daca was legal when it was enacted. daca is legal today, and the president should stop trying to change the law by breaking the law. and that's why the courts have told the president that his repeal of daca is now on hold, and we're going to litigate this to the end. we now have been told by the judge that he believes there's a strong likelihood that we will prevail in the litigation. i would simply tell congress do not accept a bad deal. we just heard a court say that the president's actions were likely illegal. why would you accept bad things on immigration, bad deals on something else simply to try to get daca? the leverage is now with those who are supporters of daca to make sure that we don't let others load up an agreement with bad immigration items and provisions. >> the administration has said it will appeal that decision. are you confident that you will ultimately prevail? >> i believe that the appellate courts, the supreme court will find what the district court did. and that is that the actions of this admini

i agree that daca, that the daca people should be allowed to stay. i'm just wondering whether it was worth our government you own and when you say, know, the democrats are going to complain about it, i want to democrats are, i'm in a very democratic area i don't know of anybody who was willing to shut down our government or go to the max for immigration? and, again, i feel sorry for the daca people, but i the live in an area where latinos, they don't have -- if you walk them to the store, no --is [inaudible] >> it seems to me if you don't english, and, you english, able to talk you're telling me i'm not welcomed here. >> to elizabeth's point, do you the particular senate were under pressure from constituents back home, supporters back home, on to stake this whole deal the future of those immigrants, potential immigrants? >> yes. week or the week before last when this was going down, trying crats were just to hold mitch mcconnell and the republicans to their promise, which back in december, they january, we would settle this. we would get a vote. so i

it's daca. we've been talking about daca for a long time. i've been hearing about it for years, long before i decided to go into this particular line of work and maybe we can do something. we have a lot of good people in this room. a lot of people that have a great spirit for taking care of people we represent. we all represent. for that reason, any legislation on daca, we feel, at least a strong part of this group feels has to accomplish three vital goals and chairman will be submitting a bill over the next two to three days that will cover many of the things and obviously that -- if it gets passed it'll go to the senate and they can negotiate it. we'll see how it all turns out. i feel having the democrats in with us is absolutely vital because this should be a bipartisan bill. this should be a bill of love, truly. it should be a bill of love and we can do that. but it also has to be a bill where we're able to secure our border. drugs are pouring into our country at a record pace. a lot of people coming in that we can't have. we've greatly

daca is a bipartisan issue. we have an opportunity before us to get this done for the american people. when it comes to chain migration and the lottery system, we saw two recent terror attacks in new york that were the result of this i think failed immigration policy. we like to see that fixed for the american people along with as bob talked about sanctuary , cities. you and i talked about this extensively -- so we think that our bill, our house bill, will be a good starting ground for this negotiation. and i too would like to commend you for bringing everybody together. what we don't want to see happen is for the conditions for daca to occur again. we want to get security done so we don't have to deal with this problem five more years down the road. so thank you, sir. president trump: there are so many points of agreement and a lot of it is common sense, and i really think will come out bury well. david, do you have something to say? >> my observation is three times in the last 11 years well -intentioned people

we will come up with daca. we will do daca and start on the phase two which would be comprehensive. i would like that. i think a lot of people would like to see that. but i think we have to do daca first. >> mr. president, you need to be clear. what senator feinstein is talking about, we don't want to be back here two years later. you have to have security as the secretary would tell you. >> that's what she is saying. >> no, i think she is saying something different. you are saying daca without security. are you talking about security as well? >> i think if we have meaningful comprehensive immigration reform, that's really where the security goes. if we can get the daca bill because march is coming and people are losing their status every day. >> let's be honest. security was voted on just a few years ago. no disrespect, there is people in the room on the other side who voted for it. if i felt senator clinton voted for it. i don't think that's comprehensive. i think that's dealing with daca at the same time. that's what the president is making. it's like three pillars. daca, border

