and lapwing are testing birds including curlew and la pwing are utmost testing birds including curlewnd withdrew the licences, when we put in our application for judicial review we suggested the license was continued until the end of next year and that would give natural england nine months to look at how they would change it so it could be implemented legally next year. we weren‘t part and parcel of that decision to remove the licences at all. we were merely doing our duty as conservationists to raise this issue. so we could better protect birds which were being needlessly killed, let‘s stress that, needlessly killed, not birds which we re needlessly killed, not birds which were doing damage to any crops. final thought, a number of people a lwa ys final thought, a number of people always ask, how are you as a bbc television presenter able to work with certain campaigns and publicly state your views in a way other hosts aren‘t allowed to? state your views in a way other hosts aren't allowed to? i'm not strictly a bbc tv presenter, i work on the bbc presented at times, i‘m not a bbc em

birds such as curlew, short—eared owl, definitely looking to nest.been burnt, effectively. but it's notjust birds, it's small mammals as well. larger mammals such as mountain hares have certainly been impacted. i was watching this earlier and the flames move at such a speed, it's frightening. there's no doubt small mammals and hares would not have avoided being killed. a lot of money, a lot of investment has gone into this area as well. and it's not, as we mentioned earlier, this is not the first fire you have had here at marsden, so how does this make you feel? we've been working with yorkshire water and moors for the future for many years, investing millions together to restore this landscape. this year, we've seen six wildfires, which is very unusual. but maybe we shouldn't be too surprised because for several months now, we've hardly seen any rainfall, which makes this landscape very dry indeed. craig, thank you very much forjoining us. of course, the message from the national trust this evening is to say to people if they are coming to enjoy the

birds such as curlew, short—eared owl, definitely looking to nest.eggs on the ground that have been burnt, effectively. but it's notjust birds, it's small mammals as well. larger mammals such as hares have certainly been impacted. i was watching this earlier and the flames move at such a speed, it's frightening. there's no doubt that small mammals and hares would not have avoided being killed. a lot of money, a lot of investment has gone into this area as well, and it's not, as we mentioned earlier, this is not the first fire you have had here at marsden, so how does this make you feel? we've been working with yorkshire water and moors for the future for many years, investing millions together to restore this landscape. this year, we've seen six wildfires, which is very unusual. but maybe we shouldn't be too surprised because for several months now, we've hardly seen any rainfall, which makes this landscape very dry indeed. craig, thank you very much forjoining us. of course, the message from the national trust this evening is to say to people if the