elizabeth and cummins are kicked out.pirit. >> he got very angry and almost blew a gasket. >> that's pretty scary. >> yeah, he blew a fuse right there, and he got mad and took out his knife and then dropped it on the ground and started screaming at april. i thought this was gonna be the end. he's gonna shoot somebody. >> reporter: it's a risky proposition. alienating the peaceful residents of this commune with so little to their name, and so much at stake. do you have food? >> eggs and two oranges, actually. >> you had eggs and two oranges? >> yeah. >>and $10. >> yeah, nothing in sight. >> reporter: out of hope and full of desperation. >> who's gonna find me? >> reporter: elizabeth heads back down that hellish hill. never in a million years expecting to meet her unlikely hero. >> i saw a photo of the guy and i was like, "that's definitely him." >> reporter: when "20/20" continues. [ "werk it" by mama haze ] ♪ werk it now ♪ woo, werk it now, woo, werk it now ♪ ♪ baby watch me werk it like ♪ ♪ werk it now, woo. werk it now

this puts the ball back in cummins' court.tement criticizing this move by the white house to essentially reject his line of questioning, not providing these documents. he says in this statement, there's a key difference between a president who exercises his authority under the constitution and a president who overrules career experts and his top advisers to benefit his family members and then conceals his actions from the american people. so this fight intensifying. expect elijah cummins to move forward potentially with subpoenas and we'll see how the white house ultimately responds as this fight gets ratcheted up on capitol hill. >> manu raju, thank you. i want to bring back in jennifer rogers. as you look at all of this, maybe the next step is subpoenas. that would be a big step. >> it is and i don't think we're quite there yet as the two sides say in their back and forth here, what usually happens is you reach what they call accommodations on these things. you negotiate. we'll give you this. okay, thank you. now we want tha

>> it's a very strong pushback from pat sip loani who's the white house counsel to chairman cummins' demands on security clearance issues, and the white house counsel says that the committee has not established any legitimate legislative purpose for wanting all of these documents and siploni calls it unprecedented, extraordinarily intrusive and says the committee what it really wants to do is examine the entire investigative files of numerous individuals whom the president has chosen as his senior advisers. in other words, he's saying, you're going on a fishing expedition here and we're not going to let you do it because you haven't established a legislative reason that you actually need all of this information. >> what we're hearing, of course, from chairman cummins is that this is all about -- what this is about is separation of power? >> exactly. >> this is about congress doing its job. >> right. we just -- he says we have the authority to do this and that it defies the constitutional separation of powers as you were just saying and it also defies decades of precedent by the commi

in a letter, chairman cummins writes in part, i am now writing a final time to request -- easy for me to say -- request, voluntary cooperation with this investigation. i ask that you begin producing all responsive documents immediately and i request that you begin scheduling transcribed interviews with each witness identified by the committee. let's discuss this with someone who knows how the west wing operates from the inside, david axelrod. he's a political commentator and the host of cnn's "the axe files." welcome to you, sir. >> thanks, brooke. >> it is my understanding that this sort of thing where a president ignores advice from anyone around him and goes in and grants this, you know, security clearance, that this is never happened in the history of at least modern day presidency so says a guy -- an expert on security clearances that i talked to last hour. is this something that obama ever contemplated that you know of? >> not that i know of. if they had come to him, if the intel community, if his white house counsel had come to him and said, there are really serious concerns ab

we have elijah cummins who chaired that hearing with michael cohen the other day. he wants to talk about clearances, security clearances at the white house and we haven't even mentioned that, jared kushner, the president's son-in-law, of course, and close adviser leading his middle east peace initiative as well as other legislative initiatives now under scrutiny because it's reported by the "new york times" that the president interfered, overruled the intelligence kmu, his chief-of-staff, the top white house lawyer by granting that highest level clearance to his son-in-law jared kushner. >> is this the first time you ever used the word bovine excrement. >> reporter: i think so. >> mike viqueira there at the white house. >>> let's bring in the panel right now. cynthia oxny and danny cevallos. a.b. stotter is with us as well as kimberly atkins. so cynthia, let's start with you right now. the president has this to say about the firing of james comey. i want to get your take on the other side. >> when i fired comey, i said, you know, first lady, i said, melania, i'm do

what does it mean for government, have we been in a situation before work nick cummins decides it willl government policy and the government is still in office, it could carry on with this? governments face defeat quite often, they sometimes decide they will withhold bills and what is different now is that this is the only policy, it is the big thing the government is doing and we had that bizarre situation injanuary government is doing and we had that bizarre situation in january were government is doing and we had that bizarre situation injanuary were on one day the government went down to its biggest ever defeat on a significant issue, a total defeat normally that would be curtains for our government, they must lose a no—confidence motion but the next day parliament voted that although they hated the policy they had confidence in the prime minister, and you might see that again, it's a lwa ys and you might see that again, it's always possible that labour decides that maybe it lies another confidence motion and says the government cannot do this, that would be difficult with a short