daca involves 700,000 people.. dreamers is anyone who dreams of getting free stuff from taxpayers in america. that could involve tens of millions of people, lou. this is not the same thing as daca. we need to make these distinctions. >> dreamers are still in their country standing in line waiting to get here. lou: the idea that this senate, this congress can make a deal with the president, he has extend a hand to make that possible. he's willing to bargain and negotiate, yet what he gets met with immediately is from senator dianne feinstein, an offer to have a clean daca and we'll take up border security later. precisely what every president has run into since 1986. >> she is a nice woman, maybe 90, 95, but she is trying. she means well. she has got a cold. that is the darnedest thing i have ever heard for leaking documents. >> he has a lot of lyndon johnson in him. he's a deal maker. lou: to me he was at his best sitting with the folks in the cabinet room that he brought in to talk about daca. and he was in the c

we're going to get daca done. and maybe you can start bringing back the concept of earmarks it's going to bring you together thatou will do it honestly the other systematic. but one thing and did was brought everyone together. this country has to be brought together. at 6:40, i have to go to menendez office and he is taking me to dinner at 7:00. and he's lying. he doesn't know that, but he is buying. collects easy to bipartisan agreement when the other guy buys. our system isp: designed right now that everybody can hate each other and we shouldn't have that. we have a country that is doing , in many respects, we're getting a new high on the job market. 401(k)s, police come up to me and say you are making me look like a financial genius. literally. and their wives never thought that was possible. the country is doing well in so many ways. i really think we can solve that. i think the system is a very bad system in terms of getting together. i will leave it up to you, but i really believe you can do something to bri

and we'll tkao with daca later. is that the way the white house sees it at this point, given this ruleing? >> no. the president believes it is absolutely essential that we resolve all of the issues that were outlined in the meeting yesterday together. that we come to an agreement to build a wall. keep that promise to the american people. we come to an agreement to end the visa lottery program and chain migration and that we also deal with the people of the daca program. >> martha: all before january 19th? >> let me be clear on that. we believe the negotiations that are under way resulting in the wall and daca and the changes in immigration reform, will come later. i think what we believe is going to be possible, as we make progress in reaching a bipartisan solution on these immigration issue, that that's going to facilitate us making the kind of funding agreement possible in the congress to move forward. it's absolutely essential that congress step up, pass a spending bill to rebuild our military at the level that p

the daca and then the daca programs. i felt that those actions were completely in accord with earlier executive actions that the presidents had taken in the areas of immigration. since then, june of 2012, 800,000 young people have achieved dreamer status. some of them aren't so young anymore. i sometimes refer to them as students and kids but her -- they are in the military, parents, teachers. i meet them all over virginia. as i said there are 13,000 in my state. the daca status has allowed them to continue their educations legally and to remain in the only country they have ever known. i will say, i was disappointed when president trump in september announced that he would terminate the program in six months in march. i felt like it was a breaking of a promise to these young people because he had said even as a candidate and then as president that dreamers were good kids and they wouldn't have anything to worry about from him. but i will say that there was one aspect of what the president said. i can't -- i can't just b

we can address daca, but we have to secure our border. we have to make sure we are not sitting here in the same situation in 1, 5, 10 years. we have to address the root causes of why we have a daca situation in the first place. so these are border security issues, these a lottery, chain the set lottery, chain migration. i look forward to knuckling down and addressing these. i appreciate being here today. >> thank you. mario diaz-balart. i too need to thank the president. i have been involved in these conversations for a long time, and these are among the most productive i have ever been involved with. as the majority leader stated, there are court areas we need to areas we needre to focus on. these young men and women in these category, and also dealing with the other categories the majority already mentioned. i think it is doable. we're all going to have to give a bit, and we are going to have to get something in order to solve this important issue that will not solve itself. but today was a very productive day. spanish] [indiscernible]

motivating factor to end daca. your reaction to that and how quickly the administration will appeal the judge's decision blocking the fazing out of daca? >> on the appeal i refer to the attorney general, we would be in close contact on that. with respect to the quote i would find offensive to that. i took an oath to defend and support the constitution. program was unconstitutional. what we should be focused on instead of the court interventions and the abstractions is we need permanent solution. i have said that, the president has said that. we want to find a permanent solution to the daca population, not a continual three-year renewal period. chris: all right, in the short period of time we have left, i want to ask you about some of the issues that are fazing your department. border apprehensions are down 40% in 2017 which some administration officials have called the trump effect, but in december there was a significant increase out of the border caught more than 40,000 people attempting illegal crossings, why ha

