mathews phosa, cyril ramaphosa and whoever in concert, they are not anc... what?!n right. there is a whole lot of disciplined numbers of the anc who you have not sought to express any view in the manner in which some of the views have been expressed. you are telling me that the vice president cyril ramaphosa, one of the strugglers for the liberation of south africa, you're telling me, that cyril ramaphosa does not for you represent the anc? no, he is a leader of the african national congress, where i'm correcting you is that views expressed by individuals who are members of the anc don't necessarily represent what the anc, represent the position of the african national congress. if matthews phosa has got a view about zuma to go, he knows that that view is not shared commonly, it is not the view that the majority of members of the anc agree with. one specific point, minister. there is still debate, and it is not yet settled, as to whether the next vote of confidence or no—confidence injacob zuma in the south african parliament should be by secret ballot. those who w

he isa represent the anc, cyril ramaphosa?ting you is views expressed by individuals who are members of the anc did not necessarily represent what the anc represents in the national african congress. if mathews phosa has a view about zuma to go, it is not the view that the majority of the anc members have. there is still debate not yet settled weather the next vote of confidence or no—confidence injacob zuma should be by secret ballot. those who want him to go believe that a secret that it would give politicians much more freedom to express their real feelings about jacob zuma. let me put you on the spot, to use support the democratic idea of a secret ballot? our constitution does not allow that in terms of the voting process is in parliament but equally, we have been tested to their limit. to think that the african national congress can actually take a position to take itself out of power, simply because the opposition wants that, we are here in parliament as an date of all voters and we will never take ourselves out of power