mathews phosa, cyril ramaphosa and whoever in concert, they are not anc... what!own right. there is a whole lot of disciplined numbers of the anc who have not sought to express any view in the manner in which some of the views have been expressed. you are telling me that the vice president cyril ramaphosa, one of the strugglers for the liberation of south africa, you're telling me, that cyril ramaphosa does not for you represent the anc? no, he is a leader of the african national congress, where i'm correcting you is that views expressed by individuals who are members of the anc don't necessarily represent what the anc, represent the position of the african national congress. if mathews phosa has got a view about zuma to go, he knows that that view is not shared commonly, it is not the view that the majority of members of the anc agree with. one specific point, minister. there is still debate, and it is not yet settled, as to whether the next vote of confidence or no—confidence injacob zuma in the south african parliament should be by secret ballot. those who want

he isa represent the anc, cyril ramaphosa?ting you is views expressed by individuals who are members of the anc did not necessarily represent what the anc represents in the national african congress. if mathews phosa has a view about zuma to go, it is not the view that the majority of the anc members have. there is still debate not yet settled weather the next vote of confidence or no—confidence injacob zuma should be by secret ballot. those who want him to go believe that a secret that it would give politicians much more freedom to express their real feelings about jacob zuma. let me put you on the spot, to use support the democratic idea of a secret ballot? our constitution does not allow that in terms of the voting process is in parliament but equally, we have been tested to their limit. to think that the african national congress can actually take a position to take itself out of power, simply because the opposition wants that, we are here in parliament as an date of all voters and we will never take ourselves out of power

and the more, the more cyril talked about it. we need to bear witness to this.a filmmaker. have a camera. have a little camera. need to get down there and find some of the people. record the struggle. when we start airing this series, five nights this coming monday. what's different about the treatment you have given this documentary. one could argue not nearly enough. how the treatment is different on this particular project. >> this, this piece. we call it new home movies from the lower ninth ward. sort of what they are. wept down the first two seasons. joined later. we visited homes. like the house here. welcomed them into the homes. welcomed the opportunity to share their experiences with us. i think as far as i know, we are the only record thus far. of, of -- they literally to me. heroic struggle of trying to, keep your home. rebuild your neighborhood. when you say heroic struggle. tell me what you mean by that. we use it in a glib sort of whey. when you say hero. in this area. against all the odds. coming back to the lower ninth ward. what do you mean by h

cyril?rter: george, it is indeed a pleasure to be with you and our viewers from central paris. this just hours really before french people go to the polls. it's about 11:30 a.m. local time now. people will start going to the polls tomorrow, sunday morning. i've got with me a historian and political scientist that knows french politics very well and u.s. politics very well. one thing that's peculiar about this election cycle here in france is how much it has in common with the u.s. election cycle. let's start with the endorsement of emmanuel macron by barack obama. why did he do that? >> well, you know, i don't know if it will bring him luck because barack obama campaigned against brexit. and you know how it turned out. they do have a lot in common. they're basically middle of the road, what the europeans would call social democrats. you could call them, you know, mainstream democrats in the u.s. they are very close in their economic, social, international, philosophy. >> reporter: he doesn't

cyril kirkland, cutter vigorous. edmund joseph custer ii, cutter monroe.oseph labelle, mechanical engineering, cutter bursktoff. his commission will be presented by his father, u.s. navy retired. jordan samuel, civil engineering, cutter midget. his commission will be presented by his uncle, u.s. coast guard retired. mechanical engineering, flight school. alexander joseph lane, management, cutter joseph. yvonne, marine environmental science, cutter active. patrick wagner legend, electrical engineering, fulbright scholarship. kyle stanley leiby, mechanical engineering, cutter forward. joshua thomas lipp, mechanical engineering, cutter tampa. nicholas paul, operations research, cutter tahoma. kirsten page logan, electrical engineering, cutter valiant. monica rachel, naval architecture, cutter douglas monroe. susanna shey lyle, mechanical engineering, cutter seneca. taylor michael lion, marine environmental science, cutter spencer. james trout madden, civil engineering, cutter spencer. charles magesky, operations research, cutter dau ntless. louise fernando, n

. >> host: that was cyril and -- >> guest: yeah.lost my father this past -- or. >> host: in december. >> guest: yeah. he was 89, so it was a full life. i still miss him. he was a wise, wise man. and i think in modern times we forget what wisdom is. you know, there are people who know a lot and they talk a lot and they're pundits. wise people don't talk a lot. they do more observing than talking. and then somewhere in their head mixed with their life experience they digest it and then come out with simple, easy-to-understand perspectives that then sort of live with you with. of course they'll live with you because they're the digestion of so many different pieces that you didn't necessarily have access to. but they did because they've lived longer than you, and they're observant their whole lives. >> host: 2012, your book space chronicles came out. and in that book on page 234 you write that our nation is turning into an id i don't care rah city. grid i don't care rah city. >> guest: was i that harsh? >> host: that's why i wrote the