former mlb pitcher curt schilling. before we get to the lincoln deal.ey don't want the indians and the team doesn't want it, i'm okay with that. but i always thought it was an honor. it tells you about valor, ferocity, a warrors spirit. apache and the sioux, these guys struck fear in the heart of the pioneers and did some vicious things. we did vicious things back. but these were great warriors. they have cowboys and the pirates. i just don't get it. >> the indians are the latest victim. i guess what i'm waiting for now is peta. cardinals, cubs, blue jays, orioles, and i'm assuming other animals are going to file suit because -- i'm with you. i always thought that especially naming a fran chase after something was a proud thing, a good thing. apparently saying the word indian makes you what is it, native-phobic? i don't know. jesse: it is a little ridiculous. >> it's beyond ridiculous. i'm incredibly prude of what you have managed to do since you were walking campuses on this nation and i had to listen to college students with degrees say really dumb st