la curia va ti cana estÁ llena de personas, de colaboradores cercanos del papa, muchos de ellos estÁncho muchos aÑos, algunos incluso en Óptica de carrera de poder no. en este sentido, se considera que ahora el papa francisco reformarÁ la iglesia como fue francisco de asÍs. >>> muchos fieles se preguntan bueno en realidad el tema de la reforma de la curia no sÉ que impacta tendrÁ en el pueblo es algo necesario a nivel de gobierno y el vaticano, para el pueb pueblo quÉ se va a ser, el tuvo un gesto especial cuan, cuando o el cardenal bernard law viviendo en santa marÍa y se molestÓ porque no quiere que viva ahÍ y que lo inventÓ rÍa mÁs adelante a una vida de espiritualidad >>> separarlo >>> serÁ que veremos a un papa que sea digamos, en ese sentido ofensivo en el mejor sentido de la palabra en contra >>> proactivo >>> en contra de este tipo de situaciones >>> se lee que es un hombre de gobierno no solamente un hombre que estÉ leyendo la situaciÓn, con una Óptica de fe. pero tambiÉn creo que viene en un momento en el que va a buscar la unidad y la coentre los obis iglesia, hemos vivido

is he a puppet of the curia? no. is he puppet of the reformers? no.standing he is his own man, advisor, after advisor here said to us he is a humble man of god. he's described as a saint type of person. maybe that's what the church needs. >> kimberly: it sounds like someone both sides could trust and safe and confidence, and ability to lead with humility and self-sacrifice not trying to promote one side over the other. >> eric: the white smoke came up after five votes. people here said it must be the odds-on favorite, cardinal from italy, from milan. >> that's what we said, too. >> eric: right. any surprise -- you shocked to see the name come up? >> a book of all the papers we have been going through. here it is. these are the blue cards on all the people on whom i have been studying. with all about them and how they ruled and what they have done with people. he was number eight on a list of i think 17. no one said watch for this one, watch for that one. it was a surprise. one thing we were watching will they go with someone who is a social reformer?

get rid of the curia and go back to that can too and gets some bishops working with him and make the curia what it should be is the civil service the secretaries of the church now if that's not done he won't go anywhere so as far as women's ordination is concerned come to that later but he i don't know what the others feel but i feel that really strongly we've got to do that i mean he's got to develop the greater the importance of the local churches he's talked about bishops and the importance of the bishops and they've got to make . but the authority that has been taken away from them because we have an over centralized power food church you cannot make decisions in rome on people who live the other side of the world live very differently because everything has to be in its context or you come for example to talk to europe about some you can't today women just to take that because europe is ready for it but some of the other countries like quite understand that so we can all change at the same time so for me the first thing i should see is who is he going to appoint what's he going

many people think the curia, the bureaucracy, needs a lot of change and a lot of reform.s he tough enough to bring that about? >> i can say as a jesuit and having heard from my jesuit brothers what he was like as the provincial or regional superior of argentina, he is certainly a man who can make tough decisions. he is definitely not afraid to ruffle feathers. and so, for those people who are asking does he have a backbone, the answer is yes. so he may be the very guy to come in and reform a lot of the problems that are going on in the vatican curia right now. and that may be one thing that the cardinals saw that led to his election. >> and, very quickly, the sex abuse scandal and cover-ups seem to continue indefinitely. do you think there's something that a new pope, this pope, can do to kind of get over that? >> well, i think that's the number one problem facing the church, frankly. we can't preach the gospel if people see us as not addressing those problems. so one of the things he can do is follow the pattern of the u.s. bishops in terms of putting in safe environment

vatican bureaucracy known as the roman curia needs to be overhauled. can say mismanagement has plagued it. we had the butler stealing documents. we have had miscommunications between different departments. i think he will be forth right in defending the right of the faithful against predatory priests to eliminate the problem completely from the church. it is also going to propose a challenge to the world. we live in a secularized society in the west. by his example and by the name francis he is reminding us true joy in life does not come from wealth and riches but comes from serving god and serving our neighbor. >> bret: father gerald murray, thank you for your time. we'll be continuing this story throughout the show. >> thank you, bret. >> bret: just in a bit we'll talk to cardinal from washington, d.c. in rome. inside the conclave and he will join us live as well. social media, as you may imagine all over the pope's story. twitter reports 130,000 tweets per minute. following pope francis' introduction with 6 million tweets so far that referenced the

