and there what you see is an even deeper cynicism in which tommy thompson is saying, we're going to run medicare in the ground in the meantime so that when it comes to this choice they want to make between taking a voucher for a certain amount of money in medicare, medicare actually won't be a viable option. that's the most damaging part of what he said because he explains the mechanics behind it. and baldwin, who is already ahead in that state, i think, is going to move farther ahead based on these comments. it betrays a real cynicism on behalf of tommy thompson, who is a guy who, at least back in the old days, had some support on a personal level in wisconsin. >> this is the the most radical he's ever been. >> exactly. >> howard fineman, great to have you with us. >>> lots more coming up on "the ed show." stay with us. >> new polling shows mitt romney getting destroyed among latino voters. tonight new details on how he threw a tantrum and stacked the crowd at the univision forum. >>> and his plan for the uninsured is an emergency room. tonight the fallout from the remarks that mitt ro

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i thought it was a brilliantly cynical speech. it was done a marvelously. the theme was he loves his children, his wife, his family, therefore he loves everybody. i buy the first three -- i think he has a terrific guy in that way. but it is a non sequitur. but her will recommend, if it is really an argument -- it was all anecdotes -- was that empathy his agenda. drain him of any ideological motive for his election. this is a guy extremely ideological and enormously ambitious. to pretend, as she did successfully, that there is none of that in him is a marvel. >> "brilliantly cynical." >> i just cannot believe he is going after them and's wife. i cannot believe he did that, but he did. >> because she is a woman? >> did you offer similar comments about ann romney's speech? >> it was a different speech by different woman. >> did she not also talk about her husband, feelings -- but no, let's not taldo that. when it comes to the obamas, for goodness sakes, they do nothing right. i will go ahead and accept that from you, charles. maybe to make you happy, they shou

but warning him of is harder than warming up obama. >> but cynical? >> oh, yes. of course it was cynical. >> abortion, contraception, the women's vote. >> the democratic party establishes of relentlessly through the johnny one note mantra that they are the pro- abortion rights a party. that has been the essential message of this convention up to now. people are worried a lot more about the economy and growth and their kids' future. this is a message to try to engage, i guess, emotionally, passionately, and actively purchase women in voting for barack obama. they must be concerned about not participating. >> johnny one-note. do you agree with that? >> i don't know if it is one-no, but they had accurately portray themselves as the party that cares about women and not waging war on women. they vote in greater proportions to the population and then to enter it mitt romney has a 20% gap with women. that means he is getting 20% fewer women than barack obama is. that is a huge gap for perhaps the most important voting bloc of america. >> charles? >> i am still struck --

again, he was a cynical. he wasn't an obstruction, but he was, i think, adamant that these protections exist. >> here's one way of putting that. they are cast a politically into the void. people who oppose the constitution, it could be better still. on to a federalist. they become cast out. did become presidents of the united states sent neil chase. so it's extraordinary. the process. >> think about it. it continues to play out. it's the same debate i hear people today make it seem as though the when you talk about limits on the national government that is antithetical to the constitution and the existence of the national demint. it's embedded in the original argument. the argument was always about limits. it was about -- in a, you hear this comments. these people are trying to push as back to the articles of confederation. that's ludicrous. that really is. the very man who pushed for these actually helped develop the constitution. so the debate when you move forward with you look at, it's almost argue about

i just want to say that i do agree it is easy to be cynical. "we" did not mean that everyone but to pick up on that then segue, but to appreciate how extraordinary the birthday is. 225 years ago, august 1887, a self government a system almost no wear on the planet. you have a few sheep and goat herter's in switzerland before the swiss bank. [laughter] holland and the netherlands is in the process of losing it. english has the house of commons and the hereditary came and of the house of lords. and the vast multitude with no self government russia, china, india, africa , europe mostly, tyrants. look at the previous millennia and a very few tiny city states because they cannot defend themselves even if democracy did exist with climate and culture, that is all of world history. i like our chances. i think i would say we the people. 225 years ago, way better better, more perfect for the first time ever in the history of the planet, an entire continent got to vote. there we're bought the exclusions but we've good not exist as a democratic country. i

again, he wasn't cynical.he wasn't an obstructionist, but he was rightly adamant that these protections list. >> maybe will start to move forward in time with your permission. >> the people who oppose the declaration of independence come you never hear again. they're basically cast politically into the void. the people who oppose the constitution think it could be better so than anti-federalist, they are not cast out. to become president to the united states. james merrill, vice president of rich jerry, justice on the supreme court. they are kept in the process. >> but think about it. it continues to play out. it's the same debate. what are the limits? you know, i hear people today make it seem as though we do talk about the miss on the national government, but that is antithetical to the constitution come existence of the national government. it is embedded in the original argument. the argument was always about limits. all these people are trying to push us back to the articles. that is unhelpful. the very m