and 20,000 daca recipients are doing just that. yet because of president trump's cruel decision to rescind the daca program as well as the republican-controlled congress' failure to act, these young people's lives and livelihoods have been thrown into chaos and uncertainty. mr. president, it is our job to enact a legislative fix now. the president has called for a fix. the vast majority of the people of this country want to see a fix. a fix is important to our national security. it is the right thing to do. let us do it. mr. president, i am, however, very concerned that president trump is doing the 800,000 dreamers as a bargaining chip to force the taxpayers of this country to pay for an $18 billion wall, an $18 billion wall. now, some may remember that during his campaign for president, donald trump told the american people that it was the mexican government that would be paying for the wall. well, turns out that it didn't quite work out that way. and now it is the taxpayers of this country who are supposed to pay for a wall. mr.

>> las personas que no han aplicado con daca antes, si el daca estÁ terminando, pueden renovar por doste abogado de inmigraciÓn, las personas que nunca hayan solicitado daca no podrÁ hacerlo ahora y tampoco se otorgarÁn beneficios de viaje para los beneficiarios. Él recomienda que lo haga cuanto antes. >> tengo miedo de que eso no va a sobrevivir una apelaciÓn al segundo nivel, significando que los "dreamers", quien pueden aprovechar este tiempo deben hacerlo, porque estamos seguros que este gobierno va a apelar esta decisiÓn. marÍa: por su parte, algunos "dreamers", quien gracias al programa de acciÓn diferida logrÓ su sueÑo de convertirse en maestro de preparatoria, tambiÉn celebran la noticia, pero con cautela. >> son buenas noticias, pero todavÍa no vamos a parar luchando para el acta de sueÑos limpia. un grupo de jÓvenes va a ir a washington dc la prÓxima semana y vamos a entregar cartas e ir a las oficinas de los congresistas. necesitamos un acta de sueÑos. marÍa: Él espera que todavÍa cuando le toque renovar pueda hacerlo. y avisÓ lo que pasarÍa si vuelven a cancelar daca. >> yo

many students of daca make ncontributions. high achieving young people in daca contributed in many ways our nation. many are starting to become scientists, engineers, medical doctors and entrepreneurs. given the administrations decision we urge congress to craft legislation that provides long-term protection for these young people who seek to continue their education and contribute nto society. our nation needs an immigration policy they said that advances us innovation of prosperity and stays true to foundational american goals that seek contributions to society from all. mr. president, you and i had an invitation issue. i will just as a member of the house and senate, i've never been invited to a meeting quite like the one that we had yesterday. and in the cabinet room at the white house. it was the presidents idea. i do not know if it was spur of the moment idea but it was when it came together quickly in a few days. i think there were almost 26 of us. democrats, republicans, house and senate members who were called togethe

basically do what dianne feinstein wanted to do with daca. mitch mcconnell said no, i object to that. he objected to that and that would've put this in a different place at least for that money. why? >> chuck schumer we are being told right now, our reporter on capitol hill letting us know senator schumer will be speaking on the senate floor and just the next few moments. we thought we were going to hear from him earlier today and there was perhaps stop pause, don't speak at a now we are waiting on him possibly to step up and began his comments on the senate floor. we will take those when they begin, obviously that will be a key moment. >> katie: to answer your question about why they wouldn't take the military pay out of it and have it stand-alone, the truth is because republicans are using that as leverage as well. they need that political point. >> harris: out of all of this it is the only thing, as we keep talking about for daca, they had at least until march and when the judge stepped in and said we want to keep everything in place, he c

daca. i have been hearing about it for years, long before i decided to go into this particular line of work. maybe we can do something. we have a lot of good people that have a great spirit for taking care of people we represent, we all represent. for that reason, any legislation aca, we feel, at least a strong part of this group feels, has to call the three vital walls. the chairman will be submitting a bill over the next two days to three days that will cover many of these things, and obviously, if it gets passed, it will go to the senate, and we will see how it all turns out. i feel, having the democrats in with us is absolutely vital, because it should be a bipartisan bill. this will be a bill of love, truly, a bill of love, and we can do this. it also has to be a bill where ourwe areto sur border. drugs are pouring in at a record pace peter a lot of people coming in that we cannot have. fewer people are trying to come in. tremendous numbers of people and drugs pouring into our country.

