d.c. d.c. today where he will have his first sit-down meeting with president obama. melania will be meeting with michelle. thank you. i'm going to take you straight there to the white house, where just in a few hours that meeting will be taking place. president obama and president-elect donald trump. they're going to sit down. i don't know, this to me sounds like it's going to be a pretty awkward meeting given the bad blood between these two politicians. the question is what kind of meeting can they have? chris jansing is nbc's senior white house correspondent. i don't think you're there for this meeting. i have heard lebron and the cavaliers are in cleveland, and that, my lady, is your hometown. >> fortuitous timing, let's call it that. lebron was involved in this campaign so i'm going to try to sneak that in there. but this meeting, it was understated when josh earnest said yesterday this isn't going to be easy. i got confirmation this morning from the white house, these two men have never even met. they had plenty to say about each other. president obama going on an unprecedented political tour for hillary clinton in the closing month of the campaign and calling donald trump unqualified to be president, that he shouldn't have his hands on the nuclear code. donald trump, of course, as you pointed out earlier, stephanie, leaving that birther movement. so awkward, yes. difficult, yes. necessary, absolutely yes, as you see what amen pointed to, i saw two walking back from dinner, including one outside trump's new hotel in washington, and i think it's important for both of them to strike the same tone we have heard over the last 36 hours from the two men as well as from hillary clinton that now the time has come for a peaceful transition. you're also going to see a little bit of that. there will be what we call a pool spray. cameras will be allowed in at least for a few minutes of the meeting and then the men will get down to business. indication from the white house today that maybe the president will even try to make his case for some of the key agenda items that he believes deserve preserving, including obamacare. in the meantime, the first lady will be in the east wing with melania trump. we won't see any of that. arguably, michelle obama mounted some of the most effective arguments against donald trump as president. having said that, they both have children, and in fact, malia was about the same age as barron when he is going to be coming into this white house. laura bush once told me she bonded with hillary clinton over the advice she gave her with how to deal with a child with secret service protection. perhaps there could be meeting of the minds on both levels. >> it is about the american people. trump's team have already set up a transition website, greatagain.gov. they also set up a twitter account @transition2016. what will a donald trump administration look like? what does donald trump want to do next? peter alexander has a look at that. what can you tell us? >> reporter: good morning to you. to be clear, for the course of the campaign, donald trump was too superstitious to begin the conversation about what the transition or what a trump administration would look like. now we're learning more details, certainly aides and advisers close to trump giving us some sense to help color our understanding out what it might look like. let's put up a list. first, rudy giuliani, whose name we have increasingly hurt flitted around as a potential attorney general or head of homeland security. he was asked if he had interest in being the attorney general. he said i certainly going the justice department. this morning, he refused to rule out any interest in being a part of a trump administration. newt gingrich's name has been mentioned repeatedly as a potential secretary of state, according to at least three a e aides close to the trump campaign. other names floated for secretary of state include the tennessee senator bob corker, also the former ambassador to the u.n., john bolton. mike flynn has been one of the most popular surrogates for donald trump. he's been with him repeatedly as i traveled with trump over the course of the last several days. his name has been mention eed aa potential secretary of state. steve mnuchin is a name new yorkers would recognize. he was in charge of the finance efforts for trump's campaign. we're hearing about his name for a possible treasury secretary. reince priebus was thanked personally by donald trump on the stage in this acceptance speech at the end of the night in new york city on election evening as it moved into wednesday morning, in fact. reince priebus, we're hearing, is the potential chief of staff conceivably. that's a name we're focused on, and ben carson obviously was a fierce rival throughout the course of the campaign. donald trump thanked him as well tuesday night, early wednesday morning. we're hearing from advisers his is a name discussed as a head of health and human services or even as a potential surgeon general. jeff sessions, he's been a surrogate as well, we're hearing that. a lot of these names bubbling up. while it's too early to indicate where in particular any one of these individuals might go, it gives us a better understanding of what a trump administration, a trump cabinet, specifically, might look like. >> thanks, peter. joining me now, robert costa, msnbc political analyst and national political reporter for the "washington post," one i'm going to say who has been all over donald trump, knows him best, and jonathan alter, daily beast columnist. robert, let's start with you. you have new reporting on possible trump cabinet posts. too many candidates for chief of staff, reince priebus and corey lewandowski. corey lewandowski, fired from the trump campaign. someone it's reported ivanka and jared kushner don't like. >> he was let go from the campaign, and lewandowski is someone who makes the trains run on time. as we look over this list of possible appointees by donald trump, the president-elect, we should also have a broader circle that we're thinking about because trump, coming from the business community, my sources tell me he's looking at