national director of progressive democrats of america p d america dot org was a key organizer for the presidential campaigns of over jesse jackson governor jerry brown served as a deputy national campaign manager of the senate for president campaign in two thousand and four in two thousand and seven tim was named progressive activist of the year by the nation magazine let's get back to it tim there's there's been if we can wax philosophical for a moment here there are there is been two there have been two story lines that have gone through american politics. one that i think is embrace by most people is the great man theory of history that franklin roosevelt for example just to use his presidency as an example we could we could there's a very good case to be made for lincoln and for jefferson being the same that he was just the right guy at the right time he was the man who was going to save america he he had the right collection of experience and advisors on and therefore and he was virtually deified my god my grandfather was you know just absolutely you know f.d.r. was a god you couldn't speak ill of him and for my grandfather

d. jackson. it was a really interesting time of great senators. >> was his relationship with anna johnson the senate? be back it was very weird. and back, letters to lyndon johnson asking for better committee assignments. johnson is the senate democratic leader. kennedy was a more junior senator. johnson seemed to put them away. at one point ted sorensen said a wonderful know. johnson appointed kennedy to some third or fourth tier, judging commission or something. sorensen said a letter were making great progress. the boston harbor dredging commission. so it was a weary, competitive relationship. but in the end, johnson came to respect kennedy is a top formidable politician. didn't think he was a real heavy hitter on policy, but he was a real compelling political figure. >> cancan days career benefit at a click >> the issue very well. he had a good schooling and not. i think he's developed an appreciation. he spent 14 years. but it was clear he wanted to move on to the presidency and in fact beca