they want a deal on daca. the president on the other hand tweeted last year that our country needs a good shutdown. isn't he getting exactly what he asked for? and it was the president, as i'm sure you know, the last time we had a government shutdown who said it is the president's responsibility to lead. he needs to get the players in the room, he needs to lead. so how is he going to lead on this? mr. short: a couple points there. one, the president was very active yesterday in bringing together the house votes to get 230 votes. he was speaking to freedom caucus members. i think that was where we had the best challenge yesterday. he helped get that bill accomplished. i think he's making continued calls this morning. he called both bipartisan members today. he'll continue to do that. he is leading on this issue. regarding daca, we feel that the administration has put forward our plans on this. keep in mind that secretary kelly a year ago went to congress and said, we need a solution on daca. we asked congress t

makes sure daca don't get a special pathway to citizenship. this will restore the rule of law and protect our communities from terrorists and illegal insurers we are not facing another generation of immigrants who came as illegal miners in a few years. before elected to congress, i was a federal prosecutor. mexico order in my jurisdiction. i have been dealing with this as quite some time. a unique opportunity now with daca to finally get the border secure once and for all. chairman goodlatte outlined, in our meeting with the white house was backed by the president as a starting ground for negotiations. i thought it was a healthy discussion and unique to have negotiations in the white house with live television cameras for 45 minutes. it was a transparent discussion that americans got to see these negotiations that are normally behind closed doors. they saw were the president stood and where members of congress stood. i think this bill embodies the four main pillars we came to agreement on at the white house yesterday. first, border security. i

>> well, particularly when it comes to daca, and daca is not d.r.e.a.m.ers.re two different populations. d.r.e.a.m.ers are much bigger, dacasa smaller. th most people, including the majority of republicans and trump voters want to see a pathway to at least legal status for these daca recipients. they don't want to see them back in the shadows. even the department of homeland security is saying we don't want to deport these people. when it comes to the broader illegal immigration population, there's no appetite for that. >> but is there an appetite to bring it up in the house if the president's not on board with it? or does that give enough cover to paul ryan? >> the president will be on board with it, if it's popular. i think that's what weave he 'v come to terms on. >> i am not so sure about that. >> it's part of the reason never-trump republicans were saying, look, this guy's playing you for a fool. we want you to be citizens >> but he went to c pac. this is a man who started off by running and saying we need to build a wall and keep mexicans out. that's es

i think that's dealing with daca at the same time. three pillars. daca. we all in the room want to do it. border security, so we're not back here. and chain immigration. everything else that's kind of comprehensive is moved to the side. i believe -- >> and the lottery. >> that is what -- >> i think you should end merit. i mean if you can, end merit-based. i don't know who's going to argue with merit-based. who can argue with merit-based? diane, go ahead. >> do you really think that there can be agreement in all of of that quickly to get daca passed in time? i wanted to ask mr. mccarthy a question. do you really think there can be agreement on those three difficult subjects you raised in time to get daca passed and effective so -- >> yes, because you have heard from leader mcconnell and speaker ryan who said they will put the bill on to the floor if the president agreed to it. and us getting to the room, i haven't seen us be this close and having this discussion in quite a few years of the last four years. so i think yes, we can make this happen. we all kn

