d. c. david, thank you so much for being on the program as we speak. you as president joe biden is making his way to is ro, watts is going through his head right now. what are his priorities as he touches down in tell a be presumably yeah, well i don't know what's going through his head, but i think he's probably been briefed on the need to present a wide noun of this war need for. he's got a very delicate balancing act. he's got to convince the israelis that, yes they, they do need to restore basically their sovereignty and eliminate the threat of invasion, but not to exacerbate the situation and to operate with a degree of discrimination in proportionality. because uh, you know, increasing or uh, civilian casualties will in long run the damage. israel's national security interest just out unprecedented is a trip by us president. so essentially it was on it's not unprecedented, not entirely unprecedented, but it's rather rare which president bush went to both baghdad and cobbled true more. earlier on we saw president johnson went to vietnam. of course

d. c. very good to have you on audra 0, sir. david, thank you very much. indeed i'm, i want to talk about the situation with captives. first of all, the viewers may remember that back in 2011 israel exchange of about a 1000 or so prisoners followed in exchange for the soldier. get upset lead. who had shelly, it's rather he'd been out for about 5 years now. there is speculation. there's a from a senior homeless political leader who has said that all palestinian prisoners in jail and israel must be freed in exchange for is rarely captain, is currently held by how much there's no timeline given for this. there's no suggesting that this is anything immediate, but do you think this is something the israel would be open to or not at the moment? no. i think there's a couple of factors 1st. i think that a lot of people in israel were in retrospect critical of the show lead exchange, feeling that the to a symmetry created a dynamic that the incentivized moss and other groups to take hostages. they don't want to repeat that. the situation is dr

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david devora, she is a professor at the national defense university. i'm a former pentagon director of arabian peninsula affairs. he's joining us not from washington d. c. thank you very much indeed sir. for being with us. i want to go back to the conversation that we've been having an error on, on the show with regard to the potential of the spelling over into the wider region . what's your assessment of the risks of that happening as well? you've heard it runs reaction your on stocks for new set. they are at the head of an excess of resistance where iran is the purging overlords. and they have various arrow uh organizations. lebanese has paula, there is what she has in syria, various malicious and your rock that who sees in yemen and how moss, who are members of the axis of resistance to do their bidding. so with one element of the axis of resistance, as you rhonda, find. ready in battle, i think that iran would probably urge the other elements of the so called excess of resistance into battle as well. there's been a lot of speculation, of course, about the nature of whatever military activity israel may take, but take part in over the next few days.