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i'm just being cynical. jack, am i being too cynical? >> no, you're not, larry.t's not something anybody wants to talk about. you're talking about people suffering out there. but the bottom line is this, as the democrats start their celebration to failure, one can only hope that people wake up and make a change in november. the reality is the next couple of months, unless we see huge job number, i think that people have already made up their mind from an economic standpoint. but, you know, what you just said was absolutely right. if you see a bad number this friday, get ready. you have got a fed that is ready to pull the trigger, a fed chairman that's already told us that he's going to step in. in fact, the market has already priced in the fed put and the ecb put for that matter. >> and gold prices are booming, jack. now, does that not suggest a whole market is waiting for fed stimulus? >> absolutely. some people think strategic doesn't mean strategic, it's just to keep prices down. >> you've got some serious prices. china is probably in worse shape than people t

and that's why -- >> this goes to the problem where i think the bigger problem for romney, it's so cynical. >> yes. >> that, you know, there is no optimism in this at all. there is no attempt -- you're going, boy, you have already conceded that there's just -- you're never -- if you get in here, going to get in by the skin of your teeth and you're going to be forced to govern by the skin of your teeth. >> let me just point out -- >> that candidates in the past, including barack obama in 2008, running in pennsylvania, in the primary against hillary clinton, was caught by the same kind of hidden audio, not video, hidden audio in a san francisco fund-raiser, this is what he had to say and still haunted by these comments. let's listen. >> i want to bring michael isikoff in this. the press spokesman, the spres secretary for mitt romney, the campaign, said mitt romney wants to help all americans struggling in the obama economy. she put out this statement. that from getcho. michael isikoff, let's talk about the providence of this. how is this recorded, where was it recorded? we understand you've

>> i think it's mostly cynical manipulation. i think now unfortunately in parts of the islamic world there's a kind of outrage industry, you know? where people are there trying to fine things that they can then wind up the troops and launch them, usually at american targets. >> jon: right. >> you know, if you have the leader of hezbollah saying that this was all planned by u.s. intelligence-- >> jon: they have not seen what we can do. (laughter) we don't pull a lot of this stuff up. you know, what struck me is this comes from youtube and it's some guy. is it because in that part of the world the government does control a lot of the material that comes out so they have a hard time imagining just individuals uploading something on their own? >> or they can be fooled to think that it's somehow part of the government. the government had to approve it because, you know, you live a part of the world that the government has to approve everything. if you want to take a photograph of your wife, the government has to approve it. but it's-

tavis: what say you about the increasing cynicism of the american people? i am not one who believes that is not without a legitimate reason, but what is your sense about the cynicism that seems to be running amok and when our body politic is concerned? >> it is legitimate, because our system is very broken. it can only produce sub-optimum solutions. at the same time the public is idealistic. the american public is waiting to be called to something larger than ourselves here again we are talking about the question of job creation and what can we do. good what can we do to actually accelerate job creation on the grounds that we cannot wait as bystanders, hoping against hope someone in washington is going to come up with a solution. it is amazing. we have got foundations committing $1 million to the most innovative job creation idea, and the ford company contributing to help community colleges, non from on who -- not-for-profit groups, all coming together. it reminds me a little bit of what happened during the second world war. people were buying liberty bonds

a cynical point of view. i just wrote a column saying i choose not to believe that.ut in washington are people saying that bernanke is going political? >> certainly some are. bernanke is worried about the fed being politicized. if he didn't think this was the right move, he's an institutionalist, he would not harm the fed if he didn't think this was the right move to make right now. >> you do not think he's caught up in some political jet stream. >> i don't think he wants to be fed chairman another term anyway. >> governor rendell, do you want to be fed chairman? >> absolutely not. >> there you go. >> we'll have to get out. thank you all. governor ed rendell, jim pethokoukis, jennifer rubin. up next "trading the globe." thanks for watching. at usaa, we believe honor is not exclusive to the military, and commitment is not limited to one's military oath. the same set of values that drive our nation's military are the ones we used to build usaa bank. with our award winning apps that allow you to transfer funds, pay bills or manage your finances anywhere, anytime. so tha

