when something happens in cyberspace, we think the right response is in cyberspace back to it. ismight be a legal action required or a public shaming. locatedyear, they hacking activity into a building of the people's liberation army. >> they take all the chinese holidays off. >> exactly right. given your construct that you just presented, would it be in the purview of the u.s. government to shut that building attackth its own hacking were cyber activity? >> it might be. it depends on the nature of the provocation. in national affairs, there is the question of necessity and the right response. you have to apply limited means to be a responsible organization. the u.s. government has taken that problem on and given a rendition of the answer which i find elegant. two weeks ago, the u.s. government, as opposed to hacking back against the chinese, essentially indicted five individuals they found partially responsible for some of that theft of intellectual property. it is an interesting application of natural power. it gives the chinese an interesting situation. they say we did not d

what danger do you worry about most in cyberspace? >> if you have been reading the papers and talking to colleagues, i would say four things about cyberspace that are perhaps not well understood by the public. therefore, we still have some surprises that have creeped up on us. the first thing i would say is cyberspace is not this massive technology that vexes us. it is often considered as of technology we need to build up. it is a mix of technology, people, and critical process. it is a most impossible to tease one out from the other. you cannot delegate this to the i.t. shop and say to fix it. the other thing that is surprising is everything is connected to everything. convergence is the reality of that space. for those who think they have some firewall or protection that will hold them harmless, their hearts are generally broken. there are two kinds of people. those that know they have been hacked and those that don't know they have been. is we arereality storing [indiscernible] it was once a place where there were communications ra

who has the baton for the defense of cyberspace. i don't think it works that way. >> is the government doing enough? >> with the answer to that questi question. >> it's doing what it can, given what understanding there is at this time. there are many challenges in this space. first and foremost, i don't think we've got a strong enough understanding on what it really works and what the internal democraciys are, and second, therant is a well defined set of normative behaviors that said you stole my intellectual property, you're way out of the line, and they could say, i thought you wanted me to have it. that's disingenuous, because there's some options inside of that that are not entirely clear. we need to be very clear with ourselves, how does the space work, what are the dependencies? very clear about what the rules are, what we find accept, unacceptable, about the consequences and who has what role, and those roles need to be assigned to individuals, to organizations, to sectors, to governments. i don't think we have done that to t

it's possible to do that but it requires a fundamentally different approach to cyberspace. >> what cyberspace. >> what the worried most about? >> some people are waiting for a boom. there's a lot of discussion about this labour pearl harbor and this is the fact that the problem is already with us. it's not that we are going to hear clap of number -- a clap of thunder in the night. they will not be because we don't have the necessary investments at this moment in time. in a number of companies have suffered the loss of intellectual property and think they can weather even that because they will out innovate whatever adversaries they have in the world. i think that is increasingly less true than it was 20, 30 or 50 years ago. there are very worthy adversaries of the world and we not only have for intellectual property but can innovate with a bust of us. this is an insidious aspect which is the damage already done is the thing i worry that the most praise be a little bit of news you can use. what companies are most likely to be targeted? >> if you do something that has intellectual property that

is in cyberspace back at it. might be illegal actions require financial sanction or public shaming so within that construct, we heard last year about the conference. the hacking activity into a building, people's liberation army they were kate to 5 hacking, and take the chinese holidays off. they saw the traffic. given your construct you presented would it be in the purview of the u.s. government to shut the building down with its own packing at tak or cyberactivity? >> depends on the nature of provocation. in the conduct of national affairs, the question of what is the necessity and in proportion to the necessity what is the right response, what is a responsible organization. and given a rendition of that, it is elegant so few weeks ago the u.s. government as opposed to hacking back against the chinese nation status and entities within the chinese nation state in dade five individuals they have found partially responsible in the theft of intellectual property. very interesting kind of application of national pow