. >>> qué significa el hecho qe se haya elegido alguien fuera de la curia romana. >>> podría limipiarsa? >>> ya empezó! >>> dice no a la vestimenta papal tradicional, sólo sale con la cvestimenta, no acepta el crucifijo de oro, sino uno de

. >> no sÉ si el protocolo de la c curia se imponga o no, pero al p p parp papa nadie lo manda. >> Éla dio gracias por la cena, rezooÓ y que pase buena n noches y que dios los perodone e era su despedida, era por la l falta que nosotros habiÍamos o cometido, nos reiÍmos todos. >> fue el ultÚltimo cÓnclave p d don juan, que por edad serÁ r i retirado. >> estando bien con el de arr arriba, no hay pendiente nibn o ninguno. >> es facinanscinante la histor como lelegael pafpa francisco Íi al vaticano uy nos da miuuestr q que es un papa distinto. >> estaba listo el vaticano uno y dijo, kon¿dÓnde estÁn mis h s hermanos cardenales? en el ca o camioncito, no, no, yho mo me c con ellos. >> asÍ mismo, pero ademÁs, ¿quÉ ves en esta foto?. >> Él va en la serggunda hiler no va a adelante, es que dentro de4l vl vaticano ndicen que no usar el elvadoelevador soldolor. >> vino acÁ donde Él estuvo h p hospedado como cardenal. >> ¿quÉ comparacioomparaciÓn l otros papas?. ,>> sÍ, esta haciuendo endo c e diferentes, es que nos hace s sentir que todos somos parte de la iglesia, pero la memoria es i inbgrgra

they want someone who can take charge of the curia.francis indicated in the past when he was the cardinal and archbishop of buenos aires he thought there was a lot of room for improvement in the curia. >> megyn: what is man he is. as you look at his background and hear how many times he rejected the trappings of power. >> he's a jesuit, not necessarily expected to be humble as a jesuit, but he has very much shown that all through his career. he refuses to live in the cardinal's palace. he takes the bus to work. he's mobbed by fans when he does so. he has always said that he is simply a man doing the will of god. >> megyn: does his own cooking. >> he does his own cooking. he's very strong on moral positions of the church and shows no yield, yet has gone to an aides hospice to watch the feet of the victims. >> he's described as someone who is compassionate and conservative. they use them different in the church than we do politically. he's been praised by some for holding the line against attempts to assume more liberal positions in cert

. >>> muchos fieles se preguntan bueno en realidad el tema de la reforma de la curia no sÉ que impactaÁ en el pueblo es algo necesario a nivel de gobierno y el vaticano, para el pueb pueblo quÉ se va a ser, el tuvo un gesto especial cuan, cuando o el cardenal bernard law viviendo en santa marÍa y se molestÓ porque no quiere que viva ahÍ y que lo inventÓ rÍa mÁs adelante a una vida de espiritualidad >>> separarlo >>> serÁ que veremos a un papa que sea digamos, en ese sentido

that the functioning on the day-to-day basis of the roman curia needs to be improved. a lot of other areas in which the church could do a better job in articulating the message. so the cardinals all last week were talking about that and i think whoever walks out on that balcony is going to walk out with the mandate from his brother cardinals, as well as their collaboration in trying to address these issues to bring the church up to shape and up to strength. >> megyn: what would be the argument for going with someone as you say, inside the curia. i can see the argument going with somebody on the outside and the not going with anyone connected to the vatican bank scandal and others they've suffered, but what's the argument for going with someone inside that circle. >> if the cardinals elect to vote someone presently a member of the curia, the reason for that, they believe that he has the inside knowledge and the will and the courage to be able to reform it from within. if you were to take somebody who has no experience of the roman curia it might be a little bit harder t