i'm not thinking about this from a cynical political perspective, it's life or death issues. >> a lotnding the war in iraq, right? the status forces agreement negotia negotiated, and the president did end the war at the end of the day. we keep up a force of paid mercenaries behind, but troops have been brought them. i think that is in one column. there is extension, the surge in afghanistan, right? 87,000 troops there and the deadline for that. there is the decision to order the strike against osama bin laden, and then there is the massive drone policy and end all of engagements in terms of bombing and drones. we're going to continue this conversation on our website msnbc.com. and our usual time slot at 8:00 eastern. for this special afternoon edition of up, we have to cut it short here. i want to thank peter, telsey, jeremy, and michelle. thank you for getting up. thank you for joining us for this special afternoon edition of up. we'll have sam deler here at our regular time next sunday, and i will be with bill maher tonight. coming up next is melissa harris-perry. mhp follows the me

social media and blasting it out into the universe so that that's the promising side that's the none cynical side and lastly do want to ask you because we are in the thick of everything in terms of the election it's an election year and it is there in the election year is that more people do you usually turn. to find out what's going on you know on the national level but this survey also found that less people are turning in to national politics turning into line about national politics on the news this year as opposed to two thousand and eight why do you think that is well you have i think sort of it's fatigue because you've had pacs and super pacs and other organizations that have been. you know it used to be peppering the public airwaves now it's blanketing suffocating shrouding with with largely negative ads so there's there's suffocation there there's that. fatigue in suffolk so if a cation factor but i think a lot of it is people are looking at these alternate news sources they might tune in for a story on t.v. or read some in the newspaper or go on the magazine or newspaper site but t

buy into the cynicism. is it possible? well, change will not happen. it to give up on the idea that your voice can make a difference than the other voices will fill the voice with special- interest, lobbyists. people that want to purchase the election and make it more difficult for you to vote. washington politicians that want to control who you can marry or your health rights. >> also joe biden took the stage saying that america is in a better place now. he gave a large positive speech. for president obama's character and leadership. >> folks, i have watched it. he has never wavered. he has never, ever backed down. he always steps up. and he always asks in those critical meetings the same fundamental question. how is this going to effect the average american? how is this going to effect average lives? that is what is inside of this man. to watch all the speeches, uninterrupted, go to our new channel. comcast 193 for the latest news, weather and traffic updates. it is just two months from election day also

you have a cynical president in egypt who wanted to let them vent their anger and direct their wrathie man so that they will not focus on the miserable condition in cairo. now he realizes that he let the genie out of the bottle. now he's trying to contain the situation. his reaction really was insensitive. in fact, even appalling issuing that statement later on essentially not even mentioning what happened to the american embassy in cairo, which is really incredible. >> well then do you believe based on what you're explaining to me, do you think there will be more attacks on embassies and consulat consulates? >> i would expect, yes. this is a funny phenomenon that you might call political copy cat. there is competition against these groups to show anti-americans or anti-imperial lists or anti-west. this is really mostly a local condition, competition among the various groups. the more we talk here in this country, president obama, secretary clinton, the more we talk about religion, we are playing into their hands in many ways. that's what they want. >> so what can the united states d

i'm not sure romney is that cynical. he might be. thank you jim vandehei, thank you joy ann reed.ing up next, why are these people talking out of school in not seven weeks before the election day and everybody is talking about that campaign. is it too late for them to change? well, he doesn't seem to want to change. >>> also, four more americans this is hardball, a place for politics. in america today we're running out of a vital resource we need to compete on the global stage. what we need are people prepared for the careers of our new economy. by 2025 we could have 20 million jobs without enough college graduates to fill them. that's why at devry university, we're teaming up with companies like cisco to help make sure everyone's ready with the know how we need for a new tomorrow. [ male announcer ] make sure america's ready. make sure you're ready. at devry.edu/knowhow. ♪ with features like scanning a barcode to get detailed stock quotes to voice recognition. e-trade leads the way in wherever, whenever investing. download the ultimate in mobile investing apps, free, at e-trade.

i hate to even suggest such a thing because a level of cynicism in chicago while it would match whatahn emanuel once said, not to ever waste a crisis. in chicago and cook county, this is a crisis. could it be the decisions have already been made about the kids and the pay levels and the length of days will come together, all of this is designed to discomfort parents, to annoy the kids and to disrupt the system so they will be thrilled to have any resolution, one that will come at a day, a week, even bringing president obama. bring him in and have a last-minute resolution. so all this goes down to all the people paying through the nose again. not be earned by the teachers in chicago. that couldn't be. because it is all about the kids, right? lou: this was supposed to be a post-racial era. this president and government have turned martin luther king dreamed upside down. what we put up with those who are racially dismissive? although the book "blackwards." when does the stonewalling and? hundreds of mexican citizens and border patrol agents murdered by an obama justice department progra

