cybercommand. first, we have to build and train cyberforces and these are things that bob kehler and i are arm and arm on. second a defense ibl architecture. you mentioned 15,000 enclaves and our antiquated architecture, if we went to the way google, yahoo! and others are doing in the defense department we'd have a more defensible architecture and that's the way we are pushing, and the services are helping us get there. i think we have to partner with dhs and fbi. the reason that i bring dhs into this is that, i believe we want them working with rest of government to help set up the rest of government networks and work with that. we do not want to take the people that i have and push them over here. i think we want people that we have looking outside and that goes to senator mccain's comments, we're the offensive force. we're the ones that are going to protect the nation, we need to see what's going on and be prepared to do that. we can give and work with dhs and provide capabilities and technical

cybercommand. first, we have to build and train cyberforces and these are things that bob kehler and i are arm and arm on. second a defense ibl architecture. you mentioned 15,000 enclaves and our antiquated architecture, if we went to the way google, yahoo! and others are doing in the defense department we'd have a more defensible architecture and that's the way we are pushing, and the services are helping us get there. i think we have to partner with dhs and fbi. the reason that i bring dhs into this is that, i believe we want them working with rest of government to help set up the rest of government networks and work with that. we do not want to take the people that i have and push them over here. i think we want people that we have looking outside and that goes to senator mccain's comments, we're the offensive force. we're the ones that are going to protect the nation, we need to see what's going on and be prepared to do that. we can give and work with dhs and provide capabilities and technical

cybercommand. first, we have to build and train cyberforces and these are things that bob kehler and i are arm and arm on. second a defense ibl architecture. you mentioned 15,000 enclaves and our antiquated architecture, if we went to the way google, yahoo! and others are doing in the defense department we'd have a more defensible architecture and that's the way we are pushing, and the services are helping us get there. i think we have to partner with dhs and fbi. the reason that i bring dhs into this is that, i believe we want them working with rest of government to help set up the rest of government networks and work with that. we do not want to take the people that i have and push them over here. i think we want people that we have looking outside and that goes to senator mccain's comments, we're the offensive force. we're the ones that are going to protect the nation, we need to see what's going on and be prepared to do that. we can give and work with dhs and provide capabilities and technical

cybercommand is a component of a larger u.s. government-wide effort to make cyberspace, one, safer and a form for vibrant citizen interaction, reserve our freedom to act in cyberspace and defend our vital interests those of our allies. cybercommand is charged to direct the security, operations and defense of the department of defense information systems. but our work is affected by threats outside d.o.d.'s networks. threats the nation cannot ignore. what we see both inside and outside d.o.d. information systems underscores the imperative to act now to defend america in cyberspace. the american people expect broad and efficient access to cyberspace. military and civilian sectors rely on accessibility, increased inner connectedness of information systems, growing sophistication of cybercriminals and foreign intelligence actors has increases our risk. last spring, international strategy for cyberspace the president confirmed inherent right to protect ourselves against attacks in this domain as in traditional domains. he said, when

what i counted in that other 12,000 is our cyber, army cybercommand, air force cybercommand. >> various forces. >> that's right. >> okay. i want to make sure i understood that. nsa today does a pretty good job of intercepting and protecting the dot-gov, dot-mail networks. in fact, i heard you say you have the d.o.d. information systems are probed as many as a thousand times an hour, over six million times a day from criminals, terrorist organizations, including 100 foreign intelligence organizations, and even with that huge magnitude of hacks into the system, general, nsa has done a remarkable job of protecting that system. are you satisfied with where you are in that regard today? >> actually, i'm going to answer this twice and contradict myself. we're making progress and i think we're doing a good job on it but we're not where we need to be, senator. and there's two reasons i say that. i do think we have the best defense right there, but it could be better and i think for the future for military command and control, it must be better. so i think the i.t. modernization that the defense

