included within that's is cybersecurity. over the last four years, from 2006 to 2009, we have distributed about $27.5 million devoted exclusively to homeland security and cybersecurity, and 9 million in fiscal year 2009. we do not have the 2010 figures in yet. that has led to some innovative programs. south carolina they set up a security operation center and delaware they have an information security program. what we are trying to do here, because the way that we give grants, for those of you who do not know about grant giving, is we have some broad categories and one category within that is cybersecurity. what we are looking at in terms of working at dhs is to create a specific cybersecurity grant program so that the money that is available will only go for cybersecurity, in order to ensure that this critical area is in fact funded to the extent that the federal government can provide that kind of assistance. the fourth point i want to make, and this is also absolutely important. if we are born to do with these problems to

on homeland security and cybersecurity. to my left is the distinguished governor from arizona, jan brewer. the briefing books for the meeting were sent to governors in advance and they include the agenda and the speaker's biographies, as well as other background information. to my immediate right is a member of the national governors' association's senior .anagement' i encourage you to please see them if you are in need of materials or additional copies or any other assistance. our agenda does provide a legislative update today on where we stand on important things an important issues. joining us today is a former colorado congresswoman and newly appointed secretary for department of homeland security. betsy, thank you very much for being here. [applause] will forward to working with you. this committee was a recent creation that came into being about two years ago, the special committee on homeland security. we hope it is a help to the administration and the secretary in working together with the nation's governors. the pr

>> guest: what do i think of cybersecurity? digital security. so, certainly, internet security, digital security, cybersecurity is what you think of when you think of that term, and it's really the protection of all things digital and all things in the cyber world, internet world is really the core definition. >> host: jill atour row of the washington business bureau joins us here as well. >> host: yes. thank you for sitting down and chatting with us. nice to see you. >> guest: thank you, jill. >> host: i'm going to start off with some company news that we heard about. i'm just curious what this means for the company's technology portfolios. does it change much in terms of the technology itself, or is this more just the uniting of two different companies to better serve the customer? >> guest: well, jill, i would tell you this is a great marriage between the two companies. i can't tell you how excited i am to kind of go to the next level with intel. we've been working with intel for more than 18 months prior to the announcement that we did in au

>> guest: what do i think of cybersecurity? digital security. so certainly internet security digital security cybersecurity is what you think of when he think of that term and it is really the protection of all things digital and all things in the cyberworld, internet world is the core definition. >> host: jill aitoro of the washington business journal joins us here at the table as well. guest: yes, thank you or chatting with us. nice to see you. i'm going to start off with some company news we heard about with the acquisition by intel of mcafee. i am just curious what this means for the company's technology portfolio? doesn't change much in terms of its technology itself or is this more the uniting of two different companies? guest: well jill, i would tell you this is a great marriage between the two companies. i can tell you how excited i am too kind to kind of go to the next level with intel. we have been working with intel for more than 18 months. prior to the announcement we did in august to announce the merger, and we really had an opportu

i believe cybersecurity is everyone's responsibility. the collective view is more important than the singular view, and it really is a call to action. it is about plain speaking. i am a lawyer by education, not a technologist. i have been government for 28 years. i am pleased with all the support from dhs, the white house, and congress, but with that, the reason i was hired originally it was that i was not a technologist, i could understand the technology, but hopefully i could explain it in a way that those that had to make decisions could understand it and move it forward. my belief is that it is about the good, the bad, but most importantly about the truth. we are not going to talk about the truth about what is going on i used to start off and say there had been a security breach. i got a congratulatory note at home. i clicked onyx, open it up, and my machine crashed -- i clicked on it, and my machine crashed, totally destroying the machine. someday when i get my -- i am going to go down there and break it up. we have to talk about wh

government to shut down internet comeke event of a cybersecurity attack and state of the state address by utah governor gary herbert. live coverage of a forum examining immigration policy to attract highly skilled workers. .. glses the national asset act. it would enhance the homeland security act of 2002 and other laws to enhance the security and resiliency of the cyber and communications infrastructure of the united states. this bill died when the 111th congress ended. however, there have been reports that it will be reintroduced in the 112th congress. karen evans is a former administrator for e-government of the office of management and budget. ms. evans, what would this bill do, how would it change the laws? >> guest: it's really a look at taking a comprehensive approach of trying to update many of the statutes that are already on the books to reflect the environment that we're in right now and the dependence on telecommunications services, cybersecurity types of activities and bring clarity and alignment to roles and responsibilities within the federal sector. >> host: would it en

