as far as the czars eneille obama administration i am with you. it was jfk came into office, fearful of the government wanted to sir clemsen-- circumvent roosevelt because you couldn't get these done if those government bubeaucrats got in the way and one of the interesting sort of reversals in our potics is that coervatives once recognized the value of having bureaucrats running mh of government because they would slow things down. it is not in the nature of bureacrats to speed change along but quite the opposite, to volve iall in red tape. that is when we go back and look at herbert hoover d.c. his defense. herbert hoover was a progressive as we rember. is defense of efficient government, he didn't understand why coolidge wasn't regating wall street more. these we ideas that one's head their bases i conservatism. one other point that wilmake about that is there has been some discussion in the progressive, the original progressive movent that lasted from 1900 to 1915, a movement that permeated both movements anfirst the repubcan party and i guess