that we can do something about daca and the d.r.e.a.m act. the president told us he would like to see it done. he had added that there were things he wanted to be part of it. one of them dealt with border security. which has been a priority for all of us from the beginning. we want to establish both political parties want to establish that we are committed to border security and we are. how you define it, what it costs, how it is implemented. some of these things we can define our agreement. others will be left to future efforts by congress and the president. then he talked about family unification. and that is an issue that is very delicate. it is something that as you can imagine, really. this person. that a member of a family can bring a relative or someone they love to the united states. even if they decide to bring them in an incident where they might be waiting 30 years. in the case of those that are seeking entry in the united states their family visas, 80 years from china. 160 years from mexico. some of these things are realistic and

. >> i will tell you something, we need to do the daca, the d.r.e.a.m act this week. >> i am lookinghing president trump supports. and he has not yet indicated what measure he is willing to sign. >> there is a one month short-term funding in the work that do not include the d.r.e.a.m.ers. house republicans have the vote for passage. but in the senate the slim gop majority needs democratic support. >>> eight of the 12 members of the national park advisory board resigned this week. jointly relating to climate change and environmental protector. >>> secretary of state rex tillerson came to the bay air to talk about syria and north korea at abc7 david louie was at stanford to hear the latest. >> reporter: stabilize country. 715,000 refugees returned last year. but will take a multinational effort to restore infrastructure. >> consist of measures such as clearing unexploded land mines left behind by isis. returning water and electricity services and getting boys and girls back in school. >> reporter: maintaining a military presence. >> it is a bold plan. he acknowledged that it might be a

. >> i will tell you something, we need to do the daca, the d.r.e.a.m act this week. >> i am looking for something president trump supports. and he has not yet indicated what measure he is willing to sign. >> there is a one month short-term funding in the work that do not include the d.r.e.a.m.ers. house republicans have the vote for passage. but in the senate the slim gop majority needs democratic support. >>> eight of the 12 members of the national park advisory board resigned this week. jointly relating to climate change and environmental protector. >>> secretary of state rex tillerson came to the bay air to talk about syria and north korea at stanford. abc7 david louie was at stanford to hear the latest. >> reporter: stabilize a country. 715,000 refugees returned last year. but will take a multinational effort to restore infrastructure. >> consist of measures such as clearing unexploded land mines left behind by isis. returning water and electricity services and getting boys and girls back in school. >> reporter: maintaining a military presence. >> it is a bold plan. he acknowled

d.r.e.a.m. act and let's never forget that we all come from somewhere. thank you. i yield the floor. >> more about dreamers and the daca -- >> i'm here today with a very simple straightforward demand. we must act now to pass a d.r.e.a.m. act. very simply, the honor and integrity of this chamber are at stake. young people who would be covered under the d.r.e.a.m. act are americans in all but name. they came here as children. they grew up as americans. they go to our schools, our in our military and support our economy. they work hard and they get back and they believe in the american dream. deporting dreamers would be cruel and irrational, inhumane and very simply, repugnant. two basic american values. just think of jonathan gonzales clues. he is a college student at connecticut state university and have the privilege of meeting him in december. his story has stuck with me. his story haunts me when i think of the moral imperils of this nation. to pass the d.r.e.a.m. act. jonathan was born in mexico. he came to this country when he was just four years old. the united states is home for him. it is the only country that he

this is a moral freefall that the white house is experiencing and as he begins to talk about daca and d.r.e.a.mers and we saw a small opportunity that this could be resolved, he goes ahead and makes these racist remarks, throwing fuel to the fire and making it very difficult for anybody to be able to reach an agreement with him. >> congressman, the white house isn't denying that the president used those ugly words and some white house staffers actually believe that this will resonate with his political base. what does that tell you? >> well, if he wants to fan the flames of racism, as it has been done since the history of our nation, he can do that. but he will have a sad ending. we are traumatized as a nation about this president and how he behaves. he's not behaving presidential. attacking people on their race, where they come from, their gender, it's unacceptable. and i think the white house is facing a moral free fall. i believe they don't know what to do with it. and the people may be in shock themselves. >> how would you hope that the republican colleagues in the house react to this? >> well