ability of the united states government to shut down internet communications in the event of a cybersecurity attack. plus a discussion on the use of the internet in the middle east. >> in the last congress, senators lieberman, collins and carper introduced legislation called the projected cyberspace as a national asset act. in this bill, it would enhance of the homeland security act of 2002 and others to enhance the security and resiliency of the cyber and communications infrastructure of the united states. this bill blight when the e111 congress ended. however, they're have been reports it will be reintroduced in the 112 congress. karen evans is a former administrator at the office of management and budget. ms. evans, of what would this bill to? how would it change the law? >> it's taking a look at a comprehensive approach of trying to update many of the statutes that are already on the books, to reflect the environment that we are in right now and the dependence on communications services, cybersecurity types of activities and bring clarity and alignment to the roles and responsibilities w

. >> the uprising in egypt that we spoke about a few minute ago has thrown a snag into cybersecurity legislation on capitol hill. senate committee on homeland security is propose ago bill to give the federal government some measure of power to limit the internet. mark matthews with the proposal and the political blow-back. >> protest in egypt and mubarak reaction shutting down egypt internet causing some concern. new bilodeaux to be proposed in the u.s. congress might give a u.s. president similar powers. >> we see in egypt it's a bad idea to give one person control how people in the country communicate. you don't want the president to have that or leader of any country to have that. >>reporter: electronic frontier foundation says it joined with couple dozen other groups in opposing the bill proenza posed by the senate committee for moment land security. today the 2 senators that head the committee issued a response saying we would never sign on to legislation that authorized the president or anyone else to shut down the internet. they point to what happened at a nuclear facility las

there a lot of centers of activity in this government with respect to cybersecurity. howard schmidt as they president coordinator and on the civilian side he is the person we all look to for guidance and advice and ultimately recommendations to the president. but it is something that comes up in the bilateral rounds in which i operate and also the multilateral so it remains and is an important activity. >> host: deputy assistant secretary of state in u.s. coordinators for communications and information policy, ambassador philip verveer. what are you doing at this conference? >> guest: i'm going to participate on a panel that has to do with cloud computing and broader implications of cloud computing for privacy and security. >> host: generally what is going to be your message? >> guest: well i think the message would be something like, this is very close to the top of the agenda with respect to every country that we engage encumber station with. there are concerns across an extraordinarily broad range of subject matter about how we are going to contend with this very i

we don't want to be egypt, nor do we, you know, when you talk about cybersecurity, a broad issue to go behind theft concerns what can be done to harm the function of the internet itself we don't want to give government so much power that they have a kill switch or something like that. and narrowing that down to individual domains, we need to be careful though we are doing it in a way where due process is properly followed, so again, they're have been some criticisms of the senate legislation. we are not going to start with what the senate has done. we are going to start by taking a careful fresh look at this and making sure that we can utilize a judicial system or a doubt that judicial system to fairly deal with these issues. we are also going to hold a hearing on some of its proposals which is going to, in fact it's more than a proposal, it is a plan there in the process of implementing to dramatically expand the number of end domains that are available which could complicate immensely the ability of people to protect their intellectual property rights. so we want to ask them some rea

you can tell me what we are doing on cybersecurity. >> certainly. i don't want to comment specifically on the asdaq matter which is obviously intensely under scrutiny by the regulators broadly but let me just say given the highly electronic nature of the markets and highly fragmented nature the financial and institutions broadly exchange and are having to face cybersecurity threats. we work very closely with the exchanges and have the automated review program, which are examiners that evaluate wth the exchanges, the quality of their information security that is in place and what the vulnerabilities they might have. we recently asked all of the exchanges to provide an audit of their information security policies, practices and systems so we can have a baseline understanding of where all of the many different markets are with respect to that. we are taking this extremely seriously and working closely with the fbi, secret service, department of justice to make sure that we are pursuing any of these threats as aggressively as we can. i can tell you the