you hate cynicism. >> i hate cynicism, that's true. can i call it skepticism?of youth, you haven't been slapped enough in your life to see -- >> i've been slapped enough. becky has news on apple. >> apple shares crossing $700 for the first time last night in afterhours trading. it hit $600 for the first time six months ago. among the catalyst news the tech giant sold 2 million new iphones in thes first 24 hours of presales. >>> last hour we spoke with dallas fed president richard fisher, here is what he had to say about uncertainty for businesses. >> the real uncertainty stems from what are my taxes going to be? what kind of spending patterns will be coming out of the federal government, how do i deal with this explosion of regulatory morass we have coming out of washington? how do you budget whether you are exxon or a little bitty 20-person company? >> joining us now for the rest of the program, dino cos, former executive vice president for the new york fed. thanks for coming in this morning. >> good morning. >> where you are on qe3? >> the big news was what t

it seems in the cynicism, will have a bad government. if your hopes have been dashed again and again, then it is best to stop hoping and settle for what you already know. i get that. i realize i am not the likeliest candidate for the job. i don't fit the typical pedigree, and i have not spent my career in the halls of washington. but i stand before you tonight because all across america, something is stirring. what the naysayers don't understand is that this election has never been about me. it is about you. [cheers and applause] it is about you. for 18 long months, you have stood up, one by one, and said enough to the politics of the past. you understand that in this election, the greatest threat we can face is to try the same old politics with the same all players and you have shown what history teaches us, that at defining moments like this one, the change we need does not come from washington, change comes to washington. >> from denver four years ago, as you listen to barack obama from that convention speech, a new book out that has

it appears to have a deeply cynical purpose to denigrate a great religion and to provoke rage. there is no justification. none at all. for responding to this video with violence. >> now of course you can count on the "good morning washington" team to bring you all the latest developments from overseas as they happen. you can look for updates on wjla.com and facebook and our twitter pages. >> khalifi pleaded guilty in june. undercover before he was arrested in february he showed up at the capital wearing a vest that the agents filled with explosives. >> two sheriffs deputies scheduled to be sentence. george phillips faces up to life in prison after robbing banks and businesses and kidnapping a woman. in 2010 he pleaded guilty to shooting and wounding two deputies. he is also suspected of killing a patient at a state psychiatric hospital. >> this afternoon, they will hold a memorial of the junior shot to death as he walked to school tuesday morning. it comes on the heels of an emotional vigil. >> heart wrenching sobs pierced through songs. a candlelight vigil was at times too muc

but to pick up on tom's cynicism, if you're a motorist in the city, for example, and you pick up a ticket for a non-life-threatening violation, but a violation nonetheless, a right turn and a no-right turn, you face a very stiff repercussion. you've got a points on your record, and you have to go to traffic school for eight hours. and if you do it within a certain amount of time, you're going to get another hit and you're going to have a hit on your insurance. almost all, if not every driver, in the state knows you really want to avoid a moving violation, even if it is a minor moving violation because there are severe economic and personal repercussions. my question to is you: what are the repercussions on a person on a bike who gets a ticket. you don't have an expensive insurance policy. you can't kill somebody as easily with a bike, but you can, kind of. so i guess what i'm going to get at is just to leave it to you to answer the question for me, which is: what are the repercussions, and have we done enough to make them serious, and to educate people as to what they are? >> that's a gre

. >> there is cynicism in the ability of washington to do anything in people's lives. i wonder if it is the administration or congress or any piece of legislation that could be credited by a large portion of population for improving benefits of people's lives because there is such lying cynicism about the institution. this is one of the themes of michael's books. especially the tax cuts that no one ever knew happened. you have the example of a rebate. if congress is pulling a 12% approval rating, it will never occur that any improvement in people's lives is due to them. have the democrats created a successful theme in -- >> we are in a moment where they are philosophically opposed to government intervention in markets. that could include the government and big business. i do not think those are the assumptions. >> republicans accuse obama of representing the government. obama accuses romney of representing big business. >> that does not mean the voter has to choose one over the other. we should be clear. campaigns have debates. candidates have debates with one another