they were trying to do, on pushing and leveraging where they were and pushing for putting the daca -- the d.r.e.a.m. act to the floor is incredibly disappointing. we are at a place where donald trump ended daca five months ago. puerto rico has -- hasn't had any power since -- for four months. c.h.i.p. -- republicans let c.h.i.p. expire four months. what makes us think that republicans are really going to truly deal with these vital issues now. >> well they did vote on c.h.i.p. today. >> yep. >> but that is a good question for david. do you think that it's worthwhile to trust mitch mcconnell when he says he's going to have an immigration debate on the floor and even if he does bring it, does that mean paul ryan is willing to have the same debate or that the freedom caucus is ultimately going to pull him to the right and refuse to do so? >> that is exactly right, katy. at the end of the day, i hate to sound like a spoiler, very little happened today nor in the past three days. we're talking about a government funding bill that was supposed to be in place october 1, five months ago and we added anothe

. >> and you tweeted out, daca and the d.r.e.a.m. usa gave me the chance to go to college nine years after high school. i'll graduate in may and my daca expired in october. how could i work and contribute in the progress from here, d.r.e.a.m. act. you were working and supporting your family and it was sort of -- it was a tough decision to go to school, but the argument i think that everybody has about going to university is that you will enhance your chances to be productive and earn. so you were really hoping for all of that. you were studying for exams, trying to get things down while this whole daca debate was swirling around you and you tried to keep that out of your head but you couldn't really. >> no. it is difficult. to have that door open after waiting for so long and then as i'm so close to graduating as you said in may and it just kind of felt like the rug was pulled out from under me. my future became uncertainty again and i didn't know where i would end up in a few months. and it is -- it psychologically difficult to go th

for the senate to shut down the government, but i will tell you something, we need to do daca and the d.r.e.a.m. act this week. >> president trump comments at an immigration meeting last week, on a daca agreement. >> what we need to do better is a reliable partner at the white house. >> i'm looking to sdo something that president trump supports and i don't know what measure he's being to sign. >> general kelly emerged from a meeting of the republican caucus. >> what we cannot have is an unprotected, unsecured southwest bord border. >> there's a one-month funding order in the works by the gop that does not include the d.r.e.a.m.ers. the gop majority needs democratic support. >> i challenge president trump, step up to the plate, democrats have met you halfway, mr. president, you meet us halfway. >> reporter: the white house now say that support that house measure to support gop funding without a fix for the d.r.e.a.m.ers. >> what's the timing on that short-term measure you're talking about. >> larry, we have been trying to nail that down all day long. what we know is we're on track to get that bi

daca is not what people want. what they really want is the d.r.e.a.m. act. what they want is, if you're brought her illegally we're going to give you a path of amnesty, keep your family here and keep the chain migration in place. when people talk about daca, that's generally what they want. lou: that's what the left wants. but that isn't what the american people want who in the most recent polling that we've looked at shows most people first of all, illegal immigration isn't even close to the top of their list of issues and concerns. and secondly, most oppose amnesty period. >> right. that's exactly right. the key for republicans is we promised we'd build a wall so we should be building the wall first. and if the white house says, which it did this week, it would only take a year to build it, let's build it for a year and then talk about additional immigration programs such as daca if that's what we want to do. let's keep trust with the people and secure the border with a physical barrier. >> did you see senator feinstein in the meeting of the cabinet room w

