forward with the contempt vote today. the letter says doj tried to make accommodations to the committee and argued the committee made no efforts to square its demands. is this the posture of the white house moving forward, kellyanne? >> not the posture, the law. the president has every right, the department of justice has every right to do that because they're asking for documents that are privileged. and i would hope that they can continue to negotiate and speak about what is appropriate and what is not. but the world is watching. the country sees that they would rather continue to investigate than legislate. meanwhile, we're just going to move forward. i'm one of the people here who has the pen on the president's health care policies, a big team working on this here. 29 million americans have no health insurance and working on infrastructure with or without them and working on keeping this economy booming and working on

cummings: thank you. today marks a pivotal moment for congress and our ability to conduct oversight as an independent branch of government. none of us wanted to be in this position. but the trump administration is challenging the very constitutionality of congressional oversight. and it is happening in broad daylight. this is not just about russia. this is a broad, cooshed nated -- coordinated campaign to stall more investigations across the board, and it is being directed from the very top. this entire year, the white house has not produced not one document to the oversight committee. let me say that again. in all of our investigations, the white house has not turned over once english word of paper in response to any of our requests. the hurricanes in puerto rico, the white house has produced nothing. security clearance abuses, the white house has produced nothing. efforts to transfer nuclear technology to saudi arabia, the white house has produced nothing. hush money payments, the white house has produc

the department of justice informed house oversight chairman elijah cummings it will not imply for thet for more documents about the decision to add a citizenship question to the 2020 census. in response, cummings says he and his committee will vote next week on whether to hold attorney general bill barr and commerce secretary wilbur ross in contempt of congress. now we know that chairman cummings has interviewed former kansas secretary of state, chrisco vac and has the white house interfered aggressively to try to prevent coback from answering questions. back with me, sirius xm radio host, danielle moodie-mills, republican strategist, noelle nikpour, and joining us, former federal prosecutor and msnbc analyst paul butler. paul, the facts that they are refusing to hand over further documents about this and that the house oversight committee is to vote on whether or not to hold the attorney general in contempt as well as secretary ross. they can't s what is the legal meaning of this? >> this is about the trump administration deny people the right to vote. this citizenship question they'

cummings in statement tonight again, threatening to hold them in contempt, saying that their actions are part of a pattern in the trump administration and he will consider postponing a contempt vote if they hand over what they've been requested by thursday. wolf? >> we'll see what happens, sunlen, thank you very much. sunlen serfaty up on capitol hill. joining me now, raja krishnamoorthi. thanks so much for joining us, congressman. as you know, at least 56 house democrats are now calling for impeachment or beginning at least impeachment proceedings against the president. where do you stand? >> i think that the mueller report laid out impeachable conduct, especially the obstruction of justice parts of the report, volume ii. i think that the concern that i have is we want to begin the impeachment proceedings at a time when we've collected enough evidence to get to a conviction. i think that the concern of folks like myself and others is that you don't want to have impeachment be an empty exercise, where the result could be the president being absolved and then being able to legitimatel

sun" reports that at baltimore state university's commencement in baltimore, congressman elijah cummings, who represents most of the city, urged their graduates to use their degrees and talents to defend and promote democracy in its hour of peril. the newspaper also reports congressman cummings, who chairs the house oversight committee, did not mention president trump by name but did say the president has created "a fight for the very soul of democracy." this commencement speech is just over half an hour.

. >>2 committee chairman elijah cummings their refusal to testify was not surprising. >>this is a coordinated campaign to more investigations. the board. and it is directed from the very top and issue the final question to be added to the end of next year's census questionnaire asking. >>quote is this person a citizen of the united states. the census bureau reportedly included it as a result of pressure from the justice department i want to know why it was why this question was magically added after we have seen that a political operate is new and detail intent to intimidate racial and immigrant communities. >>for a partisan purpose, new york representative alexandria ocasio cortez and other democrats charge that the new question. >>is politically motivated that it's designed to intimidate non citizens regardless of their legal status and that it would give republicans an edge in the population estimates used to draw congressional districts to shield his cabinet members president trump issued an order invoking executive privilege i think when you have a sense is and. >

