>> there is daca amnesty in each one. i think they are going to do a floor vote.o do that probably thursday. i think they are whipping it. the leaders in the whip team are counting votes to see if they have got enough votes for either one. there were a lot of things we were happy about with the economy and the regulatory reform. but this one right here, this tough issue of right now it looks to me like a lot of people have determined that they are okay with the daca amnesty. lou: are you including a lot of conservatives? >> i don't know if there are a lot of conservatives that have gone over quite that far. most of of us recognize the number one goal here was a build the wall. you don't have the asylum issue. you have the wall built. you don't have the drug crisis if yo don't have the wall built. people are forced to go to ports of entry. that's what the wall is for. that's what we need. that's the first promise we should be keeping, build the wall, then we can talk about anything else. lou: the lesson of the last 30 years, the 1986 amnesty bill under president re

we're having a surge at the border right now because we've been talking about daca amnesty. u have population of over million people between 2018 and 2018 came in as unaccompanied minor with their parents. same situation is the 2012 daca folks. so you have another constituency you deal with. then you have the parents. they don't want daca legalization for themselves, they want their parents. 6 to 8 million people over next three to four years trying to figure out what to do with. if you had a wall built -- trish: it is not the wall. it is more than the wall. i think the wall is somewhat figurative in all of this. it is not just the wall but insuring we have the ability to track who the heck is in our country. it is understanding if you're going to come here that you have to meet certain requirements and that we should be strategic about things. every other country, by the way, congressman is. everybody else is strategic. it is not like i can just up and move to timbuktu tomorrow. timbuktu might say listen, we need, this, and this. we don't need anymore tv anchors so good luck

commerce last night had the temerity to send out a letter basically adderring congress to push for daca amnesty and open borders. and among the demands from tom donahue and the chamber, permanent amnesty for daca recipients, ensure 50,000 nondaca illegals retrain work authorizations, protect work authorizations for spouses and reject proposals to limit legal immigration. your reaction to the arrogance of the country's biggest business lobby who own, for example, speaker ryan and much of his leadership group. >> they got to have their cheap labor and they're willing to throw their money around to get it. and certainly right now this small group of republicans with the ta profl approval of ryan ag it. they're hold a gun to the head of the majority of the house and trying to force them into a deal that is not going to turn out well for the american people. and they can get away with it because for too long these members have done their bidding. and they're going to be trying -- they couldn't sell the majority of the caucus on the concepts for a bill. so everybody is waiting to hear the details whi

the latest draft of the daca amnesty deal is written like a love letter to the coch brother and wall street. he sold out the republican party and running for president if he is not already. we'll talk about the disturbing prospect with ed rollins. and "fake news" losing their mind. turns the white house briefing room in grand standing and childish temper tandid you understand. >> you are a parent of young children don't you have empathy of what have they go through. >> you would think that someone would be assigned to slap the hell out of somebody. our story tonight. and that is for the doj and f.b.i. sham inspector report. and hammering in the clinton e-mail and the relentless pursuit of president trump over phony charges of russian collusions and hours after it was released of the christopher rey held the news conference to continue the white wash. >> this report did not find anything wrong under review. we'll train new hire and veterans alike on what went wrong so mistakes will never be repeated. >> lou: it was not the rank and file making the mistakes mr. director. it was you and

it includes amnesty for 3.5 million daca recipients. there's no actual numerical qualification in the legislation. it fails to fully fund the president's border wall first. it doesn't end chain migration, it only sets quote unquote limits that are, well, only generally and ambiguously described. so here you go again. another ryan special. and that ryan special will be, well, will be served up to destroy the republican party in the midterms. i said last night on this broadcast the republicans stand to lose 50 seats if they put up with ryan much longer. a massive bust to have deadly drug fentanyl seized i seized io miami valley. 20 pounds to have drug is enough to kill an estimated 4 million people. four men, all of them from mexico were arrested on mug ling charges. mr. ryan, i would like for you to leave the border open. there are a lot of americans you apparently think deserve to die to meet addiction and to have their lives destroyed. you keep telling us how you're a big bad open borders guy. according to the border patrol, they seize

they want to get big daca amnesty.hey have been using weapon i think it since 2003 when they started using dreamers, now they are trying to weapon ice kids in conflict between the campaign making a political issue, short-term detention of minors going on for years so it is artificial father, nancy pelosi should not be in congress anymore, they have been too long. working to find solutions, trump said if you're willing to work with me we can find a way to get to a real solution. heather: people who would live in this country legally, separated from their children every single day. thank you for joining us, we will see what happens on a big day. the time is 15 minutes after the top of the hour. after the left slammed the trump administration for using the bible to defend its border policy hillary clinton is finding god herself. >> jesus said suffer the little children unto me. he did not say let the children suffer. heather: carly shimkus live with reaction pouring in online. heather: a round of questioning with unexpect

