beforeis was two years the annexation of austria, czechoslovakia, before krystalnacht. theirws would not have full rights, but they were not murdering people in the streets. but there had been people covering the regime in its first three years, and they could see what was happening. a writer in his diaries saw it at the time. a british diplomat said it was crazy to go to the games. another american communicated the same thing to the state department, but there were a lot of smart people who chose to think that things had gone is that as they would get. bert: i want to take another question from our audience. audience member: and the lipids, he had already won that 220 in the broad jump, before the relay. could you explain a little bit the decision to drop two jewish guys whose times were best end up, so that that for some would have one. to drop them and put another fellow as a sub? complicateds a story, and it has been miss told for a long time. if you want me to get into it in n three golde wo medals, and everyone expected he was done. expected to compete in the 100

the story is told in a documentary dojc worked on with another emigre from the former czechoslovakia,ya krausova. the two began by seeking out and listening to the stories of holocaust survivors. so you went to meet these people essentially, right? one led to another. >> exactly. so here is a mixture and a selection of some that, by the time i joined him, were dead, and others that we had found together like this couple. >> brown: tell me about them. >> they're very important to the whole story because we heard about them in another town. and she didn't want to even let us come to the house. and eventually i said, "can we just come and have tea?" and once we were there, she said, "i might as well tell you my story, maybe nobody will ever come again to ask." and so she told us her story, very strong woman who talked about how they were betrayed and how when they were taken to the camps, they actually believed that they were going to work. >> brown: almost all of these people are now gone. in "last folio," the two try to capture what remains. so these are books literally sitting on the

my high school was a diplomat and we were in czechoslovakia.nd we heard the russians spoke which was a shock. it came in such at 1st we did not know. they invaded the country. i was raised; ages. to me and was like okay, someone invaded. so we slowly immigrated to the united states. the gave a father was going to give him citizenship, green card. so to make a long story short we ended up staying for 25 years. september 11 happened. when september 11 happened my father was one of the 1st people that went. so sorry opportunity because a lot of were telling me don't go, it's dangerous. i have such passion to go back and dollars of people being and suffering and having all the opportunities that i had in the united states. so there were three of us. i live in california. which started -- we decided to start doing fundraising and did so because i used to do a lot. but this time it was different. it is time to go. go and take exams. let's -- let's overcome that. the war in the towel, but after that i decided to go back. >> what was it like when you w

the czech republic or czechoslovakia i believe it is of paramount importance. i also mentioned in my speech. that is the significant that trans-atlantic corporation and partnership in the e.u. and the united states of america. it is important for the united states of america in spite of their own political challenges, priorities and issues, should not forget what is happening in europe it has one of the 20th century tip place always had an impact on the global level. whatever happens in central europe and the balkans, it started a first world war. what happened in germany and central europe in 39, it started the second world war. what happened in the 60s and central europe actually enabled by fall of the communist regime later on because this is the first time the regime lost its credibility by invading prague was soviet tanks in 1989. again, another important indication and a kind of lesson for the united states to realize that it's important to pay attention to what is happening in europe. coming back to ukraine, i'm very happy the e.u. so far has been united

or vietnam or czechoslovakia or russia you saw the communist push for reform from thin, the united states assisted them in transitioning to a capitalist economy. or do they go the route of china where the u.s. government -- i'm sorry, go on. >> let's go ahead and talal about what we're seeing here, the signing of this document right hereafter that wreath laying. just another historic moment happening in havana with a president who has said that he wants what happens here this -- he wants this reapproachment to be irreversible and is that achieved? the cuban people who are speaking with him right now, greeting, welcoming him very warmly also are aware that his presidency is on thth way out. >> the preside has definitely given a lot of concessions. he's opened up the embassy, and relations between the united states and cuba. is this going to translate top an elimination of the embargo? it's highly doubtful because when it comes to the embargo, you have to deal with interest group politics and you tend to have industries or business associations basicallyyaking on the cuban-american lobby in