congresswoman maxine waters, congressman cummings, congressman nadler, congresswoman -- congressman richie neal, congressman eliot engel. one more. all whom have been fighting the fight, gathering the facts to protect and defend our constitution. the oath of office that we take is why we are on the floor today -- to hold the attorney general of the united states barr and former white house counsel mcgahn in civil contempt for their refusal to comply with congress' subpoenas. uncover the and truth for the american people. at the birth of our drox, amid war and revolution, thomas payne said, the times have found us. we are here today because the times have found us. while we do not place ourselves in the same category of greatness as our founders, we do recognize the urgency of the threat to our nation we face today. this body has a solemn duty, mr. speaker, a solemn duty to protect and defend our democracy, honoring the oath we take, and the constitution that is the foundation of our freedom. that constitution which begins with our beautiful preamble, we, the people. immediately following t

>> oversight chairman elijah cummings asserting executive privilege asking what the president has the hide. cummings says the contempt vote is not personal. >> nobody is trying to be harmful to our attorney general. it's not about him. nobody is trying to be harmful to the secretary of commerce. it's not about him. it's about our country. >> part of the justice department's defense of declaring executive privilege is it's already turned over many documents in response to the subpoena, but it had to keep certain information confidential to protect attorney client privilege and internal deliberations. a leading conservative suggests the battle is all political theater. >> democrats in the supreme court will rule by the end of the month on this citizenship question. they hope to use the oversight power to create a controversy around this issue, try to impact the court's decision. >> chairman cummings is frustrated by this askertation of executive privilege saying the committee has asked for the documents more than a year and hours before a possible contempt vote, the president exerts exe

cummings. a democrat to put the republican chairman's picture back on the wall. >> much of my career is dedicated to oversight and i worked on significant investigations at the oversight committee. honor of serving to majority leaders as director of oversight. i have also had first-hand experience conducting oversight during different administrations. i believe no one has greater respect for the value of oversight or this committee's role. administrative murphy, herself a former congressional staffer, shares my respect. in the last month, we have provided thousands of pages of documents. we have graded working groups to respond to each of your requests and committed considerable resources to those efforts. we are provided over 17,000 pages of documents, including a revised fbi headquarters plan and 16,000 pages regarding the old post office. our staff estate in regular communication with the committee . sharing search terms, and that request,at your broadening the search. i hope my testimony wi

talk us through exactly what elijah cummings is accusing bill barr and wilbur ross of?ress has the foresubpoena documents but as we've seen over the last few months that power doesn't mean a whole lot because the executive branch knows it is uniquely situated to oppose these. after all how do you hold bill barr in criminal contempt because the next step is to ask bill barr to present bill barr to indict bill barr for contempt. congress has other contempt powers and can send the sergeant of arms out to arrest people but that's not realist jig. congress has the foresubpoena but only kind of because ultimately it requires another branch to enforce that. in this particular case, the key is, congress wants these documents from the executive branch in order to determine whether or not the proposed change to the sentence question was not to enforce the law but instead motivated to help white and other similarly situated voters. >> holding them in contempt they are building this paper trail, building case to take this up to the supreme court if they want to. >> exactly. . simul

elijah cummings. at the time of the republican contempt vote seven years ago, attorney general holder had already produced more than 7,000 pages of documents to our committee. to my knowledge, attorney general barr has refused to turn over any document. he went on to say the night before the contempt vote in 2012, i remember this well, attorney general holder was really trying not to get a contempt vote. he found this particularly sensitive. for his integrity. so he was working with the committee. attorney general holder personally came to meet with chairman issa and me and offered to provide copies of additional internal deliberative documents. here attorney general barr is blocking the production of the very documents that general holder came forward to produce. he was like that in the judiciary committee as well. then attorney general holder made a fair and reasonable offer, to resolve the impasse, by providing thousands of pages of documents and numerous interviews. here, attorney general barr ref