. >> laura: republican donors said unless congress passes the daca amnesty, they won't give a penny.lity of immigration reform getting passed in the house and then the senate? >> i don't know about in the house. in the senate, it is not on our agenda. i went to immigration early this year. wide open for amendments. the senate didn't want to pass any particular version of it. i can't see us going back to immigration this year unless there was some proposal the president is willing to sign. i don't think he is anything with anything i am seeing. short answer not on the agenda in the senate. >> laura: bob corker and others expressed their dismay over the president's tariffs. wanted to atamp an ma'am to the defense policy bill, a must have bill. the president won on this robust economic national platform. good for the senate to take on the president on the issue of tariffs? >> i don't think so. i am not thrilled about the tariffs, but we won't be passing something that the president can legally do. under current law. >> laura: the ig report that was delayed and is coming out has leaked p

so we don't have daca every 10 ars, or amnesty every 15, 20 years. fix it. jessica: do you think that daca and amnesty has contributed to the spiking of numbers that we're seeing now? tom: yes. absolutely. my experience, if you look at every time you talk about some sort of benefit, whether it's amnesty, daca, even though you may set the rules, you got to be in the country thilong. people are going to take that chance certainly increases illegal crossings. that's been pren for the last three decades i have been around. jessica: all police agencies disclose arrests. including the identity of the person, the name of the person who was arrested, sometimes other information about them. except for c.b.p. and i.c.e. why is it that i.c.e. does not release information on people -- the names and identities of peopleested like o enrcement agencies? tom: that's something i'm working on. i know that's a privacy issue. from my attorneys. my privacy office. i think we should release them. if you are a criminal that we have arrested, my personal opinion, they should be rele

daca thing for a second. i hear people say don't say the amnesty word. what do you think the so-called fix the daca is? it's amnesty. it's everything the president campaigned against. i think that opens up a blue wave. because you are not keeping your promises. and that gets to the trump agenda all over again it's easy to make it up and say we are not going -- it's not amnesty. but it is amnesty. anybody else is outside the country. so i fear to see the bill come up next week. lou: we have 23 people in your conference who signed on. they revealed themselves for what they are. more not on rinos. and they sold out their party. they are selling out their own integrity. and they are work as hard as they can -- they think they are part of the resistance. but they don't have the guts to be democrats or the guts to be straightforward. your party is filled with more cowards than any time i have seen the republican party used to and for something. it stand for a sinecure lame duck speaker. we'll be talking with ed rollins. the smartest political strategist in the country. served in three political administration

i will say it this way, the amnesty for daca recipients is a component of each.n you look at those two scenarios, the goodlatte bill looks like it gives daca amnesty to fewer people than the ryan amnesty bill does. that is the distinction. it is not a distinction for may because they are both amnesty, but that is the distinction some letter -- some are looking at. host: we will be taking you therat 9:00 when they come in for gavel to gavel coverage. we are talking with steve king from iowa. calls, republicans, (202) 748-8002. democrats, (202) 748-8001. .- republicans, (202) 748-8001 democrats, (202) 748-8000. independents, (202) 748-8002. talk to me about assimilation. guest: if we go back to the middle part of the 20th century, we have established a foundation and pattern of assimilation that promoted english is our common language and in many states, our official language. , there is a stone with a brass plaque on it in keokuk, iowa, a civil war memorial put together by the daughters of the american revolution and it says on there -- "one country, one flag, one

as if we know what we're doing, sage states men and women here deciding, oh, yeah, i can give amnesty to daca recipients because it's the humane thing to do, it's the right thing to do for the country, don't call it amnesty because it hurts my feelings and by the way, we need to do this because if we don't give amnesty to daca recipients we can't get the money for the wall and we can't pass the border security and we can't end chain migration and we can't pass kate's law and we can't pass sarah's law and we can't end sanctuary cities. really? this united states of america, this shining city on a hill, this stellar country that eclipsed anything any country has ever done before, we can't restore the essential pillar of american exceptionalism called the rule of law? . . in fact, mr. speaker, when ronald reagan spoke of the shining city on the hill. i was always inspired by the image that he drew. but america is, he said a shining city built upon pillars and those pillars are the pillars of american exceptionalism. and most of them are in the bill of rights. you have a pillar for freedom of spe

