d.c. bureaucratics. and inside the communities that our veterans live in. it's found in the american people among the faces that greet our returning heroes. working together i know that we can ensure that history will say we kement our promise. thanks for listening. god bless all the men and women who have served and continue to serve our great country and god bless this great nation. >> watch our program on first lady laura bush today on c-span and our interview with mrs. bush at 8:30. and on monday night our series conditions. >> i think you grow into this role. my sense is that you never get comfortable if you are always pushing for change and growth, not just in yourself but in the issues that you care about. you are never done so there is never a point in time when you feel like there, i am now here and i can do this the same way all the time, it's always changing. >> first lay lady michelle obama monday night on c-span and c-span radio and cspan.org. >> c-span, created by america's cable companies in 1979 brought to you as a public service by our tele

decisions for health care for illinois, you and your legislature or would you rather a bureaucrat from washington, d.cecause that's what we've got with obama care. they're making the decisions for you. i don't want them making decisions for us in texas. >> from the mississippi river to lake michigan decent health care for everyone. you can't have a system as you have in texas where's there's rolls royce coverage for some people and no coverage whatsoever for lots of hard working people. you got to fill the gap. >> why are a thousand people a day moving to the state of texas because it's such a terrible place, van, that's what i want you to tell me, why. >> you can make it even better if you raise the minimum wage and provide health coverage. >> governor perry's relatively direct and quite cheerful about engaging. he just did an ad that i want to share part of it with you that gives you a sense of this engagement because it relates to -- >> opposition's a good thing. >> will you run that for a second? i want to share that with everybody. >> in texas we have conservative leadership. in illinois it's lib

d.c. is bureaucratic clout. at least the director of central intelligence, the head of the intelligence community when he headed the cia at least had troops. he had analysts. he had collect theirs. he had someone that he could ask and they would actually respond to what he wanted to do so the point of robert gates himself a former dci argued that summer that the 9/11 commissions dni would create a unique someone who at the unable to effectuate his will. indeed this was the view of almost all the former directors of central intelligence who argued that the only way to increase centralize power in the intelligence community would need to give him more authority and more bureaucracies to directly control and not to subtract from his authority by separating these community management functions. these courting functions from the cia from langley virginia. finally another camp and this is interesting because of who the people were in the positions that they would come to hold. they argued without the knowledge of secr

d.c.? we believe the local leadership and families make those best decisions. that's between doctors and patients, not some bureaucratn washington, d.c.. >> well, that would be better than an obama exemption, passing on to businesses as he sees fit. let's talk about the practical realities. what's the likelihood that you're going to get -- through the house, that's going to happen. >> do you not think harry reid will be excited about this idea, giving states more flexibility. >> somehow you know a different harry reid than the one i'm watching up there, congressman. >> i don't, actually. i think we'll have overwhelming support in the house, because states are already requesting this. we're fulfilling it. the states have picked up the phone and asked if anyone in washington, d.c. will answer the phone. this is us officially answering the phone and saying, yes, we do want to give that authority back to those states. now the key is to be able to communicate that to the american people and for those individuals to see it and for the supreme court -- not the supreme court, but -- they think they're the supreme court, but

but one challenge we haven't been able to come over and that's right here in washington, d.c., bureaucrats -- bureaucrats that get up every day and try to tell us how to live our life and yet we survived all these years without them. and the e.p.a. as i stand in front of the gentlelady from missouri today, the e.p.a., they're the biggest threat we have to this country right now. they're the biggest threat we have to our way of life right now. and they're doing nothing but costing us jobs. by trying to say they're saving us from ourselves. it's embarrassing but i'm sure glad i'm up here, standing in front of you today to fight for our way of life. i'd like to thank the gentlelady from missouri for giving me this time, giving me the opportunity to stand in front of you and thank you for exposing the e.p.a. for what they are instead of what they hide behind. i yield back. mrs. hartzler: i'm glad you're here tonight, i'm glad you're here representing the common person in this country who is fight these regulations every day, who had real world experience dealing with the e.p.a. like many of us

jerry brown and his legislature know better how to take care of californians than some bureaucrat in washington, d.c's the reason i think the whole affordable care act, you know, maybe you do put this thing in a moratorium for the next three years to really figure out what's going on, because it is not working. >> do you think it's the governors that need to decide that ultimately? >> well, i think it would be good for the governors to be listened to. >> yeah. yeah. >> i don't think the governors were asked about health care when this debate was going on. it was kind of, like, here's the bill, we got the people to pass it without one republican vote. and now we're seeing the -- the real problems with not having thoughtful conversations with the people who by in large will be implementing health care decisions back in the states, and that is the governors and their legislature. >> can you stick around for just a few minutes? >> absolutely. >> we have to go to break. we'll have more with rick perry on the other side of this break. don't go away. [ male announcer ] if you suffer from a dry mouth then y

and it is one that a lot of people around the world would appreciate in terms of these bureaucrats -- washington, d.c these institutions are precisely what enable our freedom to, to do all these things. >> how do you think we got those? and this takes me to to origin once again. how do you think it happened that this country has the first amendment that it does? does it have anything to do, for example, with the fact that there is written into the first commandment of the bible the idea that i am the lord who brought you out of the house of bondage. that there is something there having to do with an almighty force, liberating people from bondage, from bondage to what? you are talking about from-to. >> the early settlers in many ways were reenacting their own version of the exodus story. in leaving what they thought was a tyranny, a monarchical tyranny in europe and coming to the shores as part of our core dna. >> and so in terms of origin you are not going to go with me to any particular path? >> i'm going to stay away from that path. >> is it really possible in this country and in others to separate