you can tell me what we are doing on cybersecurity. >> certainly. i don't want to comment specifically on the nasdaq matter which is obviously intensely under scrutiny by the regulators broadly but let me just say given the highly electronic nature of the markets and highly fragmented nature the financial and institutions broadly exchange and are having to face cybersecurity threats. we work very closely with the exchanges and have the automated review program, which are examiners that evaluate with the exchanges, the quality of their information security that is in place and what the vulnerabilities they might have. we recently asked all of the exchanges to provide an audit of their information security policies, practices and systems so we can have a baseline understanding of where all of the many different markets are with respect to that. we are taking this extremely seriously and working closely with the fbi, secret service, department of justice to make sure that we are pursuing any of these threats as aggressively as we can. i can tell you th

director clapper, you had several bullets in your written statement about cybersecurity, and you said in your oral statement, the impact is difficult to overstate. as you know, there's really a difference of opinion about whether we're talking primary by about annoyances with computers that run slower, or dealing with crime or theft of intellectual property and certainly a lot of money that is stolen, or whether we really are talking about a matter of national security, and so i would appreciate if you and maybe director mueller and director panetta could talk to us about the degree to which cyberthreats to pose a threat to our nation's security because that is relevant to how much money and what kinds of authorities we have to look at to deal with the problem. first, we need to understand whether we're talking primarily about crime or whether we're talking about national security. >> well, the effect can be the same whether it's the source of an attack or an intrusion coming from a criminal be it domestic or organized international ring. from a national security standpoint, i think t

then the nation's governors talk about what the nation should be doing on cybersecurity. tomorrow on "washington journal," terence samuel talks about the short-term spending. the latest on egypt, libya, egypt, and bahrain. and the president and ceo of the children miracle hospitals talks about the importance children hospital in the health care system. live at 7:00 a.m. eastern on c- span. about whatted happens to society when it gets boring. >> clay shirky discusses the affects of the internet on the society. >> it is not the moment when a shiny tool shows up in the hands of a 15-year-old that it changes the world, but it is when you show your mother that you can make a video and uploaded to youtube. >> the british house of commons was not in sessions last week. the house returns this week and you can see prime minister's questions next sunday at 9:00 p.m. eastern. tonight international reaction to the situation in libya. >> yesterday the united nations >> yesterday the united nations security council voted 15-0

we've also made some choices to advance some of our leading sectors like life sciences, cybersecurity, green tech aerospace, global trade and manufacturing. we close the largest three pdo in america towards the end of 2009. that's great and 5700 jobs at the port of baltimore by modernizing it with private dollars so that the larger ships when asked to the panama canal won't pass by the port of baltimore. why did we make that decision? because we want our kids to be winners in this new economy. with your vote for the recovery and reinvestment act would able to put together state dollars in county dollars to attract gm to locate a plant to build the next generation of electric drive motor in maryland, and whitemarsh. why did we do that? it wasn't because with extra cash sitting around to it was because we want our children to be winners in this changing new economy. we've expanded in these tough times. tax credits for biotech, extended credits for research and development, state credits. created a new hiring credit to go on top of the federal new hiring credit that's working to put peop

that is why we're investing in the national cybersecurity program that i know william hague and i'm sure to work on counter-prolive medication. the biggest threat we face comes from terrorist attacks some of which are carried out by our own citizens. it is important to stress that terrorism is not linked exclusively to any one religion or ethnic group. my country, the united kingdom still faces threats from dissident republicans in northern ireland. anarchist attacks have occurred recently in greece and italy and, of course, yourselves in germany were long scarred by terrorism from the red army faction. nevertheless, we should acknowledge that this threat comes in europe overwhelmingly from young men who follow a completely perverse, warped interpretation of islam and who are prepared to blow themselves up and kill their fellow citizens. last week at davos i range the alarm bell for the europe to return to their economic dynamism. though my message is complex, my message is equally stark. we will not defeat terrorism simply by the action we take outside our borders. europe needs to wake

this weekend, the governors will talk about how to grow economies, education, and cybersecurity as they gather in washington for the annual winter meeting of the national governors' association. live coverage throughout the week and on c-span. >> sunday, mike huckabee promoting his current book. he shares his thoughts on president obama, and his possible run in the 2012 presidential election. watched c-span's road to lighthouse, sunday at 6:00 27:30 pm. >> the conference of mayors holding its annual winter leisure it in washington. they held a news conference to talk about the cuts planned for the community development block grant program passed in the u.s. house budget bill last week. the news conference this about a half an hour. >> good morning. i would like that of all the mirrors present your introduce themselves and the cities they serve. i'm elizabeth couts president of the u.s. council of mares. >>-- of mayors. >> michael nutter, mayor of philadelphia. >> gastonia, north carolina. >> schenectady new york. >> des moines, iowa. >> macon, georgia. >> mesa, arizona. >> davenport, io