maybe on daca because it's so popular. but there are a lot of house republicans who basically agree with steven miller's view on immigration where they are seeking not only -- this is very important to understand. not only changes in border security as the price for legalizing the daca, but reductions in legal immigration, which is a new position compared to a few years ago for republicans. >> so we have to squeeze in a quick break. thank you so much. here's what we know. the government is is in a shutdown. it's going to stay in a shutdown into tomorrow when government workers would normally be. getting back to work. we heard the senate is adjourned until 10:00 a.m. tomorrow. when it goes from here is anybody's guess. we'll be right back. ♪ if you have moderate to severe plaque psoriasis,... ...isn't it time to let the real you shine through? maybe it's time for otezla (apremilast). otezla is not an injection or a cream. it's a pill that treats plaque psoriasis differently. with otezla, 75% clearer skin is achievable after

more than 97% of daca recipients are in school or in the workforce. the daca program allowed them to work legally, to get driver's licenses, to go to college, to serve in our military and give back to their communities. daca helped almost 70% of recipients secure a job with better pay and better pay leads to real investments in our communities and our economy. after their daca applications were approved, nearly two-thirds of recipients reported buying their first car, and almost one in six reported buying a new home. daca recipients also paid billions of dollars in federal, state, and local taxes. why on earth would we kick out these contributors to our economy and our country? the economic impact of removing nearly 700,000 workers from the u.s. workforce would be stagge staggering. it would cost our economy nearly half a trillion dollars in g.d.p. loss over the next decade. but passing the dream act would add an estimated $281 billion to the u.s. economy over the next ten years. that sounds to me like putting america first. i stand with these dreamer

we've all compromised on daca.ll make a compromise, but we are not going to allow daca recipients any longer to live in the state of limbo. >> chris: john? >> this seems to be an issue, again, about messaging from the president. the interpretation of his remarks is a generous one. he's really talking about it being a meritocracy. we will get more physicists from norway than we are going to get from haiti. if that's the generous interpretation. the failure of the message is that it leaves open this big discussion of whether or not the president is a racist because of the language that he chose. similarly coming off of that tuesday meeting, which was an incredible hit for him. that was a remarkable public relations success for the president. very presidential having democrats and republicans in the room getting along civilly over disagreements that were fundamental to the two parties. and in the very next day having changed the narrative away from russia, away from the "fire and fury" book the questions his mental st

no one has a right to daca. but dealing with daca is the right thing to do. and i think it's also overreaching to insist that not only must daca recipients be accommodated but we also have to being a accommodate their parents. and maybe because i personally know so many people under these circumstances, i am personally open to figuring out something that allows their parents to stay, especially the children who are minors. but i understand it's not a majority position in my party. and i have to be honest with you, i believe that if we take the position around here that we are not accepting any deal unless it takes care of both the daca recipient and the parent, if that's the hard position we adopt and people aren't willing to move off of it, i think there may be no deal at all. and that means that neither the recipients of daca nor the parents will have anything. by the way, i also think it's overreach to oppose a border wall because you find it symbolically offensive. first america has a right and more importantly a responsibility to protect its borders and

and daca one hearing.r was listening to anyone but the lobbyist and their donor. compared to the president's bipart an meeting on daca and border security. it lasted 55 minutes and the president negotiating live with law makers and american viewers watched on television. it was a great hour. driving the discussion and debate and talk about america the way it is it supposed to operate. this was president trump at his best in the open, straightforward and in my opinion and saspeak or ryan and senate mcconnell and will dems can decide whether they would like to join the president in a historic opportunity to bargain an in full view of america. in the interest of the nation and set aside special interest and or has pelosi, schumer and ryan and mcconnell lived too long in the swamp and serve the nation? president trump is making it less difficult for them. just follow mr. trump in that way. our quotation of the evening from jaup adams who said this. there is danger from all men. only maximum of a free governmen

they don't want to-do daca this year and do daca again two years from now. they also do not want daca deported. i think we are close to being able to get a compromise that solves the problem and ensures that we do not deport daca. this should not be a reason to shutdown government because i think this is solvable. this is a tailor made issue for republicans and democrats to come together on and solve. >> i love hearing that kind of rhetoric from you. the fact is that daca is what was the catalyst for this shutdown that seemed to be the final sticking point that could not be agreed upon. why did it get to this point? if you were right in saying that this is something that everybody wants to see a deal on to some degree -- 80%, vast majority. why was that not done by midnight last night? >> i think it should have been but we still have another month to go. i think it was wrong to shutdown the government now because we don't have a daca deal. we have four or five more weeks to do it. our troops are not going to get paid. federal employees are not going to get p