the curia is filled with many interesting people. popes always bring in new people but i have a feeling that the people who are greeting the pope tonight are very pleased to have this man as pope. >> shepard: with the overriding function of the church to spread the gospel, and to bring people to christ, is this man -- well, he has a daunting task ahead, but -- >> start with the name he picked. saint francis, probably the most beloved saint in the world, a model and inspiration not only for franciscans but every catholic. noncatholics love saint francis. i think there's going to be a speer of love surrounding the pope. i think he'll do a great job. >> shepard: thank you so much. we'll have continuing coverage through the afternoon and evening here on fox news. i'll be back with you tonight at 7:00 eastern, 4:00 pacific. for all of us in rome, thank you. here's cavuto. >>> seven years ago he was the main challenger to the man who would become known as pope benedict xvi. today he game his successor. and today, he chose the name francis.

the curia's candidates, and at some point you get to 77. take? well, it just depends on how things go if there, and since we're probably never going to know, we'll just know there's white smoke or black smoke. if there's smoke today, it's sometime between now and three or so eastern time, and most likely that's black smoke, and they'll start again in the morning. what happens between that time and in the morning, again, is behind closed doors. it's not going to go on forever as it did, whatever, a couple hundred years ago, but it could take a little time. there is division, and i don't mean to suggest that there's division in any way except to say that this is the way we believe this massive organization should go forward. and there are two camps. they're not specifically defined as two camps, but in general terms there are two camps. we've got to clean this up, clean it up fast, and the other side seems to be saying we can work this out, we can work this out. let's keep it tight. the reformers would suggest keeping it fight hasn't worked.

encontrar al hombre que tenga que ser como un cirquero un malabarista, tener la reforma, entender a la curiaiva la fe en los que la perdieron. >>> no siempre pedimos lo mismo, que sean modernistas, los cambios, que mantengan la doctrina, y millones de feligrees unidos. estamos pidiendo de un papa, alguien absolutamente humano, cosas de superman. >>> por quÉ se lo pedimos a una sola persona, por quÉ no se democratiza la iglesia? y deja de ser una monarquÍa. un historiador decÍa que es un acÉrrimo autor de la biografÍa de benedicto xvi, dijo que es necesario que se democratice, y no se recaiga en una persona. a lo mejor buscamose a alguien como juan padre ii, y alguien como un buen equilibrista que se modernice, y no pierda la esencia. >>> no es la misma idea de democratizar la iglesia catÓl a catÓlica, no es absolutamente una revolucionario, un lÍder tiene el poder ejecutivo. legislatito judicial, y asia fue siempre. >>> serÍa dificil que cambie, se tiene que citar a un nuevo concilio vaticano segundo, el prÓximo serÍa en el 2050 y 60, se dieron cambios fundamentales, misas a fieles. las muje

the roman-based cardinals are reportedly backing scherer, although he's well known within the curia and is on the commission which oversees the vatican bank. on the other side of the ledger is cardinal angelo scola. although he's italian, he's based in milan and he's somebody that would clean out many of the roman insiders. if either of those names should falter, experts say there is a real possibility an american could rise to the top. boston cardinal shaun o'malley and new york cardinal timothy dolan are the u.s. papal contenders. they've been careful to create a list of criteria, what they're looking for. really what it comes down to is do they want a pastoral leader someone who's charismatic, who can bring people into the church, or someone who is managerial who can clean out the church after all the sex abuse scandals and bureaucracy issues. reporting live in vatican city, vinita nair. back to you, anne-marie. >> the world is watching. thank you very much. >>> the united states and korea begin their annual war. the military drills last for 11 days. south korean activists ripped up

seems to be shaping up like a the bale between supporters of the vatican bureaucracy known as the curia and outsiders who want reform. the roman-based cardinals are reportedly backing the archbishop of sao paulo although known in the curia and on the commission which oversees the vatican bank. on the other side of the ledger is cardinal angelo scola, although he is italian, he is based in the law and is considered somewhat who would clean out many of the roman insiders. if either of those names should falter, experts say there is a real possibility an american could rise to the top. boston cardinal sean o'malley and new york cardinal timothy dolan are the leading u.s. papal contenders. vinita nair, cbs news, vatican city. >> that conclave will begin tomorrow morning with mass. this is a live picture of vatican city. the cardinals will vote tomorrow afternoon. and just a note, "cbs this morning" broadcasting live from vatican city beginning today all week long. >>> today is the second anniversary of the 9.0 magnitude earthquake and tsunami that killed nearly 19,000 people in japan. 300,0

