. >> now, cynthia sherry, you have a whole series of books for the civil war. >> this is a book that we published a number of years ago called "civil war for candidates" and -- for kids" and it's part of our series for kids aims 12 and up, ask we have an abraham lincoln for kids and the underground railroad. >> what's your web site? >> we web site i www.chicago revue press.com. >> cynthia sherry, the publisher of chicago review press. >> in your book you talk about one of the life changing moments. you're watching the justice thomas, anita hill hearings. what happened to andrew? >> i just graduated from college. it was like my bar mitzvah. i thought i would learn an education about judaism, but i left feeling very empty because i just learned how to chant. i was open for a spiritual experience. i didn't get it. i flint the exact same way -- felt the exact same way in where where i was an american history major, and the stuff i was reading was infrom presentsive and was -- it was demoralizing, and i graduated less skilled, less motivated, and i was a waiter. >> you. >> my education wa