trump supporters were willing to, the bill -- the compromise that is being proposed 700,000 daca getting amnesty in return for end to chain migration, and we would have gone for that. that was acceptable. i'm not sure why we're continuing to have the conversations. charles: let's say republicans get their act together and figure out a bill to follow-up on, but democrats continue with obstruction. president trump continues to throw it in their laps, this is a blame game situation, but if democrats within again any solutions that come out of the republicans would they look bad? >> not necessarily, i will chafe a little bit at obstruction. it will be a bill democrats will -- they will not support conservative freedom caucus bill, i am not sure they would support the compromise bill. there is something missing. i am surprised it is everybody. from franklin graham on conservative side to all liberal side, nobody is happy about the parents and kid splits. i thought that what after paul ryan said we would see it. it is not written yet, but from what i've been told and scene it is not in. >> they need t

daca could make it worse. >> my experience, every time we talk about benefits, amnesty, daca, you to be in the country this longle will take that chance. it certainly increases illegal crossings. it's been proven for the last three decades i've been around. >> it was being hosted by the center for immigration studies. tom homan defended the government's controversial policy of separating children and parents caught crossing the border illegal. democrats and immigration activists have slammed the policy is cruel and inhumane today, he said law enforcement agencies are only enforcing the laws that congress has passed. >> those who choose to violate law between the ports of entry or committing a crime. children and parents get separated every day across this country when a parent is charged with a criminal theft. i've taken fathers out of homes with domestic violence. it's sad to see the children cry when you take nt the home. but because it's sad, doesn't mean you ignore the law. if you don't like what you do, talk to the congressman with a senator. we are enforcing the laws in the book phrase because he was on f

if this president were to sign an amnesty for these -- for daca, and support the trump executive ordern effect. if he were to sign the ia -- the ryan bill, no one knows what's in it because ryan won't tell anybody until it's on the floor and it's organized because it will be written by u.s. internationals. what is your judge the on your campaign and the mid-terms this fall? >> i and with the president 100% to secure the border. it's not just the democrats attacking the president. lou: we are out of time. i'm asking a straightforward question. >> i would say no it would be wrong to find the ryan bill. i want to see a veto bill with the ryan bill. lou: dr. kelli ward, thank you. be sure to vote in our poll tonight. do you think the left-wing media is paying more attention to coverage of chair flowing into the united states. peter strzok subpoenaed by the house judiciary committee to answer for his shocking, biased anti-trump comments and discern what influence his bias might have had on his judgment as the lead investigator, for example, on the hillary clinton email scandal. the panel of

my problem last 30 pages, giving amnesty daca. i have said, let's secure border before we talk about what we do with the people. we're not luring more people in. and the conference seemed to be moramore effort to persuade peoe who could not support the 4 pillars in the bill. and a few people brought up, we got 193 with the goodlatte bill that had that stuff in there why don't we just tweak that to get it passed and get a win. lou: you know the answer to that. tom donohue at chamber of commerce did not want it, business round take dell not want it, koch brothers did not want it. >> you are right. lou: and they are those manages that bill, today. >> they wanted the second bill. lou: tomorrow. >> yeah, and so, i didn't know until i just got here to go on with you, they pulled that bill. as of when i lift about 20 minutes ago we were still having a vote tomorrow. lou: is there anyone? any paul ryan won't lie to? i am just talking about went the conference? >> let me tell you. lou: any reason, reason why anyone in republican conference

>> provides path to citizenship, true amnesty to 1.8 million aliens in daca population and provides benefitsther minors who were here as children of individual who is have nonimmigrant visas, the goodlatt bill only provides a renewable three-year status, nonimmigrant status for the 690,000 daca recipients in the united states. they each have very similar provisions as they relate to interior enforcement. the compromise bill funds the wall $25 billion, the goodlatte provides funding for wall but doesn't necessarily guaranty it'll be year to year but likely will be. the compromise bill does not have crucial aspects, mandatory e-verify provision, it doesn't cut funding to sanctuary cities and doesn't break chain migration each of which the goodlatte does and the president called for. heather: exactly. what do you think the president has thrown his support behind both or either including compromise bill, is it because of funding part of the compromise bill? >> i think it's the funding part of the compromise bill and strong enforcement provisions that are in each. the enforcement provisions are s