francisco dio su primer misa, el lo hizo en italiano, cambiando una tradicion significa que el no es de la curiafue escogido por los otros cardenales, sabemos que solo tiene un pulmon, que tuvo novia, que en un momento dado penso en casarse, sabemos que a sus 76 años fue designado por juan pablo segundo es tradicionalista, no cree en matrimonio del mismo sexo y no se sabe que va ahacer con los miles de casos de abuso sexual, que se hara con los casos. >>> este es el primer día del primer papa latino americano. >>> de ahi desde el vaticano vamos a la capital argentina. >>> gracias buenas noches, muchos quieren saber quien es el, es uno de los cinco hijos de un trabajador italiano, nacio en buenos aires, es tecnico quimico pero se dio cuenta de su vocacion. >>> las reacciones en su pueblo natal. >>> ella con la foto del papa se paro en el lugar de nacimiento. >>> para mi este lugar pasa a ser el lugar sagrado, aquí nacio quien nos guiara. >>> en el barrio de flores en buenos aires afloran recuerdo de francisco. >>> imaginate que entre ellos se hacian travesuras. >>> la anecdota dice que jugando a

, and what we heard from the cardinals was that the foreign cardinals, those who don't work in the curiaey're not part of the vatican specifically, wanted time to talk. big issues on the table. fiduciary responsibility, money issues, how to deal with the sex scandals of the church. big issues. now we're told the cardinals are all ready. so the voting will begin. the difficult question is, of course, how do you pick a pope when you're sworn to not be ambitious. when you're not supposed to seek to be the leader. how do you do that? let's go to miguel marquez, he's been moderating this, as they say in italian, the cells of storm. dealing with the moderate weather and now how to pick a pope. miguel? >> reporter: yes, there's one more thing on the plate today. rain, hail, sleet, we're getting through all of it today, it seems. look, this is the biggest decision that any of these cardinals will probably make. anybody that we talked to across the board say the catholic church is in crisis. it needs a strong leader to reunify the church. the next pope, it is expected, will be the most vetted eve

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and words like curia come directly from the roman empire. word for governance. so this is an opposition dogma. it's very, very dangerous. dogma divides. dogma makes people argue. dogma is nationalistic. we've had arguments on dogma that led to the separation of the greek church and the roman church over things that were absolutely ridiculous. the holy spirit proceed from the father and the son. the greek saying no it proceeds only from the father. that argument led to the separation of the two churches in 1054 and they are still separate over a dogmatic issue. >> it's a powerful force in latin america. and does provide this challenge. it begins to create tremendous conflict and tensions within the church, right, because there is -- it is viewed with some skepticism by the church hierarchy. >> exactly. think about it in two ways. i was thinking about the great jesuit general who said we have move to with the people. and gutierrez who continues to outline this liberation theology. in the '70s and '80s you have people saying we'll be out here w

. >> and cardinal scola out of milan, he is italian, but not part of the curia. why he would be someone, a contender more considered, because he's outside of the curia, but inside italy? >> well, he is. and you know, basically, the college of cardinals has broken into two camps from what we understand. the old guard, if you will, those who want to keep things the way they are, those would be the members of the curia, and the reformers. and most of the american cardinals fall into that reformer group. but, you know, at this point, thomas, it's anybody's guess, who's going to emerge out on that balcony. because i can't recall a situation that has ever been this fluid. every single day, somebody is up, somebody is down. new names get mentioned and it really is, at this point, impossible to predict. >> and weather wise, we see you with the big umbrella, what's the weather forecast, anne? it looks a little miserable. >> reporter: oh, my gosh, it's been miserable. we've seen thunder, lightning, hail today biblical rains. it is chilly in rome and it's really a thoroughl

