business last week best buy announced it was pulling kaspersky products from its shelves while d.h. s. has given federal agencies thirty days to identify kaspersky products on its systems and says it must begin discontinuing use within ninety days the move comes as the trumpet ministration and u.s. government as a whole continues to come under fire for lax a.

while d.h. s. has given federal agencies thirty days to identify kaspersky products on its systems and says it must begin discontinuing use within ninety days the move comes as the trumpet ministration and u.s. government as a whole continues to come under fire for lax approach to cyber security risk management firm security scoreboard recently ring to government third to last in overall industry security rankings so to talk about the holes and how to fill them i'm joined by sam currie chief security officer at cyber reason sam i want to start first by talking about our top story do you think the decision to pull kaspersky is based on any actionable intelligence or is this more of a risk based assessment it has to some degree be based on information that we don't have access to right a lot of national security is done in the intelligence community through classified briefings and to some extent there must be some fear here however this person is a company that's been around for a long time has been doi