safeguarding and securing cyberspace. each and every day the united states faces a myriad of threats in cyberspace. from the theft of u.s. international property to cyberintrusions to the denial-of-service attacks against public web sites and attempted intrusions of u.s. critical infrastructure. to address these threats we have identified four strategic priorities. strengthen the security infrastructure by leveraging the work being done pursuant to executive orders 1336 on improving critical infrastructure and presidential policy directive 21 on critical infrastructure security and resilience each of which build on previous efforts u.s. government and national efforts to strengthen safeguard and secure cyberspace. securing the federal civilian government information technology enterprise by helping federal civilian agencies manage cybernetworks networks advancing law enforcement incident response and reporting capabilities," nation with our partners across the law enforcement incident response and reporting community and

the occupancy numbers i stated are the obtain cyberspace >> their active businesses in the space and you said the galleria is 20 percent or less than 80. >> yes. >> that's a pointed question it it stems from feedback from our tenant have you refused to represent new leases for the building other than the first floor. >> we have month to month leases and spoken and addressed many of those concerns about what is this transition looking like we can't have a to my left because it continues to have all those approvals but we have and will continue to work with each one and ideally it's across the street and at the same time keep the ground floor very viable and the continued with our point of view that ground floor pdr be really active space so again, we're not seeing the building switch to office and that pedestrian experience be lost those show rooms they do everything to make sure that's viable so we're working with each and every tenant those contraction and those that are have already vablthd and those who need future space. >> okay. so i understand you've made the offer to relocate

they meet in cyberspace. >> he was fishing for women on the internet. >> rebecca had sent suggestive pictures of herself. >> they made plans to meet face to face. >> they were getting all hot and heavy with each other. >> day later they were all dead. >> they all appeared to be execution-style murders. >> the killer disappears into thin air but not without a trace. >> every crime that happens these days probably has a digital component. >>> on average, 911 dispatchers in tulsa, oklahoma, receive about 3,000 emergency calls a night. one night they got a call about a fire that sounded routine. >> i can see flames but i can't really see smoke. the back of the house is lit up. >> what's your name? >> my name's kenneth. >> where are you calling from? >> my cell phone. i'm on my way home from my friends house. >> 911 operator told kenneth to stay on the line as firemen raced to the scene. then something strange happened. >> it appeared that there was some sort of interact with somebody that maybe was walking up to him. >> is there fire in there? okay. okay. >> hello. hello. >> when firemen

they meet in cyberspace. >> he was fishing for women on the internet. >> rebecca had sent suggestiveherself. >> they made plans to meet face to face. >> they were getting all hot and heavy with each other. >> day later they were all dead. >> they all appeared to be execution-style murders. >> the killer disappears into thin air but not without a trace. >> every crime that happens these days probably has a digital component. >

and there's a new push on capitol hill to think outside the box for new ways to scour cyberspace to find files the irs says are gone for good. >> you bring in the geeks and the nerds who actually know how this thing works and put them up on the stand, bring them in for a deposition, i think we'll get a whole different answer how this works. bring in the good people at microsoft. i doubt they built a product that made billions of dollars over the fact you could suddenly lose all of these e-mails. >> the oversight committee chairman, darrell issa, said sunday he has a hard time believing lerner didn't make paper copies of her e-mails and he thinks she broke some laws which referring some 1 million tax records to the doa, trying to get conservative groups in trouble. >> thanks a lot, peter. >>> new reports now indicating that not only did the father of a young georgia boy search for how long a child needs to be left in a car to die, but so did his mom. the father, justin harris, pleading not guilty to killing his son. family members held a funeral for the boy, while his dad sat in jail, cal

>> opportunity is massive in the cyberspace.oi wonder how you try figure out which problems to solve your company. >> what we are seeing is that nearly all the companies are breached. we put a company -- a report out there. full hundred 78 companies, 900 plus breached over different countries. most of the defense architecture is not working. a new company like firei can solve these problems. it is a helen opportunity -- hell of an opportunity. if you look at the growth on the top line, 132%, feeding and raising three consecutive orders, a powerful company being built. i think we have a powerful opportunity. >> go big or home. great stuff. david dewalt, fireeye ceo. some google services like mail and calendar disrupted in china. we will find out why, next. ♪ >> welcome back to "bloomberg west." google services from gmail to google translate in china appear to be disrupted ahead of the 25th anniversary of the tiananmen square crackdown. gmail traffic was cut in half over the weekend. in a statement to "bloomberg west," google says