this is elijah cummings.re's a live picture of the hearing room where they're going to meet to tackle this matter. they are supposed to be starting up in less than 10 minutes. you can watch this live at 10:00 a.m. eastern time on c-span three. chairman has announced that he scheduled the committee vote to hold the attorney general and the commerce secretary in contempt over this dispute about documents regarding a potential citizenship question. elijah cummings, the maryland democrats and all members of the committee have proposed to enforce the committee's bipartisan subpoenas. the chairman said last night that if he gets some of these documents today he will call off the boat. we have also read that the attorney general william barr, allows the president to declare executive privilege. you can watch it at 10:00 a.m. on c-span3. here on c-span later today, 10:00 eastern time it's morning hour in the house. and at noon they start debate on a giant package of appropriations bills. roughly $1 trillion in spendi

cummings. all those in favor signify by saying aye. >> aye. >> all those signify by saying no. >> no. >> in the opinion, the ayes have it. the ayes have it. >> might as well -- i'd respectfully ask for a roll call if we're going to roll call all the others, we'll roll call this one as well, mr. chairman. >> we'll have roll call when we take the other votes. thank you very much. >> mr. chairman, i have an amendment at the desk. >> the gentleman from north carolina, mr. meadows, is recognized. whoa, whoa, whoa. has it been distributed? all right. everybody has it? all right. yes or no? >> no. i think their distributing it now, mr. chairman. >> all right. >> in the interest of time, mr. chairman, i'm willing to go ahead and speak on it if you want while -- no, the parliamentarian doesn't want to do that. >> we know that it's a great amendment coming from you. >> thank you, mr. chairman. >> very thoughtful, i'm sure. >> actually, it is. >> you act like you're surprised. >> well, sometimes midnight

you are now recognize to give your statement for five minutes spent thank you chairman cummings and ranking member jordan and members of the committee. i am the deputy assistant director leading information services branch with the fbi criminal justice information services division. thank you for the opportunity to appear before the committee to testify today with the fbi use a facial recognition for law enforcement purposes it is crucial authorize numbers of the communities have access to today's biometric technology to investigate and identify to prosecute terrorists and criminals. the fbi next-generation identification system which includes facial recognition aids in our ability across the country facial recognition is an investigative tool to greatly enhance law enforcement capabilities to protect public safety. as the fbi it is crucial to protect the civil liberties of the american people as part of our culture this is why when the fbi developed facial recognition technology and also pioneered best practices to effectively deploy these technologies for public safety to keep with the la

apiece says top democrats would rather be held in contempt, talking about wilbur ross, elijah cummingshat? is the issue there? >> the efforts by the trump administration to add a citizens question to the 2020 synthesis which democrats and other critics say would prompt some to not respond to the census and orrefore skew perhaps undercount populations that could have impacts on electoral divisions, representation in congress, and federal funding. the argument here is that barr says he was asked to add that question by the justice voter rights a mechanism protection. the oversight committee chairman said he has evidence that in fact it was designed as a playful purpose -- political purpose, and for two months now he has been trying to get both the justice department and the congress department to outline how they came to that decision. >> billy house covers congress for bloomberg. he is on twitter at house in session. thanks select. >> washington journal, live every day with news and policy issues that impact you. coming up monday morning, former republican congressman tom davis joins us

>> i think it would be pursuit of balanced maps, as the court said in gaffney against cummings. it would be a pursuit of competitive districts. i think there are a range of circumstances -- >> what is a balanced map, what does that mean? >> i think balanced map in the gaffney sense which is the sense i mean it is a proportional map. so in this case, it might be a 6-2 delegation or a 5-3 delegation. >> but if you set out to draw a 5-3 here, say, we want to be proportional, we want to be fair, so we're five democratic districts and three republican districts, the democrats, individual democrats that you sort into the republican districts are going to be able to say we're being deprived of our ability to be treated without reference to our partisan affiliation, our political affiliation, right? >> well, yes, and i think that's how -- >> doesn't that show that your test, but you said doing a 5-3 would be okay. >> that's right. >> despite the fact it would still treat individual voters, it would penalize them because of their political affiliation. >> your honor, that is exactly the

beginning with roger shanahan at the naval academy followed by house oversight committee chair elijah cummings from maryland at oregon state university. >> we know we have been called the biggest little city on the map starting in 1910. what that meant was that there was some a to excitement and culture and action happening in reno that it really was the biggest little city around. >> there are not many cities in north america that has what reno has. we are on the edge of a vast wilderness. i think of the environment as a crucial determinant of what life is like in our own city. >> the c-span cities tour is on the road examining the american story. we take you to reno, nevada. >> reno, 100 years ago, was known as a place to get a divorce. then reno became known as a place to go gamble. that has been basically drying up for the last 25 years, but we