>> what we do is we simply allow people on daca now to stay on a new program, a new daca program that goes for three years, renewable for three years in the future. it allows them to work and travel inside and outside the country. but it does not give them any special pathway to a green card or citizenship. it's simply to take care of people who in most of instances were brought here illegally by their parents and have lived here virtually all their lives. they get to stay here. if there is some other way that any other person would immigrate to the united states, marrying a u.s. citizen, employer petitioning for you, they may be able to qualify that way. but we do not create anything in this legislation that gives them a special pathway to citizenship. we do not change the law to favor these individuals. charles: i know you guys are working hard, so i appreciate you taking the time. coming up, secretary of veterans affairs, david shulkin joins us next. today we're out here with some big news. jardiance is the only type 2 diabetes pill proven to both significantly reduce the chance of

here is the issue, if we simply did daca without incumbent reforms then you'd have a daca problem five years down the road. we want to fix the problem and the root cause of the problem. daca is a symptom of a broken immigration system. we want to fix the root cause of this problem, while we deal with daca so that we don't have 700,000 more daca kids in five years, that's perfect common sense that's all the president is saying. >> dickerson: i want to see if i can get your reaction to trump campaign has run, an ad they're running in the middle ever these negotiations where everybody is thinking the other side has bad faith let's watch a little bit i want to get your reaction to you this affects things. >> president trump system right. build the wall, deport criminals, stop illegal immigration now. democrats who stand in our way will be complicit in every murder committed by illegal immigrants. >> dickerson: democrats complicit? >> certainly not helping us keep the government open. not helping us get to a solution on immigration. when you shut down the government you stop negotiating on

but right now there is no deal on daca. are republicans focussed on passing another short term spending measure. their goal is to keep the government up and running. now you have this game of chicken playing out on capitol hill. the political stakes are very high. these are lives, not just ledger entries that we are talking about with daca. let's begin our coverage with josh green and cnn politics reporter. the idea of whether or not daca is a stand alone or is incorporated into the budget resolution, what is the plus/minus on those two moves and who is making them? >> democrats are trying to use their leverage as they perceive it on daca to either shut down or keep the government open. they believe that the republicans have pushed this down the road far enough. remember it was donald trump who ended that program and that they need to fix it. the longer it goes the more jeopardy these folks are in. as you point out we tend to lose sight of this sometimes. people's lives, these are people who are being effected by this legis

do we need to fix daca? yes, we need to fiction -- we need to fix daca.eporter: durbin who is part of those talks says today he's not giving up on that plan. >> we'll prepare a bipartisan agreement for introduction into the senate. if the republican leadership has a better alternative bring it forward. reporter: while the talks continue -- >> chain migration is important. border security. taking care of the kids with daca. you want to avoid getting the deal too comprehensive because then there is too much to oppose. but if you can say laser focused on the four pillars, if you will. reporter: the government is due to run out of money one week from tonight. >> the democrats need to stop playing politics with our military. they say we have to solve daca, and they are stalling on budget talks over this issue. >> we'll have to do something short term because it's too short notice for the appropriations committee to write a longer-term bill. reporter: there is some concern about congress' ability to get things done, facing some critical lead lines ahead. lou: w

that is the daca solution and funding the federal government. given our global security crisid crisis today. i think the world's more dangerous than any time in my lifetime, mr. president. i can't think of anything worse than to tie up the funding for our men and women in uniform with an issue like this that we all want to solve anyway. i'm shocked that democrats would advocate we shock down the government over a bill no one has seen yet and an issue that has nothing to do with getting the government funded. creating a false deadline for a daca solution, i believe, and using it to hold military certainty hostage is no way to govern. i think most people back home agree with that. that's what's wrong with this institution today. we need to, both sides need to is to it but right now we need tpo get to a vote and fund this government. i'd like to make a few comments about the current immigration system. it seems to be the topic of the day recently. well, i want to tell you that some of us have been working on this for years. some people in this body

