i have to ask about cyberspace. the inspector general recently did airport which it says you don't have the manpower or capabilities. you're just not up to the job. >> it is a good thing for that report. >> in the first instance it was the department calling now to make cyberspace a core mission. and a limited that. many people have come up to myself and others to say we have always known it was out there, but have never given it the attention. now we will. raising consciousness is an essential on them. we need to construct an ecosystem for cyberspace. it is about protecting information and your identity. it means he can engage in cyber activity confident your information is getting where needs to go safely. and that coming to you this coming from the person who says they're sending it. the federal government does not own all the cyberspace in the country. we cannot do it alone. we need to engage citizens who feel that they own their information and identity, but also the private sector needs to be engaged. >> accor

but moving through cyberspace everyday is 640 petabytes." he was trying to demonstrate how it's almost impossible to figure out what the bad guys are up to in that global soup. >> vanda, is there a way to control this? >> well, ah, to some extent. the competition between law enforcement and crime is competition and adaptation. and in many areas, interdiction, ah, the effort to go after the traffickers is frequently lacking because criminals have extraordinary adaptability. in something like cybercrime, this is extraordinarily hard. but i also emphasize that, um, while technology is a great enabler of many positive things in globalization, including the dark side of globalization and crime, much organized crime still takes place through very primitive methods. um, the habala systems in the greater islamic world, it's just changing money, literally, from hand to hand across large, ah, areas, across large spaces. and, so, we shouldn't too over focus on technology as either the culprit or technological fix as, ah, as the solution. >> i was going

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we have to create a new ecosystem entirely in cyberspace.the department will be at the center of that activity together with partners. and the attraction is that we're convinced as well as the commitment to the working environment is that we will -- the best and brightest. >> the secretary said she thought that government might be more tools to monitor the internet to keep track of privatisation. -- radicalization. what tools he needs? >> we know that the internet has had an extraordinary effect. there may not be such thing as a minority anymore because you confine your affiliation on the internet, and you can bypass the barriers to being a party of one or two feeling alone or isolated. and we need to understand the means by which people who feel disaffected are motivated to violence. it is that connection to violence that we're determined to get at. the internet service in some cases as an accelerant for that. we saw this with hate radio in rwanda in the 1990's. you do not blame the internet or radio, but what you understand that it is an a

greta cyberspace group with a couple hundred people and it we work on creating a nurturing productivesessions. i ask this then a month on the choice because of you pick something within a day and may turn out to be hard anyone acquitted. it's really important to give your new productive obsession a chance. >> don't self obsess on your obsession don't just dismiss it. eric is the author brainstorm, harnessing the power of productive obsessions. he is i should mention this is a psychotherapist as well as an author and creativity coach. thank-you for joining us. i would even mention the year of high school it was so long ago i do appreciate it and you didn't do your tax in pretty well. >> i don't know why or how but yes. >> taking so much it's been nice been talking to appeared to take a break when we come back we're going to talk about ageism and the march for h e escaut people over the age of, we'll be right back with kron 4 news weekend. live from the bay area's new station this is the kron 4 morning news. welcome back to kron 4 news weekend its 8:30 a.m. i'm marty gonzales were takin

we have to create a new ecosystem in cyberspace. the department will be at the center of that security. the attraction of that, we are convinced, will bring in the best and brightest. >> the secretary said that she thought that the government might need more tools to monitor the internet. what is she talking about? what tools? >> we the book -- we know that the internet has had an affect. there may not be any such thing as minority anymore. you can find your affiliation on the internet. you can bypass the barriers of being a party of one or feeling alone or isolated. we need to understand what are the means by which people that the iceland are motivated to violence. we know the internet service in some cases as an accelerant in that. we saw this with hate radio in rwaada. you do not blame the internet for do you do not blame review. what you understand is that it is an accelerant to violence evidence. what tools is she talking about when she says we need to monitor it? >> we need to understand . tools are not just technology. tools

the fourth thing we need to do is secure cyberspace. this is a new mission. cyber capability lies at the heart of so much of american life, and we need to visit -- build a resilience country. >> says the first of the year, 25 people who have either been native-born american or naturalized have been charged with terrorism crimes. there has been a lot of talkk within the department aaout community outreach. time to address the problem in that way. do you know if that works? >> what we do know -- i spent a lot of my career in national service, international relations and foreign policy. is that the last 15 years of my -- i spent the last 15 years virtually outside the country around the world. and there are a lot of methodologies about the violent conflict and terrorism. one thing that we fundamentally no, al qaeda is no methodology. its ability to attract followers and people, not only through discontent but to violence, it is real. and their people attracted to that idea elegy -- ann there are people here attracted to that ideology. >> what do you do about it?

the fourth thing we need to do is secure cyberspace. this is a new mission.ecause cyber capability lies at the heart of so much of american life. -pfinally, we need to build a brazilian country to face all risks. >> you described the threat as being external, sometting we have to keep out. since the first of the year, 25 people who were either native- born americans or naturalized americans have been charged with terrorism crimes. there has been a lot of talk within the department, i believe, about community outreach and trying to address the problem that way. do you know if that works? >> i spent a lot of my career in national security, international relations, foreign policy. -poutside the countrr virtually looking in an understanding conflicts around world. there are a lot of mythologies about violent conflict. one thing we fundamentally no -- al qaeda is no mythology, and its ability to attract followers and motivate people, not only to discontent, but to violence, is real. we know there are people here attracted to that ideology and who are themselves be