would mean that the front runners, this would be the cardinal from milan who is not a part of the curiaalian, and the cardinal from brazil, who was formerly a part of the curia who speaks italian of german descent and represents the global south where the church is growing the most, those two leading candidates if he ne don't emerge quickly, one or the other, that would mean it's opened to the field and then i think we could potentially be in for some surprises, but you know, everyone is reading tea leaves, no one knows for sure, but certainly, they are, i would say they're, you know, general consensus that they are the two frontrunners at this point. >> megyn: what do you make of the fact that they did vote and that they did not come to an agreement? i mean, is it true as it was suggested to us yesterday, that sometimes the first vote is a bit more ceremonial. done to honor someone inside that conclave? >> you know, thats was the case last time, if i am remembering correctly, that there is a sort of ceremonial, just sort of everyone, everyone cast as ballot and they don't expect to rea

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the things we learned in reporting here is that when the foreigners came, cardinals outside of the curia, they were unusually resistant to moving thing as long. and pope benedict issued a decree that you could make the conclave as soon as you wanted, you don't have to wait the normal period, because there is no funeral, and they wanted the time to meet, to get to know each other, get through the novel issues for the church to face. this may last longer than it took to pick joseph ratzinger. they may need the time. >> they have to pick the right person, and they have to take into account the sexual abuse that's gone on and make sure the next pope is a better ambassador than perhaps pope benedict was, right? young and vibrant and able to connect with young catholics. >> absolutely. and we know this. we know he's one of the men in the room, right? one of the 115 cardinals. he doesn't have to be. could have to pick somebody to be over 80 years of age and not a cardinal at all. in all reality, it will be one of the younger cardinals who is won of the election fors and some suggest a pope alon

los 115 cardenales estÁn descansando contra noche, la curia prefiere que la run no reuniÓn reunion noicto sin claro favorito y pudiera dar sorpresas veamos. >>> en la capilla sixtina bajo el juicio final, con el tiempo que corre para la iglesia catÓlica se celebro la primera votaciÓn del con queÓnclave con resultado negativo >>> la iglesia quiere que sea un cÓnclave corto. >>> son 115 los cardenales lectores procedentes de 50 paÍses, divididos para anunciar al papa 216 de la liso trahisto >>> si el jueves tenemos fumata negra tendremos pelea allÁ adentro >>> serÁ 2 vo ttaciones una en dÍa y otra en la noche la fumata, mientras pronuncia la frase "llamo como testigo a cristo jesÚs". es una formula que busca au lleno ter l ahuyentar las especulaciones, luego estos papeles los queman y sÍ hay papa one gran si no se llega a un acuerdo negra si no llega a un acuerdo ahora exigieron al mismo tiempo que los cardenales eligen al prÓxfÁ. >>> sea para apoyarlo o para reclamarles cambios al prÓximo papa, todos los sectores del chris ta ni cristianismo estÁn atentos a lo que ocurre en la capilla

a member of the curia, who run the daily affairs of the church. >> reporter: as the world looked into his eyes and tried to read him, most saw his affirmation as conservative. he most likely won't be a liberalizing leader. today he spoke modestly of his own abilities. >> the cardinals have elected me a symbol, humble worker in the vineyard of the lord. >> reporter: president bush joined other world leaders in welcoming the pope. >> laura and i offer our congratulations to pope benedict xvi. he's a man of great wisdom and knowledge he's a man who serves the lord. and we remember well a sermon at the pope's funeral in rome how his words touched our hearts and the hearts of millions. >> the new faces enormous challenges. a crippling short of of priest, disappearing congregations. born again christian movements in strongholds such as latin american and the it was clear from the joyful crowds that benedict 16 at least for now is riding his own wave of good will. >> bob mackenzie takes a look at the life of john paul ii. [ male announcer ] fact: the 100% electric nissan leaf... is more fun