>> it has all to do with daca because you're going to end up revisiting another daca provision in a few years if you don't address the issue. and let's end the visa lottery program. those are three things the president has said. >> i don't mean to interrupt you, brother. >> sure you do. >> you have people on both sides of the aisle who through this whole process have complained publicly and privately that the president's instability and lack of -- >> no. >> yes. >> there are people who don't agree with the president. >> i'll finish my sentence. you finish your sentence. >> you interrupted me. i figured it's fair. >> all right. finish your point, van. >> you have people on both sides of the aisle, republicans and democrats who have complained publicly and privately, leadership and otherwise, that the president has been inconsistent and inconstant, and it's made it very difficult to make the negotiations happen. let's just be honest. here's what happened. you had two trains moving down one w a need for the budget. the other was a need to deal with daca, and they both wind up at the same p

daca problem down the road. that's purely common sense. the majority of americans see it that way and so it's perfectly reasonable that we address this in a more comprehensive way. now what kevin just described to you is the fact our leaders are meeting to discuss these things. good faith negotiations are under way, and to push that aside in try and jeopardize funding for tchings like schip and our military -- for things like schip and our military makes never sense. do you not have questions? i always look for you. all right. all right. reporter: mr. speaker, yesterday as steve bannon agered both republicans and democrats alike on the house intelligence committee after the white house invoked executive privilege said he should not answer questions during the transition during his time at the white house. is it appropriate invoke executive order -- speaker ryan: i am not familiar what happened yesterday. there has always been a tension on executive privilege between the legislative branch and the executive branc

700,000 people that qualify for daca right now and we would lose a thousand people in daca a day ifes fall in march, so democrats want daca, they want these immigrants to be in this country and be able to pay their taxes and that's what daca does. heather: mark, part of the issue here, there are several issues, this would also include parents, including to ed henry earlier in the show, the parents who broke the law to begin with to come here. i want you to get you to come on that and also the tweet that was sent out by president trump talking about merit-base immigration. he says, i as president want people coming into the country who are going to help us become strong and great again, people coming in to assist him based on merit, no more lotterieses #america first and so that's a whole other issue, lottery and chain migration. >> heather, it's clear what's going on within the democrat caucus, keith ellison made it clear, there's no free thoughts, no free will, you better fall in line with party bosses or they will cut off fundraising to you and not support you, that's the message

>> they want more than daca. the way it's put in there is a three-year renewal dock ka in purpose duty which is a problem for me. they want the d.r.e.a.m. act, a path to citizenship and amnesty. lou: a little history for some of the audience who may not know. two people were in that room, senator durbin, along with senator feinstein, maybe three, i should say, and at the same time senator menendez. we could have had a deal in 2006, in my judgment in what was then called the kennedy-mccain comprehensive immigration deal bill, could have had a deal except the left, in the person of two of those three people, insisted on chain migration. so there was the history of it. and we've got 20 of 30 million immigrants who have come to the country legally, 20 million of those, for those in the audience who don't know, were brought in not as immigrants but brought in as part of the chain migration. it's really a stunning impact. most immigrants come to this country as part of chain migration rather than being sought out for t

they said they did it to force congress to address the daca question. yesterday a federal judge in california temporarily blocked the trump administration's efforts to end the deferred action for childhood arrivals program. >>> sunday night on afterwards. georgetown university law professor peter he had willman in his book, not a crime to be poor. the criminalization of poverty in america. he's interviewed by georgia congressman hank johnson. >> was poverty an issue in terms of the war on drugs or the victims of the war on drugs. >> sure. >> how did poverty play into that? >> no man around. what happens to families, what happens to the men who have been locked up and all the collateral consequences. they can't get jobs. they're not allowed to live in public housing. 45,000 laws across the country collateral consequences of one kind or another, it destroys somebody's life. if they weren't poor when they went into prison, they're definitely poverty stricken for the rest of their lives. it's totally kelkted to poverty. >> watch afterwards sunday night at 9