situation of the people who have daca and the levels of gal immigratn, chain migration in particular and the diversity lottery. border security in particular, wall. doesn't amnesty encourage more illegal immigration? tom: i think when you reward illegal behavior, it certainly does. it'a fact if congress chooses to pass legislation on daca, what i said many times is you can't -- my opinion you can't pass a clean daca bill without talking about the underlying reasons for illegal immigration. of the fix.address that as part if you don't, these families across now will be your next daca in 10 years. let's stop kicking that down the road if you want to fix daca, talk about the overarching issues of illegal immigration. so we don't have daca every 10 years, or amnestevery 15, 20 years. fix it. jessica: do you think a talk of amnesty has contributed to the spiking of numbers that we're seeing now? tom: yes. absolutely. my experience, if you look at every time you talk about some sort of benefit, whether it's amnesty, daca, even though you may set the rules, you got to be in the country this long. people are going to take that chance. certainly increases illegal crossin

daca. >>chris: some of the hard-line conservatives called the amnesty and will vote against the. >> it's merit-based>>chris: i'm talking about daca. >> it's based on merit and not amnesty. - - is a very conservative freedom caucus guy actually drafted that provision that charles - - on the left came to an agreement with. >>chris: i want to go to something else you said about all of this because if the house those pass something, it goes on to the senate where you would need nine democratic votes to get above the filibuster approved the majority to get to 60 votes. you said you think the republican majority in the senate should change the rules and end the filibuster. sometimes when you're in the minority, that works to your benefit. the question i guess i have, is that would help you right now but are you willing to see a democratic president and a democratic senate and that will come at some point, able to cram anything they want through? >> we did that with the supreme court, neil gorsuch. i would argue this is national security at stake. not only drug cartels, opioids and also to terrorists. we s

the last 30 pages was giving amnesty on daca. we secure the border before we talk about. and make sure you are not luring more people in here, yet the conference was more of an effort to persuade people who could not support the lack of the four pillars in the bill and that they were wrong and get on board. look. we have 193 with a goodlat bill with all of that stuff in there and tweak it and get a win. loupe lou you know the answer to that. tom donahue in the chamber of commerce didn't want it the and the business roundtable didn't want it and the koch brothers didn't want it and they are the ones that are managing the bill today. >> yeah, and so i didn't know until i just got here to go on with you that they pulled the bill at the floor. when i left the conference 20 minutes ago, we were going to have a vote tomorrow. >> lou: i am curious on this. is there anyone paul ryan will not lie to within the conference? is there any rain, is there any reason, why anyone in the republican conference should tolerate him as speaker for another minute. >> i can't say that he lied. h

what you are suggesting earlier, it would have the dreamer stuff, daca, some sort of amnesty for minor illegal aliens and increased funding and new enforcement. but what this last week has shown us, there is a lot more mess that's we are in a situation where you either have to do catch and release or separate the children or couple with a new system the executive order is trying to do. kennedy: you are right. people on both sides know what they don't like, therein they are very, very loud and emotional about what they hate. but both sides are very bad about putting ford something that is work agent and popular and passable. >> well put. kennedy: thank you. it's just the inspiration of having you here. there are a ton of legal issues. central american asylum seekers are suing the trump administration over the zero' tolerance policy. there are allegations of abuse in one shelter. immigration courts are so overwhelmed by the number of cases, there aren't enough judges or lawyers to handle it all. let's talk about the president's executive order. what does this do for the situation in the

amnesty for daca. so many good things. i really think if our republican leadership have wanted to pass, it could have passed that children are not spated and go rom 193 to get votes to pass it. but our own leadership didn't want it to pass. many of them were out there, no, the compromised bill and it simply wasn't true. they were misreading their conference. and right after president trump s and well some of us were saying the same things that president trump was saying before the licksap we need them to be heard but not being heard. but a good comparison was done on the issue of amnesty under the demrat bill. can applya recipients for status and may be renewed ap makes ineligible for a felony. and charged with a misdemeanor felony. but there is amnesty at the end of the bill, the demrat bill. under the compromised bill that $. peaker was calling it, apply aliens who may which may be renewed every six years. indefinitely goes to to zwibe and the applications could reach 5 million or more. it is the largest amnesty. bigger