taylor: roi carmel of cyberreason, thank you both for joining us.ad, peter thiel's vc firm is being sued for 16 million dollars by its former general counsel. we will hear from the plaintiff next. this is bloomberg. ♪ taylor: the venture capital firm founded by billionaire peter thiel is being sued by its former top lawyer. it is crystal mckellar who was the general counsel and alleges the company wrongfully terminated her and retaliated against her for calling out alleged wrongdoing at the company. she joins us now. crystal, thank you for joining. outline your claims for us. guest: sure, thank you so much for having me. i'm here because the founder has been abusing the trust and money of investors. i and it shall he tried to -- i initially tried to fix things from within, including urging peter thiel to use his power to shut down fraud. that did not work. i went to the fcc, and they retaliated against me by smearing my name in the press and also by filing two separate lawsuits against me in delaware and in texas, states where i have never worked, i

the blue side, which consisted of cyberreason, fbi, secret service, arlington police department, andrganizations, put together a defense strategy trying to think as broad as possible and then reacting in real time to the simulation. what this made them do is start thinking beyond their traditional thought process and it allows them later on to sort of absorb what happened in the exercise and have some lessons learned so they can prepare in peace time towards election day itself. how realistic do some of these scenarios sound? some of them sound a little outlandish, but are they useful exercises? >> i think absolutely. any exercise is a useful exercise at this point because we don't know what sort of attack is waiting at some point in 2020, right? we know what occurred in 2016, that russian hackers years sequence attacks to attack phishingand used expeditions to get into florida, but we do not know what is waiting in 2020, so playing out as many scenarios as possible is a good idea. taylor: how do we switch from going to the defensive and protecting ourselves versus going on the offen