statements like people like allen west or cynthia mckinney. steve wrote earlier when we singled out allen west who said, you will recall, that between 79 and 81 democrats in the house are members of the communist party, and he wrote, well, what about cynthia mckinney. i don't remember the democrats condemning her. so i just went back and looked and, -- we have this, a faulty timer. and, i got a whole bunch of newspaper and other clippings, democratic leader condemns mckinney. democrats get distance from mckinney. so there are differences here. on that front. but more significantly, is so much of this is a matter of degree and not kind but also some of the unprecedented things that itch mentioned. we want to look at blocking nominations, i can show you chart after chart of the number of nominations blocked compared to what we had in the reagan years, and the swiftness with which executive and judicial appointments went through. if we want to talk about cooperating with the president instead of drawing lines in the dust, i look at just two point