approximate >> larry: the polls snow andrew cuomo did run, he's doing very well against you.oes that concern you? >> i have had to deal with $30 billion of reductions, tacking people, which i didn't want to do. people moving out of state because of the high taxes. canceling rebates on property taxes for people. cutting services that are vitally needed to try to keep the state solvent. and everyone in this country who's in charge right now is seeing their poll numbers dwindle. but when other candidates get in the races, they have to answer the same questions or propose how they would have managed differently, and then you see much tighter races. >> larry: the world is rudy guiliani will not run. is that what you hear? >> when i hear from it him, i will believe it. >> larry: do you expect lazzio to be a tough opponent? >> i think he's a worthy candidate, and he was a good congressman when he was in new york. but i do appreciate that he said in public, i managed this crisis when the state has run out of the cash well. as a person that wants to be governor, for him to say that i