>> opportunity is massive in the cyberspace. >> i wonder how you try to figure out which problems toolve your company. we will find out why, next. ♪ >> welcome back to "bloomberg west." google services from gmail to google translate in china appear to be disrupted ahead of the 25th anniversary of the tiananmen square crackdown. gmail traffic was cut in half over the weekend. in a statement to "bloomberg west," google says "we have checked extensively. there are note technical problems on our side." joining us is shaun rein, managing marker of chinese research group. this suggest that it is google getting shut down more, but it is our shutdown as it is. >> when you see google getting shut down, it is par for the course in china and businesses and people expect it. when you are getting to an anniversary of a politically sessile time or have the government have a political spat, google is the first company whose technical services are inaccessible in china. for the last 10 days, my company has had a lot of problems using google services. our e-mail services run on google small business

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there's a new push to think outside the box no new ways to scour cyberspace to find files the irs saysne for good. >> you bring in the geeks who know hoses it works, bring them in for a deposition, i think we'll get a different answer. bring in the good people at microsoft. i doubt they built a product that made billions over the fact suddenly you can lose all they e-mails. >> darrell issa said sunday he has a hard time believing lerner didn't make paper copies, and he thinks she broke the law, trying to get conservative groups in trouble. harris? >> thanks a lot, peet. a call for the geeks and in other words to help out. >>> does the freedom of religion extend to companies? the supreme court will weigh in on that tomorrow. a very interesting question at the heart. hobby lobby is suing the government over a provision of affordable care act or obamacare, which they say violates that are religious beliefs. >>> plus president obama is set to ask congress for billions. we'll tell you what he wants the money for. stay with us. [bell rings] this...is jane. her long day on set starts with sho

his site focuses on censorship and political crimes in chinese cyberspace. from boston, chai ling.he was one of the student 1989.s back in 1899 -- i'm pleased to have all of them here. let me go back. and whatbout that day led up to it, and beginning, i assume, with how the students began to congregate. >> it really was an extraordinary sort of episode and not just chinese history but any history. to be in the square during the weeks leading up to june 4 was like being at some incredible festival almost to read a as ifg of elation something had lifted. the press for the first time was absolutely free. people all across china weren't watching what was happening. feeling ofmazing sudden lack of repression. everybody, i think, believed that this was an inflection point. they would never get this genie back in the bottle, but of course, that was a very naÏve presumption. doand the death had what to -- >> he had been pushed out of power a couple of years earlier. hard-liners thought he hadn't cracked down hard enough on them. he was no great champion of liberalization, but given what ha

this is why i think it's a big gamble for her to somehow claim they've been lost in cyberspace. >> itinary that they're saying all of this now. because it makes you feel like this is bigger than we thought. joef treasury oversees irs. i wonder if there's a connection there. >> well, this is the exact question, maria. is it to treasury? we know it's to the political appointee in the treasury. the council that was appointed by the president. there's belief that this went all the way to the white house. don't forget, the irs commissioner at the time, mr. shulman, has visited the white house an unprecedented number of times for an irs commissioner and the lack of transparency here is going to feed the flame of fire. and these people are xwg the 72% in a recent fox poll showed more people believe something wrong happened and they want to know what happened. >> this is a suggestion that everybody who had anything to do with the restoration of tess e-mails be put under oath and asked to testify so maybe one of them won't want to cover up for a boss. >> yeah. but when you have lois lerner tak

his site focuses on censorship and political discourse in chinese cyberspace. and in boston, chai ling, one of the student leaders in tianamen square in 1989 and number four on china's most wanted list. i'm pleased to have all them here for an important conversation about an important day in chinese history. welcome. >> thank you. >> rose: let me go back, orville, and tell me about that day and what led up to it, and beginning, i assume, with how the student began to come and what the death had to do with it. >> it was an extraordinary episode i think in not just chinese history but any history, to be in the square during the weeks leading up to june 4 was like being at some incredible festival, almost, the feeling of sort of elation as if something had lifted. the press for the first time was absolutely free. people all across chine arp watching what's happening, and it was an amazingly-- a feeling of sort of sudden lack of repression, and everybody, i think, believed that this was an inflection point. >> rose: a moment of change. >> they would never get this