>> well, you recall, sue, that presiden ordered the ending of the so-called daca program, protecting those d.r.e.a.m. to the united states have not committed crimes -- there are about 800,000 of them -- he has directed that to expire at the -- during the month of march. what the democrats are saying is that because president trump has said he wants to protect those d.r.e.a.m.er in a different way than president o did, and because it's very popularing it this spending bill because they have to reauthorize funding for the government by friday. so they are establishing that as a condition of their cooperation. do k they can still reach an agreement? and if they don't, what are the possibilits of government shutdown. t still reach an agreement. we have seen from president p that he often reverses field and takes one position one day, another the next day. there is the basis of a bipartisan deal on immigration although some conservatives in the republican party don't like it. but it has gotten harder because of the way the president spoke in the oval office meeting we have all been talking about for seve

daca. they want the d.r.e.a.m. act, that's what they want. if they give up too much, people on my side that are saying we'll move towards daca, and if they move towards daca and they give up so much but don't get the d.r.e.a.m. act, democrats have a tough sell to their constituency, i believe. liz: we have news that steve bannon is quitting, stepping aside from his position as executive chairman of breitbart news. he did return to breitbart news in august after high-profile departure. what's your reaction to that? >> well, i'm not surprised, frankly. the mercers who are big funders of breitbart, there was some issues that arose there, so i was expecting mr. bannon, i don't know him but i expect him to go his own way, he's a survivor, he'll endul making a difference somewhere else. liz: congressman andy biggs, thank you very much for your time. >>> bring in former trump 2016 deputy campaign manager, co-author of the book let trump be trump david bossie. good to see you. what is your rack to steve bannon leaving breitbart? >> hearing it for the

we talk about daca and the d.r.e.a.m. act, what they're proposing is a d.r.e.a.m. act with transparency as well. no deal on chain migration and only a little divisivement on the visa lottery. that was the immediate context for these remarks about the s-hole countries. >> i would argue that a lot of democrats, certainly, on the hill would say it was too sweet a deal and now it's a better deal than any he would still be getting because he has so muddied the waters. >>> we're going to leave that there. there will be a lot more on "mtp daily" with chuck. chuck, thank you very much. i know you have a busy day. rich lowry, thank you for being here. and we can't thank you all enough for being here. >>> congresswoman barbara lee of california joining us next. you're watching "andrea mitchell reports" on msnbc. how about some of the lowest options fees? are you raising your hand? good then it's time for power e*trade the platform, price and service that gives you the edge you need. alright one quick game of rock, paper, scissors. 1, 2, 3, go. e*trade. the original place to

daca renewal applications. but president trump's decision means that until we passed the d.r.e.a.m. act these young members still faced deep uncertainty about whether they will be able to stay in school, keep working and contributing to our economy and remain in the nations that they call home. congress must pass the d.r.e.a.m. act now. threatening to deport these young people who grew up in america and want to contribute to their nation will not fit our rep in immigration system. making the american people for the bill to build an unnecessary and wasteful border wall that families in new mexico's border communities have toldt me that they do not want nor do they our row cant fix immigration system. president trump and congressional republicans wasted an entire year trying to take away americans health care, rushing through tax breaks for the super wealthy in the final weeks of the year and by squandering an entire year they pushed dreamers aside and put their lives in jeopardy. i voted to fund the government through the holidays so that congress could finally reach an agreement for

daca a. clean d.r.e.a.m. act is one i would support. a clean d.r.e.a.m. act.tant to understand, democrats have had their moments in history, where they had to confront racism, and they've said to people like george wallace, you are no longer welcome in the democratic party. republicans are having this moral leadership moment and they are failing miserably. what do you say to your children time after time when you see the president engaged in such reckless and childish behavior? and when you're reckless, you're not making america stronger, not making america greater. you're making america weaker. >> so how should democrats in congress work with this president? do you continue to try to work with him? would that be your recommendation? or do you say, halt it. let's go to the ballot box. >> hey, i'd say, bring back the 2014 immigration bill that passed in a bipartisan fashion in the senate. bring it up for an up or down vote in the senate and house. let's see where it goes. let's take up issues like the minimum wage, again, i bring these two issues up because his

daca. making sure that we do get the d.r.e.a.m. act.ts actually have the ability right now to stop, you know, to stop trying to deal with trump and making sure that they use their leverage to pass it on the 19th of the spending bill. so there's a lot that can be done right now, it's not just about an apology. it's making sure that both parties are standing up for what is right, and making sure we're getting away from these people in this election, that american people go out and vote and make sure what happened in alabama happens all across the country. in arizona, we have a lot of work to do for sure, making sure that this man does not continue to spread, you know, hate and racism across our state. >> and you draw a connection to alabama, where there was also the issue of criminal allegations against the candidate. whether arizona will look more like alabama or like arizona is the open question, up tote voters. i appreciate your analysis and your fact checking tonight on that. erika andiola and christina grier, we will be right back. m