cybercommand across the department of defense. unlike combatant commands which otyregionally focused, stratcom submissions are global. as noted in the presence its strategic guidance, stratcom commands nuclear forces that can under any circumstances confront an adversary with this prospect of unacceptable damage. that capability needs to be preserved as we continue to thduce the size of the forces and modernize the infrastructure at the department of energy that supports thisce mission. the general kehler, here are some ot the issues that i hope you'll address this morning. first, are you satisfied -- are you satisfied with the direction that we're taking in our nuclear force posture and with the department of energy's role in maintaining our nuclearure and stockpile so that we canen continue to reduce its size without testing while ensuringt the stockpile remains safe and meet military requirements? stoe second, do you believe we're on? a sustainable path to protect our space assets anda reconstitute them if necessary given the c

she came out to nsa and cybercommand and had a chance to sit down with all of us. absolutely her heart is in right direction. she understands what we bring to the table. she leverages that, not only in the cybermission but across the board, and i think we're making the correct strides. when you add fbi's tremendous capabilities there that's the team the government wants and needs in place. reality is we can put all of our manpower internal and it won't solve the problem. we have to work together as a team. i do believe that's the best way to approach it. >> sorry. >> i was going to say, to answer your question, dhs has been good to work with. they are growing cape ibilties. will take time. we provide a lot of assistance to that and we think it's a good relationship. >> that's exactly what they tell me, good relationship and they're benefiting enormously from your extraordinary expertise. thanks, general. >> senator lieberman? >> could i add a comment? >> make it brief. >> it will be very brief. it's about balances responsibilities. when you look at balancing respon

what i counted in that other 12,000 is our cyber, army cybercommand, air force cybercommand. >> various forces. >> that's right. >> okay. i want to make sure i understood that. nsa today does a pretty good job of intercepting and protecting the dot-gov, dot-mail networks. in fact, i heard you say you have the d.o.d. information systems are probed as many as a thousand times an hour, over six million times a day from criminals, terrorist organizations, including 100 foreign intelligence organizations, and even with that huge magnitude of hacks into the system, general, nsa has done a remarkable job of protecting that system. are you satisfied with where you are in that regard today? >> actually, i'm going to answer this twice and contradict myself. we're making progress and i think we're doing a good job on it but we're not where we need to be, senator. and there's two reasons i say that. i do think we have the best defense right there, but it could be better and i think for the future for military command and control, it must be better. so i think the i.t. modernization that the defense

cybercommand have developed for d.o.d. critical infrastructure. since the administration seeking to implement both approaches, the implication is that neither one alone is seen as sufficient to meet the threat. others, however, take the position that information sharing in conjunction with the national security agencies defensive solution would be enough, that it's not necessary to require critical infrastructure companies to build up their own defenses. do you believe that nsa's signature-based defense deployed recently in the defense industrial base pilot program can defend our nation's critical infrastructure against nation state cyberthreats or do you believe that the critical infrastructure companies also need to close their vulnerabilities? >> senator, first, i think it's the latter. we need both. but i'd like to take it one step further because i don't think what we're talking about is having nsa deploy capabilities out there. rather, what we're talking about is nsa providing technical capability to others to run so we don't want, nor do we

we see the 24th air force cybercommand there as a place for cyberwarfare alternatives can be provided to those facilities we have here in the washington area. i think the proposal that senator hutchinson and senator tester has put forward to include overseas pieces in any of that review, but at least needs to be a mechanism that any future brac to consider even though there's treaties and others to consider that we just ask you to consider that as we go forward. and of course all of us have thousands of veterans and our areas and people that are military retirees. you have a number of proposals you consider that would impact military retirees. can reassure those who are retired now are nearing retirement, that they can feel their retirement on fixed income is secure? >> with regards to your last question, yes. our goal with regard to looking at retirement, we've made clear, the president made clear that any changes that people ought to be grandfathered in who are serving in the military, who have served or are about to retire that they will get full retirement benefits as promised to