and it is one that a lot of people around the world would appreciate in terms of these bureaucrats -- washington, d.c. these institutions are precisely what enable our freedom to, to do all these things. >> how do you think we got those? and this takes me to to origin once again. how do you think it happened that this country has the first amendment that it does? does it have anything to do, for example, with the fact that there is written into the first commandment of the bible the idea that i am the lord who brought you out of the house of bondage. that there is something there having to do with an almighty force, liberating people from bondage, from bondage to what? you are talking about from-to. >> the early settlers in many ways were reenacting their own version of the exodus story. in leaving what they thought was a tyranny, a monarchical tyranny in europe and coming to the shores as part of our core dna. >> and so in terms of origin you are not going to go with me to any particular path? >> i'm going to stay away from that path. >> is it really possible in this country and in others to separat

would tell you they could do a better job of taking care of their citizens than a bureaucrat or a congress in washington, d.crying to make this thing fit. all 50 states, it's impossible, it's the reason obama care is going to fail on its on weight. because you cannot implement a health care plan for this country and make all 50 states fit into that scenario. >> if the national party in washington doesn't start doing what you guys are doing on the state level. i applaud you for this, i like the idea of a $12 billion surplus. that's a pretty compelling story in a country that has 17 trillion in debt and 90 trillion in unfunded liabilities they're going to owe. you agree with me if they don't step up and start offering that innovative positive solution oriented agenda, they're going to suffer as a party nationally? >> well, i think it makes a lot of sense to allow these 50 laboratories to come up with the best ways to deliver services for their citizens. there may be some of the states that have a completely different idea. whether it's social issues or economic issues, i think the state will come up with bette

one that a lot of people around the world, you know, would appreciate in terms of these bureaucrats. washington d.cese institutions are precisely what enables our freedom to do all of these things. >> how do you think that we got those? and this takes me to origen once again. how do you think that it happened that this country has the first amendment that it does? does it have anything to do, for example, with the fact that there is written into the first commandment in the bible the idea that god brought the fourth out of egypt, the house of bondage, that there is something they're having to do with an almighty force liberating people from bondage. you were talking before about from to. >> well, the early settlers in many ways were reenacting their own version of the exodus story. leaving what they thought was that tyranny a monarch tyranny. >> in terms of origin you're not going to go with me down any particular path. >> i'm going to stay away from that path. >> is it really possible in this country and in others to separate church and state? >> you know, that reminds me, that question, marvin, o

communities in my state from permanent dependence on the whims of faraway politicians and bureaucrats in washington, d.c. mr. president, for all the talk we hear in this chamber about inequality, we nonetheless seem oblivious to its causes. this bill and thousands of other bills, laws and regulations like it, are themselves the root cause of our shortage of opportunity in america today. the end result of this legislation will be to disenfranchise and extort the american people to benefit special interests, to enrich the well connected at the expense of the disconnected. the true cost of that transaction, just another forced deposit and withdrawal from washington's dysfunctional favor bank, is a lot more than $956 billion. the true cost of this kind of unequal cronyist policy making is the trust of the american people. in the legitimacy of our political institutions, in the fairness of our economy, and in the good faith of their countrymen. our constitutional republic, our free enterprise economy, and our voluntary civil society depend absolutely on the equality of all americans under the law, the equali

everyone realized that a large centralized bureaucratic program , except here in washington, d.c. we try to build something that is going to be controlled here in the center of all wisdom, that is large, centralized and bureaucratic. it is mind boggling that the nation who defeated the soviet union with creativity and freedom decides to solve all problems and all management issues by going to a so far yet-style agency, program and concept. this bill is needed because it affects people and only the beginning of what we need to do to set it right and make sure our highest priority is people and not rules and regulation. i yield back. the chair: the gentleman yields back the balance of his time. the gentleman from arizona. mr. grijalva: we heard people on the other side of the aisle make fun that the united states congress has to be involved in the conveyance of federal land. just as this nation defeated the soviet union and alluded to the fact that we have a so far yet-style government with regard to land management in this country, they need to take it up with article 4, congress sh

and it's one that a lot of people around the world would appreciate in terms of these bureaucrats, washington, d.c these institutions are precisely what enable our freedom to -- to do all of these things. >> how do you think we got those? this takes me to origin once again. how do you think it happened that this country has the first amendment that it does? do, forhave anything to example, with the fact that it is written into the first amendment in the bible the idea that god brought the fourth of egypt the house of bondage. is there something there having to do with an almighty force? bondage.g people from go from bondage to what? two.ere talking about from >> and a lot of ways, they were reenacting their own version of the exodus story, in leaving what they thought was a tear any come a a monarchical tyranny in europe and it has become a part of a -- part of our core dna. >> in terms of origin, you will not go down with me on any particular path. >> i'm going to stay away from that path. [laughter] >> is it really possible in this country and others to separate church and state? that questions

in the wake of the regulation tsunami coming from d.c., it's time that congress exercises their authority to help rein in government bureaucrats and help provide the clarity to business owners all across this country. i ask my colleagues to support this bill. thank you. i yield back my time. the chair: the gentlewoman from california. ms. waters: i reserve the balance of my time. the chair: the gentlewoman reserves. the gentleman from texas is recognized. mr. hensarling: mr. chairman, i'm very pleased to yield one minute to the gentleman from pennsylvania, mr. kelly. the chair: the gentleman from pennsylvania is recognized for one minute. mr. kelly: i rise in strong support of h.r. 3193. my family has been in the automobile business for 63 years. cfpb is kind of interesting because what we've done now, we've absolutely abandon the rulemaking process and have gone to influencing people. the relationship that car dealers have with their customers is sometimes they navigate a very hard financial system to get their loans arranged. we want to do it with guidance. it's like the policeman walking his beat and pulling out his billy c