the cruel messages sent through cyberspace. >> you are so pathetic, it's so funny. >> who would dream up such an app? and what's being done to stop the bullying? >> it's monday, june 23rd. >> announcer: from abc news, this is "world news now." >>> good morning. i'm matt gutman. >> i'm reena ninan. matt gutman making his "world news now" debut. >> thank you, reena. >> welcome. >> it's so good to be here. very early in the morning. >> you have been everywhere. i have a question for you. what the heck were you thinking when you did this? >> sharks. that is a sharknado. that is a sharknado. >> are you not aware they have sometimes bitten the heads off human beings? >> sharks are our friends. they can be very friendly pets. >> where were you? >> in the bahamas. they go for the white pole -- that's me they're attacking. they go for the white pole, the color of flesh. generally they leave you alone. that's me scratching the belly. very friendly. >> what did your mom say when she saw this? >> she said, you're crazy. they're not as scary as they seem. sharks are not that dangerous. in fact, yo

. >>> facebook is gaining more ground this morning and not just out in cyberspace, it bought new land across the street from its headquarters currently. "today in the bay" bob redell is live in menlo park and details on how much bigger facebook might get. >> this almost doubles the land holdings that facebook would have here in menlo park. a ten-building located behind me that is being bought from the company called connectivity. a large piece of property that covers 59 acres here at 300 constitutional drive, right off highway 84, kiddy corner from facebook's main headquarters. in a statement to "mercury news" facebook confirmed the purchase but not how much with no immediate plans for development. this 59-ablinger parcel is next door to where facebook is building its so-called west campus an additional office space that will be available to accommodate several hundred more employees. this latest purchase demonstrates just how committed facebook is to growing its company here on the peninsula. you might recall three years ago when it moved into its current headquarters at the old sun

i think we need to impose a penalty for cyber crime in cyberspace, and to be able to have a way -- and there are difficult legal and policy issues here -- to take away the capacity of cyber criminals to conduct cyber threats. and until the day that we can pose, in some sense, asymmetric penalties for this kind of thing, i think it's not going to stop. i think just, you know, diplomatic interactions are not going to get us there. there has to be some real costs. and i would hope that there's a task force looking at what those costs could be, because i think, you know, i understand why they arrested the pla folks. i think that's not going to turn out to be the best or the most useful tool. >> -- not arrested -- >> sorry. indicted them. >> yeah. >> i apologize. >> i get the first public speech with respect to this. in the spring of 2013, with respect to calling on china directly. and i have a spent a lot of time with the chinese leadership and i think they were a bit surprised this came from me. as steve said we have massive, and had massive state enabled cyber theft. from the united stat

the cruel messages sent through cyberspace. >> you are so pathetic, it's so funny. >> who would dream and what's being done to stop the bullying? >> it's monday, june 23rd. >> announcer: from abc news,

and there will never be something -- >> cyberspace.hool and you senior were there that day, you are 88 ou years old today. >> that's right. years >> we're beginning to see the end of that generation that came that ashore that day. to sho >> that's the key point about how the 70th. we're not sure how many of the vets will be alive for the 75th.75 now when it was -- of course it was june 6, '44. now in '54 president eisenhower stayed at camp david and said i want nothing to do with this. >> why did he say that? >> because he was so self -- with the old school the greatest generation. i'm not going to grandstand. he didn't have image makers. lbj had promised after kennedy's assassination, i'm not going to lgj go abroad for a year so he y's didn't go and nixon had watergate in '74. reagan claimed d-day -- >> we see dwight eisenhower with the troops before he left. he had written a letter that would be read if in fact the invasion failed. >> yes.he one of the most moving documents in all of american history. eisenhower's admitting failure l