a member of the curia, who run the daily affairs of the church. >> reporter: as the world looked into his eyes and tried to read him, most saw his affirmation as conservative. he most likely won't be a liberalizing leader. today he spoke modestly of his own abilities. >> the cardinals have elected me a symbol, humble worker in the vineyard of the lord. >> reporter: president bush joined other world leaders in welcoming the pope. >> laura and i offer our congratulations to pope benedict xvi. he's a man of great wisdom and knowledge he's a man who serves the lord. and we remember well a sermon at the pope's funeral in rome how his words touched our hearts and the hearts of millions. >> the new faces enormous challenges. a crippling short of of priest, disappearing congregations. born again christian movements in strongholds such as latin american and the it was clear from the joyful crowds that benedict 16 at least for now is riding his own wave of good will. >> bob mackenzie takes a look at the life of john paul ii. [ male announcer ] fact: the 100% electric nissan leaf... is more fun

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the very fact the curia as it's called has raised the possibility a nonromon church, might be a better possibility. >> more than previously, geography counts. >> i'm anxious to get going. tuesday will be break. thank god. >> even after a week of meetings, there are still no front runner amoongst the cardinals. vatican insiders like marco paliti say the cardinals say the secret see is seek see is part of the problem -- secracy is part of the problem. >> it's become a thought of control. >> until this conclave, the idea of an american pope would have been dismissed as wishful thinking, but the church has been so rocked by the papal resignation and scandal that the old understandings no longer apply. this time, anything could happen. mark phillips, cbs news, vatican city. >>> and cardinals will meet one more time to discuss the qualities they want in a new pope. no conclave has lasted more than five days. >>> new at ten a firery finale in the celebration of a new explaroritorium. >> along the exhibits was a giant oct pus that octopus that shoots fire. it was originally created for the bur

a la curia rorm na el nuevo papa se le saliÓ del libreto. francisco, el papa fran zifb.ano para ir a rezar y luego fue el mismo a pagar una cuenta pendiente. >>> su primera misa da muestras de un pontificado menos pomposo. hubo sencillez en la vestimenta papal y en su homilÍa, dijo que si la iglesia no deja atrÁs la sofisticaciÓn. se convertirÁ en otra cosa. >>> mientras en argentina, siguen celebrando al papa bergoglio. excepto quienes cuestionan su actuaciÓn en la dictadura militar y su postura conserva dora. >>> hablamos con un taxista que prestÓ servicios al cardenal bergoglio, no imaginÓ que aquel pasajero. terminarÍa siendo, el nuevo papa. comenzamos. >>> este es su noticiero univisiÓn con marÍa elena salinas desde buenos aires. y jorge ramos desde el vaticano. en el primer dÍa de actividades del papa francisco. >>> hola que tal, buenas noches, desde el vaticano estamos aquÍ, porque la noticia es que hoy fue el primer dÍa de el primer papa argentino. marÍa elena. >>> que tal jorge, muy buenas noches, de la ciudad de buenos aires, ciudad natal del nuevo papa francis

. >> eric: he has the challenge of potentially trying to reform the curia. ambass do, you were the mayor of boston for many years. as a mayor, what does he do as a -- an executive? how can he change the bureaucracy, as you dealt with every day, in dealing with city agencies? >> there's the number-1 question you just asked. you can't do it inside, eric. you have to have an outsider, a reformist. somebody who looks at a problem and brings a new dimension, new ideas, a new focus to that problem. can taken the be done by the status quo. at least from my experience in 40 years of politics. that's why i thought it was so refreshing that the college of cardinals reached outside of the conclave, outside of the roman curia to bring in somebody from benes aires, i suggest he wasn't even a candidate. he certainly wasn't mentioned as a viable candidate. he is coming in. and he will be able to look at the problem objectively, make the changes that are needed, make the changes that can form to the changing church, the changing culture. i think it's a great message. you ne

one is to put a management team in place, so to speak, to make some changes probably, even in the curia, and put people in whom he trusts and who will make some changes in those structures and maybe even more transparency in the roman structure. you know, who would want this job? we wonder. we're saying my goodness, it's not an easy task. he's coming in at a very difficult time. this is not coming in when things are smooth so he can make a big difference in a short period of time potentially. and part of that would be by what kind of management structure and with whom he surrounds himself to manage the affairs of the vatican. >> suarez: but that's a tough thing when you're coming in from the outside, isn't it? >> it is extremely difficult coming from the outside. but the thing that he brings, it appears, is a sense of humility, a sense of humor-- which is wonderful-- and the capacity to welcome in everyone to the center. and i think it's that capacity to welcome people in that will allow him to form a management team that can do something different. he comes from a democratic country wh