people like carl icahn, the famed invest investor, to come in in some role, the investor in california to come in. trump right now is thinking through all these different decisions, but he's aurls looking at people beyond the political world. >> what kind of guy is donald? does donald look at the people who are with him day in and day out for the last year and a half and say this is my team. i have to stick with them through and through, or could he look at that, well, that was my jv squad. now i'm up to varsity? >> a lot of people who are elected as outsiders bring in the loyalists that populate the white house. and trump does value loyalty. but he's very unpredictable. we should be prepared he's going to make some personnel decisions, policy decisions that don't entirely follow his campaign. this is someone who when he looks at the presidency sees an opportunity to make new alliances, new relationships. that's what i hear he's doing in trump tower. he hasn't started to focus on this until now. that's why he doesn't have a coherent strategy. it's something developing at the moment. >> jonathan, new jersey governor chris christie joined our colleagues at the "today" show this morning. he's been leading the transition team for the last few months behind the scenes. >> would you want to be chief of staff? would you want to be attorney general? >> you don't think -- >> that's what's called a pregnant pause. >> you don't think i'm answering any of these question. >> you think governor christie could take the position? >> yeah, i would say that chief of staff, which does not require senate confirmation, would be the most likely position for him. although he's got some competition from corey lewandowski and maybe reince priebus. he will play a role. it will be highly unusual for the head of the transition, who is involved in picking personnel throughout the government, to not take anyway role. it's not like he has a lot else to do. >> but bridgegate also highly unusual. >> yes, but bridgegate is only relevant if you need senate confirmation. he can appoint anybody he wants. by the way, chris christie is not under much of a legal cloud right now. because of the convictions in the bridgegate case, there's an assumpti tiotion he's on the ve being indicted, that is not true. i went out and covered that trial. christie right now is not any under political legal cloud. it's donald trump who has to appear on november 28th in court in keconnection with the trump university case. it was be possible for him to be in that position. what's interesting about christie as head of the transition is christie is a moderate. and he's going to disappoint a lot of conservative republicans in the way he puts people into various positions in this administration. if he continues to have authority, and as robert said, you don't know with trump because he's extraordinarily unpredictable. so christie could fall out of favor, but i don't anticipate bridgegate being an impediment to him. >> chris christie being a moderate, if you look at donald trump before the campaign historically, he has not been a conservative republican. what happens if donald trump surrounds himself with more moderates? think about who his base was, who stood there at those rallies fired up day in and day out. >> the lines here, however, are quite blurred because we think of trump, it's not so much he's a conservative in the traditional republican sense. an idealogical movement conservative. he's more of a populist and nationalist. on some issues he can seem more moderate such as fiscal issues. he doesn't want to revamp entitlement spending, medicare, and social. for the paul ryan wing of the party, he's not really a conservative. because of his relahetoric and d line approach to immigration, others see him as conservativco. >> jonathan, a man you know well is president obama. how icy is that meeting going to be today? from a donald trump perspective, you know, donald trump could walk in, hey, i'm mr. trump. what's it going to be like for barack obama? this is very personal. >> it is very personal. but you know, it's not that different, maybe, from meeting with a foreign head of state with whom there's tension. so you can expect that obama will set that all aside and try to work for as smooth a transition as possible. it will not be an icy, chilly session. it might be obama taking the opportunity to say, you know, i know you're going to reverse some of these executive orders. but on some others, would you let me make the case as to why they should not be reversed? on the merits, on the policy dimensions. i would expect that trump, who is a negotiator, will say, yes. i said i would reverse many of your executive orders but not all of them. what obama is trying to do is to preserve as much of his legacy as he can and to have a smooth transition so that the rest of the world doesn't panic. a lot of people all over the world are extremely upset about this. so his first priority is to smooth, peaceful transition of power. >> no doubt he'll have to put some personal feelings aside. if you watched either of those men over the last few years, they said some pretty aggressive things. we have to take a break. coming up, i'm going to speak to a longtime friend of donald trump who spoke with him twice on election day, to try to get an idea what is going on inside the mind of the president-elect. >>> up next, after a contentious election, hillary clinton spoke greig graciously about her loss. congressman joe crowley was there for inspeech. he's going to join me next. what is next for the clintons? 