significantly wherever you are in the world because we will not put up with this just because it happens in cyberspacethat issue will dominate over the next 10 years. briefly, a counterterrorism you mentioned the threat from al qaeda but i do see the thread diminished in the region but at the same time i see the progeny of al qaeda at the franchise is thriving in the pork the governor or uncovered spaces around the gulf, north africa or the mediterranean. this remains a huge threat to us through the group's that have been in the news and others we wake up every morning worrying about and go to bet worrying about it with the confluence of that virulence with the progeny al qaeda with syria. it has become the breeding ground the training ground for thousands of chief toddies around several including dozens from the united states we can draw a line from afghanistan in the '80s three 9/11 and we're determined not to allow all of wine from today's syria to a future 9/11 and determined to anticipate the diaspora that will happen at some point and respond aggressively in advance. we also face the challenge f

some of them are metaphysical metaphors like cyberspace that helpless.for example in the issue of at the. this is a love that inadequately protects the cloud. we have now for years been arguing and its strong argument that the date of easter in the cloud is analogous and should be treated the same way in terms of privacy protection as is the day we stored in our personal file cabinets. i think we will ultimately win that battle but even with a metaphor it's taken many years. we are working on this issue that we have ready physical metaphors from football interception to telephone switchboard operators to drug sniffing dogs and you can distinguish that analogy and simply the idea of millions of people sitting there reading what everyone to e-mail we have some pretty strong arguments and analogies you can make. what freaks me out is when the technology could so weird that ready physical analogy, there are no ready physical analogies. we can barely keep up with easy issues and i consider this to be one of easy issues. when things get really really weird suc

i would say, though, in terms of space, cyberspace, in the common operating picture that i talked about for the region there is overlap, obviously between those dimensions of security cooperation and missile defense. it's not the same as. but they are the building blocks. in that sense, given our very close relationship with australia, one of the five country really so close with asia on these issues, is this an issue they're interested in in those dimensions and i think we should be working with them. but they're not going to be buying pac-3s and countries in the growing lines of growing capabilities. >> yeah. bad situational awareness. >> i'm a europeanist, so i'm going to reflect my views. >> i'm a recovering europeanist. >> mission defense has become a more animated interest. poland, for example, is buying an air to missile defense system. i think it's growing in the nordic countries. i don't believe they're drivens by the catastrophic ecliptic scenario of coming in with a ballistic warhead. i think they're more focused on conventional warheads being deployed through ballistic missi

luckily in a lot of ways, on a lot of these eissues, we have ready metaphors like cyberspace, that help us grapple with these things. in the issues of the e.c.p.a., it protects our data in the cloud. and we've been arguing for years and i think it's a strong argument that the data we store in the cloud should be treated the same way as the data we store at home in our personal file cabinets. even with a ready metaphor, it's taken many, many years. we're lucky we have a bevy of physical metaphors and simply the idea of millions of people sitting there reading everyone's e-mail, that we have some pretty strong arguments by analogy to make. what freaks me out is when the technology gets so weird that ready physical analogy -- there are no ready physical analogies. we can barely keep up with the easy issues and i consider this to be actually one of the fairly easy issues, when things get really, really weird such that there's no ready analogy to the physical world, that's when not only is the law not keeping up, it's falling far, far, far, far behind. >> i'll just make one point on the cont

wherever you are in the world because we're not going to put up with this just because it happened in cyberspace. so i thank you for your support, your attention to that issue. it's going to dominate what i do over the next ten years. briefly, counterterrorism, you, mr. chairman, mentioned the threat from al qaeda. i do see the threat from core al qaeda diminished thanks to the good work especially of our men and women in uniform. but at the same time i see the progeny of al qaeda, these virulent franchises of al qaeda thriving in the poorly governed or ungoverned spaces around the gulf, in north africa, around the mediterranean. this remains a huge diverse and significant threat to us through al qaeda in the arabian peninsula and many others. we wake up every morning worry being it and go to bed every night worry being it. i'm particularly worried about the confluence of that virulence among these progeny of al qaeda with syria. syria has become the breeding ground, the training ground for thousands of jihadists from around the world including dozens and dozens from the united states. all of us

