for more i'm pleased to be joined by curtis morrison, who made the mcconnell tape.or joining us. >> good evening, thank you. >> cenk: why did you decide to make this recording and let our viewers know how you went about doing it. >> i first decided to make the recording because i had the opportunity. i was walking down the hallway of a public office building where his headquarters was and when i was passing his office, his new headquarters i could hear him how he was going to exploit the tea party get their vote just like rand paul did. when i heard him say that, i thought this is a conversation that the public ought to know about to make better decisions. i had my flip camera, turned it on and also turned on the cell phone to make sure i had back up. >> john: were you offended by what you heard understanding what you heard was being said in private behind closed doors. >> i was very offended. mostly on the two issues that ashley judd's mental health, because i've struggled with depression but that does not make me unique. i think most people have struggled with dep

. >> curtis morrison joins me now to talk about this. and explain first of all why the decision to come forward like you did on friday? >> thank you for having me, thomas. one of the reasons i didn't come forward initially, i didn't wabt want me to be part of the story. so i released it without saying that i made the recording. then the spin that mcconnell put out was so far from reality that i knew i couldn't fix it that day and i needed some time to reflect on it and to articulate it and that's what this window of time has been. >> so now after this window of time, you have said this recording cost you a friendship. your job. you got kicked out of your apartment, forcing you to sleep in our own car. when you thought out this plan to record this conversation or try to catch a private conversation between mcconnell and his aides, did you have any what you were going to get that would cause so much havoc to your own life? >> actually, i didn't have anything to lose. i didn't really consider the consequences to my own life because when i d

curtis morrison, earlier this year, i made an audio recording of senator mitch mcconnell. well taken. they've made the story about that rather than the horrendous things they were saying about ashley judd and what their game plan was against her. anyways, he said i leaked the recording to mother jones which published it. at the time mcconnell was prepping for a race against actress ashley judd. it included plans to use judd's history of depression against her. their charge of being prepared that may be presented to a grand jury. mcconnell was quick to frame himself as the victim of the crime. it was guilty repositioning of a crime. he said i don't personally dislike mcconnell. i believe he's failed kentucky. prioritized personal agenda de jure for more than three decades of his so-called public service. this was -- he points out this is at a time when the ppp poll showed he was the most unpopular senator in the country and obviously this ashley judd was clearly viewed as a huge threat. his numbers show him very vulnerable. hollywood star and yada, yada. they were vicious i