daca issue. i know many people do not expect him to do that. >> for them but insist that a d.r.e.a.mer, a daca solutione part of this? there is no way at this point in any way shape or form that the president will entertain that? >> but erin let me ask you why they want that. it doesn't make practical sense when you think of the time line. so the government shutdown last night, continued resolution expired on january 19th. daca needs to be resolved by march. and only because court decisions this president gave the congress extra six months. they had nine months in 2017 did nothing. gave them another six months. and since then, for all the world to see in an hour meeting that you covered live, thank you for doing that is correct i think it's great to have that transparency in our government. >> would have been nice to have cameras in the meeting where he said s holes. >> told them that he would go ahead and help them resolve this issue. still willing to do that. but we can't get there if the government is shut down. if our military families don't know if they have the funding they need. let's listen cal

and if you say there's any clean way for daca and the d.r.e.a.m. act done, is there a cruelty to that? >> it has been disturbing they have been unwilling to sit down and negotiate until the last second. we tried, for example, even last night to say let us take the vote you're planning to take tomorrow, let us take it tonight. we can tell you it's not going to pass and let's use that 24 hours to work out a deal. but it's brinksmanship, and mitch mcconnell is putting the entire nation at peril. you asked me about the republican leader and democratic leader leaving the room together into the cloakroom. what they're doing right now is they're probably discussing how to do a very short couple days continuing resolution so we stay open and we're forced to do intensive negotiations to get this deal done. >> all right, we'll look for you to ereemerreemerge on the floor. thank you so much, jeff murkily, democrat from the state of oregon. chris matthews has called into us. obviously the host of "hardball." chris, we're walking tom cotton walk around on his p

said in the january 1th meeting and says i embrace the following approach to dealing with daca and the d.r.e.a.m. yergsorers. congress has met the challenge and here's what i'll stand by and we can include it and pass it quickly. the alternative is to have competing ideas. senator cotton and i have dramatically different ideas, competing ideas on the floor of the senate and then, this is critical, and then are brought up in the house. remember when we passed comprehensive immigration reform in the senate with an overwhelming bipartisan roll call and speaker boehner and the republicans refused to even consider it. >> you want stand-alone bills voted on in the senate, but it's my understanding that you don't want the house to vote on a stand-alone. >> no. the point we're getting to is we need clear assurance if we can pass a comprehensive or a bill in the senate that it will be taken up in the house and won't be ignored. the march 5th trump deadline on daca is looming, and we want to solve this problem long before. >> all right. i want to end with where we started. why was february 16th a non-star

d.r.e.a.m. act to protect recipients of the daca program with the budget. >> i work with undocumented youth like myself and we need a clean d.r.e.a.m. act. we need a pathway to citizenship. we don't want any enforcement. >> reporter: catais says she came from peru at a young age. now she worry for her family and her community. >> it is a hard time for us and there is a lot of fear. my parents and my mom is scared to take my niece to school. >> reporter: she joined others today who say they're trying to make the call even louder for more protections. >> i also want to remind the representatives that they have the power to affect our lives. >> reporter: they reminded that there are hot lines available for those that might find themselves under immediate action and for those who might need more general help. reporting live in san francisco, christie smith, nbc bay area news. >> christie, thank you. >>> state leaders are also taking a stand on the reports of the impending i.c.e. raids in california. the chronicle says in the coming days or weeks about 1500 undocumented workers will be targeted acros