you can tell me what ware doing on cybersecurity. >> certainly. i don't want to comment specifically on the nasdaq matter which is obviously intensely under scrutiny by the regulators broadly but let me just say given the highly electronic nature of the markets and highly fragmented nature the financl and institutions broadly exchange and are having to face cybersecurity threats. we work very closely with the changes and have the automated review program, which are examiners that evaluate with the exchanges, the quality of their information serity that is in place and what the vulnerabilities they might hae. we recently asked all of the exchanges to provide an audit of their information security licies, practices and systems so we can have a baselin understanding of where all of the many different markets are with respect to that. we are taking this extremely seriously and working closely with the fbi, secret service, department of justice to make sure that we are pursuing any of these threats as aggressively as we can. i can tell you the xchanges

officials are extraordinarily concerned about what they are calling cybersecurity.and i also know from leona time in government that they were -- the military was ordered to develop a very vigorous capability to attack cyber target's. and i have read that it was either a u.s. or an israeli or joint effort to go after the irani in computer system but i don't know that for the fact. all i can give you this speculation. except after the last few years i was still working at the agency, cyber warfare was becoming not a password kind of very important concept and was attracting the contracting large amounts of funding. >> we're going to take one more question in the back but i would point you to an article that was in the times magazine about three weeks ago about the creation of the between as rile israel and siemens switches corporation remics the generators that were sabotaged. yes, sir. >> my question is could america really get to listen to what you say? i have a feeling that the country, meaning america, is too tall now to be doubled to find which foot to dance on.

lungren the chairmanf the cybersecurity subcommitteethat we are going to -- mr. johnson: would the geleman yield? mr. dreier: i yield right now to the geleman from gold river, five minutes. i wod love to engage in a colloquy if mr. polis would yield time on this issue. five minutes to my friend from gold river, the chairman of the cybersecurity subcommittee the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from california is recognized for five minutes. mr. lungren: thank you very much , mr. speaker. i thank the gentleman, the chairman of the rules committee, for granting me this time. the author of the sunset provision that requires us to these three portions of e patriot act. i offered that when we had the re-authorization of the overall bill because i thought these were three sections that were, at that time, controversial, and that we ought to be required to review it. so i did support the authorization for a year that we had last year, but i fully expected that the judiciary committee would hold hearings so that before this date we would have acted on any changes anyon

some of the fastest areas of growth in the state are in biotechnology and cybersecurity. we were able to compete for and win a federal grant to expand brondband connections to connect all 24 counties in our state. we believe that cyber highway is really the key to the future and so technology is the center of our economy. >> well said. and absolutely technology is going to -- and finding the cures for the diseases in 2005 i believe it was, we passed a $3 billion effort over a 10-year period of time to find cures for cancer. it's those big ideas, it's those very innovative and all the spinoff that comes from that, the jobs that are created, so technology and -- you know whether it's in the energy field. we haven't talked about energy at all. and the fact of the matter is, as we are seeing the middle east and those areas literally in flames, countries that have massive reserves of oil and gas, yet in this country, whether it's the -- both of the dacts and eastern side of montana, monstrous reserves that we are using our technology today, martin, to find ways to not only dis

tell me what you're doing on cybersecurity. tell me what you're doing on that. >> certainly. i don't want to comment specific on the nasdaq matter which is obviously intensely under scrutiny by regulators broadly, but let me just say given the highly electronic nature of our markets and they're highly fragmented in nature, financial institutions broadly and exchanges are, i think increasingly having to face cybersecurity threats. we worked very closely with the exchanges. we have something called the automated review program which our examiners evaluate with the exchanges the quality of their information security that's in place and what vulnerabilities they might have. we recently asked all of the exchanges to provide us with an audit of their information security policies, practices and systems so that we can have a baseline understanding of where all the many different markets are with respect to that. we're taking this extremely seriously. we're working closely with the fbi, secret service, department of justice, to make sure that we are pursuing any of these threats as a