i think we need to impose a penalty for cyber crime in cyberspace. and there are legal policies and issues here. to take away the capacity of cyber criminals to conduct cyber threats. until the day they with can pose in some sense asymmetric penalties for this kind of thing, i think it's not going to stop. i think diplomatic interactions are not going to get us there. there has to be some real cost. and i would hope that there's a task force looking at what those costs could be because i think, you know -- i understand why they arrested the pla folks. i don't think that's going to be the best or the most useful tool. >> or charge them, not arrested because we can't get to them. >> sorry. di indicted them. my apologies. >> i gave the first public speech with regard to this in the spring of 2013 with respect to calling out china directly. and i had spent a lot of time with the chinese leadership and they were surprised this came from me. but as steve said, we had massive and have massive state enabled cyber theft from the united states. and indeed we h

i think we need to impose a penalty for cyber crime in cyberspace and to be able to have a way and there are difficult legal and policy issues here to take away capacity of cyber criminals to conduct cyber threats. until the day we can impose in some sense asymmetric penls for this kind of -- i think it's not going to stop. i think just, you know, diplomatic interactions are not going to get us there. i would hope there's a task force looking at what those costs would be because i think, you know, the -- i understand why they arrested the pla folks. i think that's not going to turn out to be the best and most useful tool. >> sorry. >> indicted. >> my apologies. >> i gave. >> we had massive and have massive state enabled cyber theft from the united states. we have been engaged with the chinese on this, and i think -- i talk a little more broadly about it. i do think there has to be a policy, and i chicago the chinese did not perceive any costs to this up to the point that it was raised. they certainly would use the snowden revelation, as you pointed out, as a pushback with respect to the

significantly wherever you are in the world because we will not put up with this just because it happens in cyberspaceat issue will dominate over the next 10 years. briefly, a counterterrorism you mentioned the threat from al qaeda but i do see the thread diminished in the region but at the same time i see the progeny of al qaeda at the franchise is thriving in the pork the governor or uncovered spaces around the gulf, north africa or the mediterranean. this remains a huge threat to us through the group's that have been in the news and others we wake up every morning worrying about and go to bet worrying about it with the confluence of that virulence with the progeny al qaeda with syria. it has become the breeding ground the training ground for thousands of chief toddies around several including dozens from the united states we can draw a line from afghanistan in the '80s three 9/11 and we're determined not to allow all of wine from today's syria to a future 9/11 and determined to anticipate the diaspora that will happen at some point and respond aggressively in advance. we also face the challenge fro

now we find ourselves still fighting the same ideology of people who would use cyberspace to attack us, that would use airplanes to attack us, both of which were not envisioned by our founding fathers, both of which n get here far faster than a barbary pirate corsair could be rode across the atlantic ocean. that's changed the -- changed what we do. the select committee sees the intelligence we have and tries to address this appropriately. some of the things we need to do is intel on our enemies. i'm hope that this bill that just passed will contribute to making it safer for americans and make our enemies, who simply design that they would want to -- decide they want to kill us because we're not their religion, not their culture, not their, when i refer to them as a civilization, i have to put that in quotes, mr. speaker. but that's what's in front of us and as the select committee on intelligence delivers a bill to the floor about which most of us don't have inside knowledge of, we have to keep in mind what's happened with the intelligence community and the results of the attacks that

the ukrainian situation has bolstered an online war armies of trolls are clashing in cyberspace but no surprise is the russian squad which is being called out buzz feed reports that they were deployed to spread the kremlin's message by commenting on western media articles the website has even obtained some documents which describe in detail how it apparently works take a look at this each blogger they need to have six face put book accounts and published at least three posts a day to gain five hundred followers a month on twitter the micro bloggers are to manage ten accounts they need to have up to two thousand followers and tweet at least fifty times a day sounds like a lot of work to me joining me in the now tonight as head of our to use social media thanks for being with us ivor pleasure and he said a russian bots taking over the internet and seriously how common is this paid bonding look i think i think paid botting. emerged not long after i think corporate affairs and public relations companies realized that the internet was something that could be managed and knowledgeable and th