chairman cummins coming back and saying this is about oversight, separation of powers, insert congressional duty here. with this latest reporting, what does that do to those requests? does it add any more meat to them or is it -- >> this is a preview. we'll see a lot of this over the coming months where one of the house committees requests documents, the white house -- one of the strategies seems to just stonewall. the response to the request about jared kushner was a string of technical style objections from the white house. the next step is are we going to see a subpoena? if we see a subpoena, then we'll see rubber meet the road then we'll be in court fighting over the scope of these requests and whether they can be compelled to turn them over. >> remind us who actually needs them. ivanka trump is a senior adviser in the white house. is that a position that would require security clearance at a very high level? >> not necessarily, but it all depends on the nature of your portfolios and your responsibility. jared kushner is obvious. with ivanka trump it's not quite clear what her portfolio

attorney bud cummins.his open warfare today between the prosecutor's office and the police. the police say you can't exonerate somebody after you're still saying that there's evidence that he lied and that he staged this attack. and for all we know, committed a felony that -- against a federal statute for which the fbi is still looking at him. >> yes. and i think that's an important point. number one, hey, i was a prosecutor, and in the universe of prosecutors, i'm kind of a lenient guyment i believe that there's a range of justice. i believe in resolving cases reasonably and allowing for human fallibility. this, this settlement of this case is a sham, and it's self-evident. in over 30 years of being around this business, i've never seen a case dismissed where the prosecutor's making statements as if the defendant had agreed to his guilt and had a agreed to do certain things, and the defendant's walking out the door maintaining his innocence and saying nasty things about the police -- david: well, it oppor

we'd love to hear from the president about it and i'll leave that to chairman cummins and on chairman nadler -- >> if it were up to you, would you call the president? >> let me make one point that causes me real doubt about the president's story right now. the president is obviously an extremely close contact with the republicans in congress and had suggested a whole line of questions for them to pose to michael cohen when he came there. it seems to me if it were true that michael cohen had gone to president trump to ask for a pardon before that testimony at some point or before he's pleading guilty, the president would have let the republicans know so they could have asked about it. it does seem one of these whimsical last minute presidential inventions. >> i know you're committee has attempted to get documents about security clearances at the white house. have you gotten your hands on any documents yet? >> i have not seen any yet, but this is something of intense concern to the oversight committee, to the judiciary committee and also i know to the intelligence committee, indeed to e

i think, again, chairman cummins is right on. we've got to follow the facts to the truth. is showing the american public that it's actually something we should do and since there's so many american who still doubt that, we just get control, we just get control of the house and we got control of the oversight functions. there's so much there, but i think we need to get obviously to the truth and we'll follow the facts to the truth and we have to do it in a way that the american public sees what's happening and trusts us that we're not being overly partisan. >> last question i was reading this morning. you were in college during watergate, is that correct? >> yeah. >> so as you were, you know, sitting there in the thick of this hearing and one of the ones asking the questions, i understand you were harkening back to your college days and actually watching the watergate hearings on television. what were you thinking? what were you feeling? what were the similarities for you? >> other than the difficulty admitting my age, what i was thinking is just for me personally being ten

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on the other, the result could be cummins gets control of the timetable, and that could be to convince. if the dup comes on board, he could be persuaded to back the deal. the noises from the dup don't sound so positive. in the house yesterday we had wilson saying theresa may was using scare tactics against them. let's not lose sight of the fact there were many outcomes here, including a general election if the government goes back into a position of having to push the brexit conversation in a way that does not support the conservative party manifesto. that could still occur. anna edwards in westminster. joining us now is james knightly, chief international economist at ing. also the head of rates and credit research at commerzbank is with us. thank you for being on the program. if we look at the eu side, the eu has shifted its tone on the prospect of a note yield brexit, saying it's getting likelier. is it? is.: i still don't think it all the options are on the table. theresa may is deal itself. the eu is obviously wanting to get the u.k. i think we are looking for a softer brexit, but

. >> before we go, both the house oversight chair elijah cummins has threatened to subpoena the white house if they don't turn over their documents regarding these security clearance. house intel chair adam schiff has raised huge alarms about these security clearances, the father-in-law, everything. if you were briefing these committees, what should they be asking jared kushner and should they subpoena him? >> so, first, i would say to them let's go beyond the memo written by mcgahn and kelly and let's go to the heart, let's get the fbi background investigation itself. let's find exactly what the intelligence concerns were that caused even the cia reportedly to this day to not give them the special compartmented clearance that gets him cia information, that's out there and let's get the whole report and then let's go more than that. let's look at the system that's broken that allows a president to override career professionals and investigators that client relationship on backgrounds came up even in the kavanaugh hearing, that needs to be looked at and changed, so that we put the deci

. >> two things, no doubt that what chairman cummins said is going to be true.h additional names from the people they call whether they testify or not or need to be subpoena. that's up in the air and the second thing, it's very clear right now that the only candidate that can defeat donald trump in 2020 is the southern district of new york and the newly elected attorney general of new york state. jonathan, i want to go back to you. i do want to h president? was there a number one takeaway problem that he'll have to deal with going forward? >> i think it is the various strands of the investigation or multiple investigations. donald trump is now like gull ver in gulliver's travel. you remember that picture of him where gulliver is strapped down where they have strings all over his body. he will not hear the end of this until he leaves office, even if he serves two terms, he will not get past this. this is what we understood from this week. there's just too many strands to this investigation. the one that interested me the most that i hadn't really heard about befo