lungren the chairman of the cybersecurity subcommittee, that we are going to -- mr. johnson: would the gentleman yield? mr. dreier: i yield right now to the gentleman from gold river, five minutes. i would love to engage in a colloquy if mr. polis would yield time on this issue. five minutes to my friend from gold river, the chairman of the cybersecurity subcommittee. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from california is recognized for five minutes. mr. lungren: thank you very much , mr. speaker. i thank the gentleman, the chairman of the rules committee, for granting me this time. the author of the sunset provision that requires us to these three portions of the patriot act. i offered that when we had the re-authorization of the overall bill because i thought these were three sections that were, at that time, controversial, and that we ought to be required to review it. so i did support the authorization for a year that we had last year, but i fully expected that the judiciary committee would hold hearings so that before this date we would have acted on any chan

firms have reported that they've been the victim of cybersecurity incidents or information breaches, which is more than tripled from 2009, according to what you've indicated. now, you're a member of the committee on foreign investment in the united states. and as i understand it, cfius -- as it's known -- informed huawei that they should divest themselves of the 3leaf systems, which is a california- based server company. they have rejected that and i gather they're waiting as to whether or not the president would make a determination, take any action. and he has 15 days in which to do it. i'd like to get your comments on your view of this company. but it does present a serious problem, because obviously, a lot of american companies are going to be purchasing this technology. they have no guidance, no understanding. we haven't obviously, yet the policy to understand the manner to which -- the degree to which that they can penetrate our systems. you know, we understand the serious vulnerabilities involved and the threats that are involved. and so this is a good example of one of the pr

>> i would say that the administration is working right now on a comprehensive cybersecurity strategy that i hope will allow us to do that. >> see, i think the answer is no. and i'm not hearing you -- >> i think we're in a much better position than we were in but i think there's much worm for progress and improvement on this and we're working in an interagency way in the white house. >> the dot.gov network and the ensign capability have been within every dot.gov? >> i don't believe it's been deployed on every node but i will get back to you on that for the record, sir. >> director mueller? >> i would say what has been in place for a couple of years caused a national cyberjoint force in identifying and correcting attacks, big, larger or small. you have all of the relevant agencies there and the expertise and the tie-in into the relevant agencies. if it turns out to be an attack by your high school student down the street then we obviously would take and it'd be a crime. more particularly it goes to the question of stopping an attack depending on the -- from whence the attack originates

. >> second, i recently wrote to you, madam chair, about the cybersecurity and the tax that had taken place against nasdaq and what not. i hope can give us some sense because obviously the market integrity is important and one of the ways is that we are sure that we are not having the market's being affected by those who are attacking it, andi

patriot act surveillance programs and cybersecurity threats as well as the current terrorist threat level to the u.s. you will hear from leon panetta, fbi print director, and the director of national intelligence, and james clapper during his 2.5 our event. this hearing took place on -- after mubarak said he would transfer power to the vice president and before he said he would resign. are eternally grateful for their sacrifices. i also want to welcome the committee's new ranking member. his dedication and talent may serve this committee well. he is also a friend. it never hurts to have a former prosecutor on your side. i am looking forward to discussion and theuestions and answers that follow. i want to talk a moment or i would like to -- the committee to go and the new congress. taking a strong evaltion of the 10 years where the budget has grown exponentially and change significantly. the budget, cyber issues, and many others. it is a profound honor and a tremendous responsibility to a similar role of the chairman. the u.s. intelligence committee is vital to defending our nation for man

some of the fastest areas of growth that we have as a state are in biotechnology and also cybersecuritye able to compete for and win a federal grant to expand broadband connections to -- and connect all 24 of our counties in our state. we believe that cyber, that cyber highway is really the key to the future, and so technology's at the center of our new economy. >> governor perry? >> um, well said. and, absolutely, the technology's going to -- in finding the cures for the diseases. in 2005 i believe it was, 2007 we passed a $3 billion effort over a ten-year period of time to find the cures for cancer. again, it's those big ideas, it's those very innovative and all the spin-off that comes from that, the jobs that are created. so technology and, you know, whether it's in the energy field. we haven't talked about energy at all -- >> please. >> -- jonathan, and the fact of the matter is as we're seeing in the middle east and those areas, literally in flames. countries that have massive reserves of oil and gas. yet many this country -- yet in this country whether it's up in both of the dakot