i went to the kosovo, serbian, and croatian parts of yugoslavia, into hungry, into czechoslovakia andast germany. brian: how many times have you been there since? robert: i went back to romania in 1982, 1983, 1984. after 1984i published an essay in the new republic called romanian gymnastics, why it is like stalin's russia. i was no longer even a visa after that. so i did not go back until 1990, four months after the 1989 revolution. i spent two months in the country in 1990. then i was back for another month in 1998 for another book. then i went back for an extended visit in 2013. i made four extended visits in 2013 and 2014. brian: i want to run some video from 1989. we will have you explain what this is. [begin video clip] [crowd chanting] [speaking foreign language] [crowd chanting] [crowd chanting] [end video clip] brian: who was he? robert: nicolae ceau?escu had been in power since 1965. he replaced the previous dictator. the previous dictator brought stalinism to romania. he was a brutal tyrant. what nicolae ceau?escu did was to add the north korean element to romanian stalinis

an airliner from czechoslovakia, a communist country, antares to agreeairspace airbases. it is headed for the north american air defense command. american fighters have tried everything they can do, short of shooting it down, to stop it. they look in. the lights are on and it is full of people. there you are on the phone at 2:00 in the morning. what will you do? hart: if the people had uniforms on, i would shoot the aircraft down. if they were civilians, i would let it keep going. >> i would share the same judgment. as we saw with the korean airline's situation, when you shoot down an innocent civilian aircraft -- these things have markings. you do not have a civilian aircraft with military potentials unless that is obvious. when that is the case, it seems you take every reasonable precaution to avoid the kind of crisis and embarrassment and humiliation on heart ache surrounding korean airlines. this could be a potential attack, that is something else. but what are the odds of your question ever occurring? do you really believe the soviet union was after us, they would fi

i went to the kosovo, serbian, and croatian parts of yugoslavia, into hungry, into czechoslovakia andt germany. brian: how many times have you been there since? robert: i went back to romania in 1982, 1983, 1984. after 1984i published an essay in the new republic called romanian gymnastics, why it is like stalin's russia. i was no longer even a visa after that. so i did not go back until 1990, four months after the 1989 revolution. i spent two months in the country in 1990. then i was back for another month in 1998 for another book. then i went back for an extended visit in 2013. i made four extended visits in 2013 and 2014. brian: i want to run some video from 1989. we will have you explain what this is. [begin video clip] [crowd chanting] [speaking foreign language] [crowd chanting] [end video clip] brian: who was he? robert: nicolae ceau?escu had been in power since 1965. he replaced the previous dictator. the previous dictator brought stalinism to romania. he was a brutal tyrant. what nicolae ceau?escu did was to add the north korean element to romanian stalinism in terms of the p

from czechoslovakia to spain to algeria to london. that was 25 years ago the same time andrew was writing about completing a single market. accurately predicting what would happen in a porter for europe and to your first about wall would happen post-britain and what we do, there is no reason at all why you should not be able to have free trade as it exists as i say to the borders with russia without having to free movement in the way that we currently have it. didn't exist before wall street anyway. why is it necessary? there's no reason why we should have it. >> when you spoke in the house of commons in 2003 i had the strong impression from that meeting that you strongly supported enlargement of immigration and what came with it. have you changed your view? >> i would support of the enlargement because it was in the view of the government and i thought rightly the british view that if we widened the e.u. would somehow become a more tenuous relationship and would be a looser arrangement. what happened instead is the widening of the e.

person has gone to columbia or harvard should have an idea communism in south america or russia or czechoslovakiavietnam is a way of open pressing human spirit and make people bow down to material listicked god. the idea there is remote comparison between the success of communism and success of capitalism in terms of liberating the human spirit is just insanity. it is terrifying that a person can be that stupid. charles: but a couple years ago socialism was making big inroads in south america because of venezuela, oil-rich, they promoted it. made promises to neighboring country countries but people are standing in line for toilet paper. one thing that resonates, capitalism makes things unequal. resonates in this country, ben. >> there is nothing wrong with inequality, as long as it is not inequality by law. as long as people have opportunity at the starting gate to reach equality with each other and no bars or barriers i'm posed by law there is nothing wrong with inequality. there will be inequality everywhere. want to look for real inequality, look in socialist, bolshevik, communist countries wh