cummings. chairman cummings is known as the gentleman of our state. he has done everything in his power to bring the secretary of commerce and and give him every opportunity. all we get from the administration is the middle finger. that is not appropriate for the chairman of this committee or the power of congress. we will vindicate article 1. the president has executive privilege to not cooperate with congress in any way, let him assert it. why would we finger point? is ridiculous. maybe at some point the administration you know what we were viewed -- falsely accused we investigate the false accusations? do we investigate the false accusations or do we continue to look at something mueller said and came back and said no collusion. after 10 months, and let the fbi look at it, no collusion. >> will you yield? >> of course. will you show the special counsel report works is no collusion? on page 1 and two he said we do not address no collusion. >> collusion there were more than 125 contacts. >> i

they have not gotten any response and chairman cummings said now he's willing to hold attorney general william barr and commerce secretary wilbur ross in context if they do not comply in short order. it's worth keeping in mind the house committee already held william barr in full contempt and there may be a full hearing as soon as next week. but will the administration, who's been so clear they're not going to comply on any of the democratic requests for documents and subpoenas, if they will comply now. cummings is willing to give them some space but it looks right now the committee is fully engaged moving forward on contempt citations for two other cabinet secretaries, wolf. >> lots going on, on capitol hill. phil mattingly, thank you very much. democratic congressman john garamendi is a member of the services committee. thank you for joining us. you heard they will hold hearings on what they call lessons learned from the mueller report. could these hearings persuade more of your colleagues, perhaps more americans to actually support opening formal impeachment proceedings? >> well, i

nationwide injunctions is not reflect an unwillingness to issue injunctions. 1937, attorney general cummings issued a report stating that the lower courts have issued thousands of inductions -- injunctions. in keeping with the english tradition, they found the government only with respect to the parties in those cases. the government continue to enforce new deal programs against others. even then, the subsequent therney general described reaction and the use of injunctions to challenge new deal programs as reckless, partisan, and irresponsible. i could only imagine what he would think today. the novel approach taken by some districts over the past few years reflects a departure, not only from the historical limitations, but from our traditional understanding of the role of courts. courts issuing a -- nationwide injunctions talk about striking down a law. we have all used the term as a shorthand, but courts do not have the authority to strike down laws. in our system they resolve disputes between parties, and as the supreme court explained, a court may enjoy -- enjoin not the execution, the a

francis is a more efficient engine that was produced by cummings, we actually had direct talks with cummings' marine district. and they hemmed and hawed, but they finally came through, and we do have permission to use are you newable -- renewable diesel on all of our fireboats. >> president nakajo: i know i live by station 5. does the tank go by station 5 and fill all the trucks. >> so all the diesel ordered by the san francisco fire department is renewable diesel. >> president nakajo: and while i'm talking about station 5, what other stations have tanks that can take care of our vehicles? >> so we have, in total, i believe 19 tanks throughout the city. some are gasoline, some are unleaded, but they're all being replaced with renewable diesel since 2015. >> this is within the jurisdiction of bureau equipment? >> yes. this fuel truck will respond to any major incident. what happens is if we have major firefighting operations such as the mission bay -- or i believe there was a fifth alarm on mission street a few years ago, so we'll setup the fuel unit a block away, and then, we'll fill these f

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it is at the same time he attacked his political opponents demonstrating how much his cum pain appears to rely on us versus them rhetoric no matter what label they use a vote for any democrat in 2020 is a vote for the rise of radical socialism and the destruction of the american dream . where it's dead act the anger and passion of charms 2016 campaign and went down well with these core supporters in florida. alexander phenomena put that report together for us he joins us now from orlando good day to you alexandra 20000 people packed into the amway stadium there for that a rally can you give us some more of your impressions of what was happening there what really struck me a brian was the fact that trump supporters seem to be very loyal they voted for donald trump in 2016 and they are still supporting him although we have to say that he did not keep all the promises he had to made just take as an example the border which he has been talking about building the border wall for 2 and a half years now and nothing happened so far but that people there here in the orlando they still supported

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