education, and cybersecurity, as they gather for the winter meeting of the national governors' association. we will have live coverage throughout the weekend on c- span. >> sunday on "road to the white house," might cut of the with his new book, "possible government." he talks about president obama and his possible run in 2012 as the gop field begins to take shape. watch sunday at 6:30 p.m. and 9:30 p.m. eastern and pacific. >> without taking it in your city for a conference on digital privacy. media bistro is a website founded in 1993 for people who wrote richard worked in media- related industries. you will hear some of the leading thinkers on the protection of personal data. they talk about imports of managing information coming user expectations, and potential regulation in the area of online privacy. this is one hour and 15 minutes. >> just a reminder, there is wifi. the password is myn. hopefully it is working. now it is time for our keynote presentation. business week calls him the internet's ralph nader. he teaches information privacy law at georgetown. we're so honored and pleased

let me say cybersecurity and privacy are extremely important issues to all americans and i have strong concerns this government-directed effort could destroy online anonymity, become the equivalent of national i.d. and crowd out private efforts. this project could potentially lead to the unique internet i.d. that would serve as a single identifier to password protected website is frightening. it is equally concerning to think this single digital identity the hacker would have access to a wide range of user personal information and accounts, security of the cyberdomain ises serious by a government run or government directed internet i.d. system is a risk for liberty and strategy -- and this strategy is not the way to go about achieving this goal. the elected representatives of congress shall address these issues and not the government bureaucracy. i will oven an amendment to block the amendment of the strategy and that is why i'm offering this amendment, number 260, funding for the national institute of standards and technology. i thank you and yield back. the chair: the gentleman yield

education, and cybersecurity as they gather in washington for the annual winter meeting of the national governors' association. we'll have live coverage throughout the weekend on c-span. >> and now vice president joe biden on spending cuts and president obama's 2012 budget. the administration says it will cut the deficit by more than $1 trillion over the next 10 years. the vice president spoke at the mcconnell center at the university of louisville. he was will find by mitch mcconnell who introduces him for this one-hour discussion. [applause] >> well, thank you very much, everyone. and welcome to the mcconnell center and to our impressive guests. this year marks the center's 20th anniversary and we're delighted to begin the celebration with our very first visit from a vice president of the united states. america got a close-up view of today's guests during the 2008 presidential campaign. and they got a senses of his good humor. his mastery of the issues and his lifelong love affair with words especially his own. [laughter] >> and they got a sense of why it's almost impossible not to li

governors talk about education and cybersecurity as they gather for the annual winter meeting of the national governors' association. we have live coverage throughout the weekend on c-span. >> live again on c-span2 with a discussion of afghanistan's national security forces. defense and interior ministers will talk about their insights into the future of afghan security. live coverage at noon eastern on c-span2. >> this weekend on booktv on c-span2 michael shall there, former chief of the cia osama bin laden unit on the continuing war against the u.s.. the new york times liberal agenda has tarnished its reputation as a trusted news source. on afterwards, susan jacoby explore the health industry and american culture in never say die. look for the complete schedule at booktv.org and his get our e-mail signup for our booktv alert. sunday on road to the white house former arkansas governor and presidential candidate mike huckabee on a simple government sharing his thoughts on president obama, social issues and his possible run for the 2012 election. watch road to the white house sunday a

on some of the issues that were raised by my colleague, senator kent conrad about the issue of cybersecurity because there are multiple facets to this issue that exposes our vulnerability and it's obvious whenever rater threats and that's why i've been working on this initiative was senator whitehouse along with senator rockefeller and under makowski. on one dimension of that that i think is an attention this week and i wanted to ask you about it. i noticed you mention your testimony in your path the degree to which we are seeing more malicious neighbor judy targeting u.s. companies that almost two thirds of u.s. firms had reported they benefit them of information breaches, which is more than tripled from 2009, according to which you've indicated. you are a member in the united states and as i understand it, his 50th informed they should divest themselves of three systems which is the california-based server company. they have project that and i gather they are waiting as to whether or not the president would make a determination, take any action. his 15 days to do it. i would like to get yo

they're looking at climate change, cybersecurity and natural disasters. it's hosted by the u.s.japan research institute. we expect that to continue and you can see that live on c-span3. [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] >> we are a minute or two away from the second panel in this discussion on immigration policies needed to attract highly skilled workers. looking at what can be done to attract and retain a skilled immigrant workforce while maximizing the talents of nativeborn americans. they are discussing research finds an immigration's role in business innovation. is again taking place at the brookings institution here in washington. we expect the next panel in just a moment. this is live coverage on c