the brief filed, and i quote, for the attorney general and for the united states as the amicus curiae, goes to great lengths house speech and money are interchangeable and it surely would violate the first amendment to set a limit on how much "the new york times" could charge for paper and why there for there were serious problems of the contribution and expenditure limits in the statute. next time somebody tells you that a contribution or expenditure limits for an election is just about money and that money is not speak you should reply that "new york times" against sullivan was just a case for tort damages, that the naacp was just a case about money for economic injury to businesses and that the alien and sedition act were just lost about imprisonment. and note by the way "the new york times" as a corporation and therefore according to its own editorial policy was on the wrong side of "the new york times" corporation and has no rights under the first amendment and you should note that most churches also assist in the corporate farms. but the brief didn't say that final line and ther

people saw this election-- whoever was elected pope-- as a defining moment of the power of the roman curia and the papacy. that have, in fact, there were many people in the church and outside of rome who said too much power in rome. we need to rein it in and decentralize. what does this pontiff mean for that question? >> well, if that question is answered already by the second vatican council which is a council of collaboration i think you will find this man -- a man at the second vatican council as we're all supposed to be. >> rose: does the church need a third vatican council in. >> that's not for me to say. i'm retired. (laughs) >> rose: but let me just stay with this. clearly the choices here were between reform and pra tradition and clearly the church has to face -- and there's been a feeling at least as a non-catholic that i had here knowing you and many other people that the church understood its problems. this was not a people who came in here without an aware ens that they had to challenge these issues. >> that's very true. so that's doctrine and also membership but there is this

sot "la curia de la iglesia católica controla solo administrativament e la iglesia católica".clave, se destruye la boleta de cada cardenal. sot "ellos queman esos papeles para que nadie sepa afuera del conclave, quienes otras mas hombres o cardenales recibieron votos". cuando al final se ha elegido un papa, se agrega paja mojada a las boletas creando humo blanco y la multud reunida en la plaza de san pedro exclama en latin, "habemus papa" o tenemos papa. blanca ---los californianos consideran que la situacion economica se mantiene sin mejorar por sexto aÑo consecutivo. take vo ---asi lo dio a conocer la mas reciente encuesta realizada en el estado. ---un 61 por ciento de los encuestados dijo que el desempleo es un preocupacion muy seria mientras que un 62 por ciento cree el problema laboral no mejora e incluso ha empeorado. ---el 44 por ciento de los encuestados dijo que su economia personal es critica... un 30 por ciento dijo que ha mejorado y un 26 por ciento que no ha cambiado. take vo cesar ---preparese a pagar mas por la gasolina... ya que los reguladores estatales aproba

. >> the thinking going is they would choose someone of the curia, of the administration an insider, or someone from the outside. if those are the two categories he fits into neither. >> no, he's a saint. he's a holy man. he's a jesuit and this is the first time in centuries -- i don't know that i have to check this but he's well-educated. he's got a powerful mind and he's a humble and steady man. that's the key thing about him. >> shepard: what does this mean for latin america and for the church in latin america? this is a development for which so many in latin america have prayed. >> this means the entire world can rejoice that the half of the world's catholic population produced a man who will lead the church. who will be peter. this is important to remember, the man has three names. born with his baptismal name jorge. then he has to pick a name for pope. we'll hear that in just a moment. he's also going to be peter the successor of benedict and he will be the successor of peter. >> shepard: cardinal jorge mario bergoglio. of the next pope. >> i was in the press office this aftern