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>> i spoke briefly to her along the rope line as she was exiting the new yorker hotel. >> what did she say? >> well, you know, i let her know i have great affection for her. and i let her know that, and she repeated back to me the same. and you know, she said you're going to have your hands full. i said, i understand. i get that. it was emotional, no question. i think it was also reflective of very little sleep and just being tired. i think the rawness of the room, listening to, especially i think some of the young women who were there, very, very emotional. you know, heavy sighs and catching breath for folks there, which led to, i think, the atmosphere. but she gave a very touching speech in and of itself, a moving speech. quite frankly, one of the best speeches of the campaign. >> what happened with the election? where did it go wrong? >> i think the message that i get from this is that the american people sent a message not just to democrats but to republicans as well. the first republicans that they're tired of the obstructionism, obstructionist politics played out here in washington. they want to see them move on an agenda. and i think to democrats, i think the message really is that as much as we fight, we think every day for working men and women, there is a vast amount of them out there who aren't getting that message. we aren't communicating that directly to them enough or they're not feeling it. i think that's where this went wrong. the country clearly is very divided by the results of the election. donald trump having won the electoral college, but clinton having won the popular vote. what it really demonstrates is that the country is very, very severely divided right now. >> filmmaker michael moore has put out a five-point plan that has gone viral. he says donald trump's victory is no surprise and that the democratic party has, quote, failed as miserably. do you think the democrats have failed their people? >> no, i don't think that's the case at all. i think there's going to be a lot of reaction, a lot of monday morning quarterbacking after the results of this election. donald trump did not believe he was going to be elected. mike pence didn't believe he was going to be vice president. the republican leadership believed it was going to be one of their darkest days. it was reversed. i think that's what we're dealing with now as a party itself. it's not time for recriminations, buit's time for rebuilding, preparing for 2016. sorry, 2016 and 2020 and beyond. we will do that as well. but i don't think, you know, saying that we have ourselves to blame here, no. i think the american people have demonstrated that they're tired with which the way washington works and want to see it changed. >> how are you going to do that? three days ago, i was sitting in this seat, eating crow today, and saying after the election, the republican party will need a rebirth. democrats are now facing the weakest position in eight years. you don't need me to tell you the republicans are controlling the white house and congress. what do you need to do? >> i think we need to really find a way to communicate to the american people what we stand for. that we standard for working men and women in this country. we standard for the middle class, that the policieses we would set forth and put forward are paolicies that would improv the lives of every american and not a few. >> hillary clinton had an extraordinarily strong ground game, and certainly the money to back it up. did you not tell those working men and women, because they voted for donald? >> stephanie, i think you're one of the first to agree, this was not necessarily an election based on policy. this was based on personality. and flaws in character. more than it was about policy itself. i don't think anyone can deny that. there was very little focus beyond donald trump building a wall, which isn't much of a policy, coming from his camp. >> are you saying that hillary clinton has more character flaws than donald trump? >> no, no. what i was saying was that -- i was speaking specifically more about donald trump in terms of his flaws in his character. >> but he won. >> he did win. and i think -- political scientists for many, many years will look back on this. i think in many respects, maybe the standard of what we expect in a presidential candidate has changed forever. i certainly hope it's not. that someone who had the flaws that were demonstrated in this campaign, you know, that becomes the norm. i really hope that's not the norm, stephanie. >> doesn't it actually make it an election about issues? if donald trump is such a flawed character and people voted for him in spite of that, isn't it then about issues? people who feel like they're forgotten americans? >> i do think that many people who voted for trump did so to shake up washington. to shake up this place. and i think it's not the first time that people vote against their personal interests. unbeknownst to them sometimes to shake things up. we have it happen here now. it's not only affecting washington or our country but the world. the reverberations of this election are affecting the world right now. and it's going to be long time for us to recuperate from this, i think. i have faith in the country, i believe in america, i believe in everything about it, and i'm willing to work with the new president-elect trump to move forward on policies we can agree on and when we disagree, i'll be vociferously in opposition to that. >> i really appreciate it. congressman crowley, thank you for your commitment to the country. >> thanks for what you do as well. >> coming up, former governor who has been beside donald trump throughout the campaign, what does he think donald top priority will be day one and will he serve in the trump administration? 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>> steph, i think clearly taxes, tax reform, repatriation of all these dollars that are offshore, cutting a deal possibly with the democratic leadership and the republican membership as well to come to some sort of potentially comprehensive relief concerning taxes, cutting the corporate tax rate, the position the president has, many democratic have as well, and working on an infrastructure bill. we know american infrastructure is a problem. stimulus didn't really work. there wasn't an infrastructure bill in the first place. a real deal in the context of a tax bill that lowers corporate tax and brings dollars from offshore back to our country is a great place to start. i would love to see him go to the inner cities and talk about a new deal, i read the other day, maybe this wasn't from a trump pers
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