protected from the new and serious threats to read that is why we are investing in a national cybersecurity program that i know that william talked about yesterday, and we are sharpening to act on the proliferation. the biggest threat that we face comes from the terrorist attacks, some of which are sadly carried out by our own citizens. it is important to stress that terrorism is not linked exclusively to any one religion or ethnic group. the united kingdom still faces threats from the republicans in northern ireland and the have occurred recently in greece and italy and of course in germany from the red army faction. we should acknowledge that this threat comes in europe overwhelmingly from young man who follow a completely approvers war of islam and who are prepared to blow themselves up and kill their fellow citizens. last week's examples, i rang the alarm bell for the urgent europe to recover its economic dynamism, and today the subject is complex my message on security is stark. we will not defeat terrorism simply by the actions we take. europe needs to wake up to what is happening in

that is why we're investing in a national cybersecurity program that i know william hague talked about yesterday and we are sharpening our readiness to act. the biggest threat that we faced comes interest terrorist attacks, some of which are sadly carried out by our own citizens. it is important to sthreas terrorism is not linked -- stress that strism is not linked to one ethnic group. anarchist attacks have occurred recently in greece and italy and of course, yourselfs in germany were long scarred by terrorism from the red army faction. werked acknowledge this threat comes in europe overwhelmingly from young men who follow a completely perverse, warped interpretation of islam, and who are prepared to blow themselves up and kill their fellow citizens. last week at davos, i ran the alarm bell for the urgent need for europe to recover its economic dynamism and today, my message on security is equally stark. we will not defeat terrorism simply by the actions we take outside our borders. europe needs to wake up to what is happening in our own countries. of course, that means strengthening,

a lot of cybersecurity things there. tell us what it is we should be telling washington about cloud computing and its safety. >> yeah. i think, look, to be clear about it, there are multiple ways to implement a cloud, right? and there are secure ways to do it. but they are different than just going out and using a consumer crowd. so if i was running national defense or i, as you know -- [inaudible] all that good stuff, if you would have to look at it differently than if you're just sharing office work in a civil civilian agency. so not all clouds are the same. let me give crow a definition. -- you a definition. it's a virtualized environment that michael is describing. everyone's say it's a cloud. okay, fine. when i was training 35 years ago, it was called virtual machine. that's how i because trained. not on the keypunch -- we still had those too. so, you know, it's just been moved from mainframe to large servers down to the intel infrastructure. but fundamentally, it's hairing of resources. now, there's multiby way to

would cut and harm border security, transportation security, marine time security, cargo security, cybersecurity, immigration enforcement and disaster preparedness. the list of crucial programs that would be adversely impacted by this across the board amendment goes on and on. i would urge my colleagues to oppose this amendment and i yield back the balance of my time. the chair: the gentleman yields back. the question is on the amendment offered by the gentleman from california. those in favor say aye. those opposed, no. in the opinion of the chair, the noes have it. >> on that i would request a recorded vote. the chair: further proceedings on the amendment offered by the gentleman from california will be postponed. for what purpose does the gentleman from georgia rise? mr. broun: i have an amendment at the desk, number 246. the chair: the clerk will designate the amendment. the clerk: amendment number 246 printed in the congressional record offered by mr. broun of georgia. the chair: pursuant to the order of the house of february 17, 2011, the gentleman from georgia, mr. broun, and a member opp

>> this weekend governors will talk about how to grow their states' economies, education, and cybersecurity as they gather in washington for the annual meeting of the national governors' association. we will have this for you live on c-span. >> on "road to the white house," might cut the be promoting his current book, "a simple government." he talks about barack obama, social and fiscal issues, and his possible run for the gop to help -- gop republican nomination. >> now the democratic governor association discusses the future of the u.s. work force with several ceo's and labor leaders for the discussion in this moderated by john podesta who served as white house chief of staff during the clinton administration. this is about 50 minutes. >> please welcome the chair of the democratic governors association, martin o'malley. >> thank you for coming here to be part of the democratic governors association and this conversation we are about to have about serving a modern and innovative work force. we have two panels we will have this afternoon parade of lot of ground to cover. we just came from a