>> could you characterize his relationship with curtis lamae, their working relationship? >> well, that was interesting. i knew him, wish we would have talked more about hap, but he was somebody with a reputation, well, he had a lot -- there were a lot of elements to the complex reputation, but he had a reputation among other things as somebody who got things done, and that's how he ended up running the b29 operation out in the marianas, and an interesting thing about the air force that the operation of the b29 was while all the other numbered air force, each had a commander, a commander of the 20 #th air force was hap. he maintained personal command of that but his field commander was curtis, and when it came time to -- when hap and don douglas started rand, one of the guys they brought in as the group to start rand was crore -- curtis, so he had a respect for the ability to cut through the crap and get things done. >> okay. well, thank you again. [applause] for presenting today as well as arian in the and his wife. we have the books available in the gift shop, and sure h