. >> the thinking going is they would choose someone of the curia, of the administration, an insider, or someone from the outside. if those are the two categories, he fits into neither. >> no, he's a saint. he's a holy man. he's a jesuit and this is the first time in centuries -- i don't know that i have to check this, but he's well-educated. he's got a powerful mind and he's a humble and steady man. that's the key thing about him. >> shepard: what does this mean for latin america and for the church in latin america? this is a development for which so many in latin america have prayed. >> this means the entire world can rejoice that the half of the world's catholic population produced a man who will lead the church. who will be peter. this is important to remember, the man has three names. born with his baptismal name, jorge. then he has to pick a name for pope. we'll hear that in just a moment. he's also going to be peter, the successor of benedict and he will be the successor of peter. >> shepard: cardinal jorge mario bergoglio. of the next pope. >> i was in the press office this af

. >>> qué significa el hecho qe se haya elegido alguien fuera de la curia romana. >>> podría limipiarenta, no acepta el crucifijo de oro, sino uno de hierro y cuando temrina la ceremonia dice bonacera. >>> empezó lléndose en un auto con todos los cardenales. >>> es otro pontífice. y el plan de reunirse con benedicto xvi. y esto genera una serie de conflictos y negociaciones. >>> empezarán por el documento secreto realizado por 3 cardenales. este archivo está en una caja de seguridad y ahor alo podrá leer. >>> habemmus papam! totalmente diferente al de benedicto xvi, o jaun pablo ii, dijo: mis compañeros cardenales fueron a buscar a un papa al fin del mundo. >>> todo lo que haga papa, francisco i, será simbólico, esperamos que hable español y todo estomarca una pauta de cómo será su pontificado. >>> es la voz del que vino de afuera. >>> es un hombre enterado de la realidad. >>> muchas gracias por el informe desde el vaticano. >>> si bien, en latinoamerica están contentos, en argentina, el entusiasmo es aún mayor. >>> vamos con el reporte. >>> buenos días y amanece en buenos aires y los

. >>> how much about the corruption of the vatican bank and mismanagement by the curiae should be an, as the italians and europeans have the largest voting bloc? many people would think there would not be reform. >> it depends on who you choose. there are some real insiders, entrenched bureaucracy in the curiae, and even others say this organization is dysfunctional. those who are deeply ensconced in that system don't want that person, even if it's an italian. they don't want them to do reforms or change things, so there's a split among the italian cardinals. sometimes maybe one is more like an outsider, saying we need to clean things up. >>> the longer it guess, the more an unexpected choice. >> if it goes more than three days, clearly they're having difficulty at least agreeing on the right person. that would mean that all bets are off on kind of the front-runners right from the beginning. i don't think that will happen. i think by tomorrow we'll have a pope, if not by the end of day. >> dean gillis, thank you so much for your expertise. >>> coming up mall lynn albright on the late

being supported by those inside the curia.him? i'm hearing he's actually kind of losing momentum. >> well, he, of course, is someone who actually worked in the curia. not in a very high position. it was a low position in the congregation for bishops. then he went back to brazil and became the archbishop and cardinal. he has a little bit of knowledge of the vatican and some people think, well, he'll work with the people who are there. but on the other hand, he might have the knowledge, the inside knowledge to be able to go in and clean it up. so he might appeal to both sides on this. >> very interesting compromise candidate could be cardinal of hungary. it's not servicing too much, but you say he's a very interesting character. >> he's a very interesting bishop. because he became a bishop at a very young age and not only that, but he was elected the president of the european bishops conference. so he's got backing from all of these bishops in europe and cardinals who respect him and like him. you know, his major handicap is he'

i think he will take in hand the reform of the roman curiae.is own simplicity, austerity, and gentleness, i think, will make him a man who can put the church on the road to a new evangelization in the future. this is not an institutional maintenance guy. he comes from a country where the church has had to learn how to be missionary again. i think he wants the entire church to learn from that experience. >> we came close, had real discussions of the first ever african, the first ever american. this is the first ever noneuropean. so certainly this is a history making choice. and personality, as we saw with john paul ii, means a lot. he appears to have instant warmth with the people there today. >> he is a very, very warm gentleman. i spent an hour with him in buenos aires last may. i was touched by his intelligence. by his manifestly deep interior life, his spiritual life. got a very clear-eyed view of the troubled politics of his own country. and he's been through a lot of sorrow in his own life. so i think this is a man who brings a full packag