sensitive amongst member states, france shares an xities of checks to see migrant workers from czechoslovakia to spain, algeria to london. that was 25 years ago that i -- same time that andrew was writing about how you needed a single currency to complete a single market i was accurately, accurately predicting what would happen in a border free europe. and as to your first point about what would happen post-brexit and what we do with our frontiers, you know, there is no reason at all why you should not be able to have free trade as exists as i say from iceland to the borders with russia without having free movement in the way that we currently have it. it didn't actually exist before man strait anyway. why is it necessary? it is not the law. there's no reason why we should have it. >> when you spoke in the house of commons in 2003, which is a bit more recent, i have the strong impression from that reading that speech that you were strongly supportive of enlargement and the immigration that came with it. do i take it that you have changed your view? >> i was supportive of enlargement because i

states, british chair and abolitionist front tier with migrant workers wondering unchecked from czechoslovakia to spain to algeria to london. that was 25 years ago, the same time andrew was raising about how you needed to beat the single market. i was accurately predicting what would happen in a border free europe and as your first point about what would happen post brexit and what we do with our front. there's no reason at all why we should not be able to have free trade as it exists as i say to the borders with russia without having free movement in the way that we currently have it. it didn't actually exist before magistrate anyway. why is it necessary? it is not the moving the person, that's no reason why we should have it.>> when you spoke in thehouse of commons in 2003 which is a bit more recently , i had the strong impression from that reading of that speech that you strongly supported enlargement and the immigration that came with it. do i take it that you changed your view? >> i was supportive of enlargement because it was in the view of the government and i thought rightly in the bri

british anxieties that abolition of frontier could see migrant workers wandering unchecked from zek czechoslovakia to london. that was 25 years ago when andrew was writing about how you need a single currency. i was accurately predicting what would happen in a border-free europe. as for your first point about what would happen post-brexit and what we do with our front, there is no reason at all why you should not be able to have free trade, as exists, as i say, from iceland to the borders with russia without having free movement in the way we currently have it. it didn't actually exist before mastrit anyway. it is not the needs of the persians. there's no reason why we should have it. when you spoke in the house of commons in 2003, which is a bit more recent, i have a strong impression from that reading of that speech that you were strongly supportive of immigration that came with it. do i take it you've changed your view? >> i was supportive of enlargement because it was then the view of the government that -- and i thought rightly, the british view, if we widened the eu it would somehow become a

>> my mom is an immigrant from czechoslovakia. she came here legally. we are a melting pot.e a country that believes in immigration but you need to come to the country legally. we need to verify you are not a criminal or a terrorist or not going to go into laguardia or jfk and blowup bombs while americans are traveling. it is so disruptive to our society. we need to know who is in the country. >> there was a slowdown in immigration in the united states from the 20s to the 60s. it is not unprecedented to put the brakes on people coming in. maria: your policy guy has made that argument, so articulate. you brought up your mother. i want to bring up this thing that is going on. not backing down from his continued feud with donald trump and started joking about donald trump's foreign-born wives. he said donald trump has several foreign wives, there really are jobs americans won't do. getting into the wives am your father was not happy with ted cruz putting his wife in an ad where the super pack was. >> leave family out of it. especially wives. leave wives out of it. his wife, the

donald trump goes on about immigrants, but he went to communist czechoslovakia to get a wife. she took 12 years before she became an american citizen. before sheldren became a citizen. and then, he was talking about jeb bush's wife, who immediately became a citizen and left the country. as far as his business, i would like to see him put aside his business and not let his children run it because his mind on his businesses instead of the presidency. we need somebody who has experience and he needs to focus. int: deborah is a democrat virginia. good morning. caller: good morning. i am what you call one of those reagan democrats. last night, i cast my vote for sanders and virginia. i agree with the caller from illinois. a lot of democrats are frustrated. ifould vote republican somebody like john kasich was the nominee. as far as donald trump, i agree in regards to things like the trade agreement. like -- the thing turning me up to donald trump, a con artist. he sounds like democrats from the 1860's. host: you voted in the primary and virginia yesterday for bernie sanders. if it i