kimberly hallett, with the latest reaction there from the white house is now bringing curt volker, who served alongside secretary of state colin powell during the george w bush administration. ambassador, vocally to became the u. s. ambassador to nato. he's joining us from washington, d. c. thank you very much for your time ambassador. okay, thank you for taking the time to speak to us today. i compile is being praised as one of the most respected public figures in american public life. just reflect on the general power that you knew 1st. what did he value the most? well, he was the 1st and foremost, always a gentleman, as was just certain that last bit in the news piece. he treat everyone with respect to g melody decency. he would listen to every one. he was never one who was losing his temper or dictating, changed. he was truly a gentle man and a pleasure to work with. he was posted to, to nato several times during his military career at a time when there was a lot of talk about nato expansion and bringing some former soviet countries into natal. how. how did he feel about that? well