those are good measurements to look at. >> cynical, pessimistic, but still insightful.hanks for coming on, spencer. >> thanks for having me. melissa: what is the impact of the fed decision on you and me? here in a fox business exclusive, tom stemberg, cofounder of staples. way want to get to it. saw think decision is nonsense. how come? >> i'm not sure it is nonsense. it will not make much difference. kind of remind the kid that rides indy ride at disney world and steering wheel doesn't do anything because you're riding on tracks. this will not do much to fix the american economy anymore than president obama's stimulus plan, promised you would take the unemployment rate down to 5.6%. we're now sitting at about 2 1/2% higher than that. we need to get this economy moving is to have leadership that will balance the budget, create confidence in the american economy, and begin to create jobs. this fooling around with monetary markets will not make a difference. small business still pays --. melissa: only tool it has at its despose ael wants to get a job. they're out there bu

first of all, if you wanted the cynical view, the republicans were not going to give them anything. democrats control the senate. the bill is meant to increase hiring and job training for veterans, particularly those who have served in afghanistan and iraq. part of the problem with republicans said that there were other things the government should be doing. they said this was a political exercise that they do not as a really need the government's help. sen. rand paul is a real credit of this saying he would just block the bill entirely for various reasons. he wanted to stop american aid to pakistan until they free their position on the u.s.. this tied up the session all week and they appeared to reach a discussion and they will vote on the 19th. >> the house finishes up the continuing resolution. it will go to the senate now. what is the consensus on when the senate might get to it? >> they were talking about wednesday, thursday, friday. the senate wants to leave the to go home to campaign at the end of next week. there probably will not be a huge controversy over the six month ext

the first one is cynical. i've been trying to get them to pass that housing bill ever since they met the first time, and it is still resting in the rules committee, that bill is. [applause] i've been trying to get congress to do something about it ever since they came there, and that bill is in the house of representatives. look at that. increasing social security benefits. they took 10,000 people off the social security roll. i wonder if they think they can fool the people of the united states with such poppycock as that. [cheers and applause] i discussed these affairs of the republican 80th congress and every one of them is important. to a major concern. the failure to do anything about high prices, and the failure to do anything about housing. my idea as president requires that i use every means within my powers to get the laws on matters of urgency. i am therefore calling this session back into session on the 6th of july! [cheers and applause] on the 26th day of july, which out in missouri, we call thursda

i can't tell if these guys are cynical, clueless or in denial. we will be right 4h$h ( cheers and applause ) >> jon: welcome back. my guest tonight, he was the 7th secretary-general of the united nations. most recently the u.n. and arab league envoy to syria. his new book is called interventions, a life in war and peace. please welcome to the program kofi annan. ( cheers and applause ) >> thank you, sir. nice to see you. >> jon: how are you? thanks for joining us. the book is called interventions. let me ask you this. how's the world? >> messy. jon: it is messy. it is messy. jon: you have been following these events for a very long time. would you say in your estimation on the kofi annan scale of peace in our time to "oh, my god, run! "where would you say the world is right now? >> you're close to run. jon: really? more than in previous times, even the bosnian conflict, people were involved in >> today we have syria's problem in the middle east and the whole region. if syria has a miscalculation can really create a problem, we will not be able to

um, the political science answer is probably a little more cynical.barry goldwater was once giving advice to richard nixon -- how's that for a hour risk combination? [laughter] and when asked how would you build a coalition, goldwater said go hunting where the ducks are, right? if you want to get elected, find the votes. and abraham lincoln is the guy who said god must love the poor people, he made so many of them. you want to get elected, the democratic party has always had, to the the the extent that the democratic party has bodies. as will rogers said, they're not organized. but if you want to build a political coalition, you're going to have big chances if you can bring in the new immigrant groups, african-americans who at that time were voting only in the urban north and always for republicans. so he went hunting where the ducks were. >> thank you. >> sure. i don't know if that actually helped, but -- other questions? >> mary, during world war ii there was a concerted effort -- [inaudible] to look out so that soldiers overseas -- [inaudible] in t

so they thing it was more of a cynical ploy for power.owever, we have political objectives in the country and we have to work, sometimes, with unsavory people, in order to advance our own interests. >>shepard: thank you, christian, from the los angeles bureau. thank you, christian. >> well, the royal family just score add big legal victory in connection with the pictures that show prince william's wife without a shirt on. of course, i mean, how do you put the toothpaste back in the tube? the pictures of her shirtless are...well, they are out there. if you want to see them you are a click away. details on the royal photo problem coming up. with less chronic osteoarthritis pain. imagine living your life with less chronic low back pain. imagine you, with less pain. cymbalta can help. cymbalta is fda-approved to manage chronic musculoskeletal pain. one non-narcotic pill a day, every day, can help reduce this pain. tell your doctor right away if your mood worsens, you have unusual changes in mood or behavior or thoughts of suicide. antidepress