d.r.e.a.m. act and approve daca, they can do it tomorrow. o it tomorrow, and they're not doing it. i don't think they have time to do that. if the president wants to wall for the d.r.e.a.m. act, well, they can negotiate that. look, there's already 700 miles of wall between mexico and the united states. but it's a completely useless wall as we discussed in the past. thousands of immigrants come by plane or with a visa. if he says he's a genius and really intelligent and he wants to waste $18 billion in a wall, let him waste that money. but let's just approve daca. >> it's interesting because hoyer, congressman hoyer also said today he believes president trump uses the term "wall" when he is talking about border security in general, which is obviously different than what he was saying on the campaign trail if that in fact is true. >> and the fact that the wall won't stop immigrants most of the drugs comes from ports of entry and through tunnels. as long as you have about 25 million americans who use illegal drugs in the united states, they're g

because if tomorrow there was a clean vote on the daca, a clean d.r.e.a.m.ct, i would vote for funding to continue government. so certainly we don't want to shut down. and, wolf, as you know, because you've covered a lot of these shutdowns, at one point when one party controls government last time we had shutdown was in the days of jimmy carter. all the other recent has been split governments. and really one has to ask if this president is such a deal maker, why has he not able to run a confident government that you have to go back 40 years for the las time we had a shutdown when you had one party control? >> you serve on the armed services committee. last month the defense department controller said, quoting now, emphasize too much the destructive a shutdown is. are you worried about the possible ripple effects on the military at the department of defense, contractors? >> well, i think as gloria pointed out, the essential military will still be on duty. but i am very concerned about how we are funding government with continuing resolution. when you talk to

d.r.e.a.m. act and let's never forget that we all come from somewhere. thank you. i yield the floor. >> more about dreamers and the daca -- >> i'm here today with a very simple straightforward demand. we must act now to pass a d.r.e.a.m. act. very simply, the honor and integrity of this chamber are at stake. young people who would be covered under the d.r.e.a.m. act are americans in all but name. they came here as children. they grew up as americans. they go to our schools, our in our military and sup

daca applications. >> we don't need them separating our families. >> reporter: at a rally outside of a federal building today, d.r.e.a.m.ers and activists called on congress to support a clean d.r.e.a.m. act to protect recipients of the daca program with a budget deadline looming. >> i work with undocumented youth like myself and really we need a clean d.r.e.a.m. act. we need the pathway to citizenship. we don't want any enforcement. >> reporter: this woman says she came here from peru at a young age. now she worries for her family and her country. >> it's a hard time for us. there's a lot of fear. >> reporter: as for defending the sanctuary city, breed had this response. >> when you grow up in the projects, you spend your whole life trying to avoid going to jail. but this is one of the issues that i wouldn't mind basically going to jail for the first time in my life over. >> reporter: breed also talked today about resources that are available for those who feel like they might be under some sort of immediate action. she's expecting to speak more about this tomorrow. reporting live in san francisco, christie smith, nbc bay area news. >>> neighbors are calling it nasty. we're talking

and i'm moping will include some kind of d.r.e.a.m. act or daca relief. like i said, you can put border security and border enforcement in a separate piece of legislation. there's no reason the majority can't do it. >>> what if it is in the same piece of legislation? >> then it depends what it contains. i've said we shouldn't trade the lives of 800,000 young people and their futures for a wall across america. i represent a big part of texas. the city of san antonio. and people throughout texas both republican and democrat have spoken out against the border wall. we don't want 1,200 miles of border wall between the united states and mexico. and i mention that had 80% of americans support the d.r.e.a.m.ers. it is not we only support them if we build a wall. it is, we support them. >>> with the deadline friday night dourgs believe a shutdown of the federal government is likely? >> i certainly hope not. i don't think any american and any legislator should want to see a government shutdown. at the same time we need to get these things done. we need to get daca

on this issue, on daca, or on the d.r.e.a.m. act for a number of years, the democrats are negotiating in good faith. we're trying to come forward with a compromise. and i think we have. you'll see that this week. >> are we farther away from a deal than we were on thursday morning? >> i'm not sure. i think that when we get back into town, people will realize there's only one deal in town. only one bipartisan bill. we need 60 votes. that bill will be presented. with even more republicans and democrats than we have right now. >> you said you're going to give a series of speeches on president trump and his relationship with the truth and his relationship with the press. including one that i believe is coming this week. we have gotten excerpts of what you're planning to say, taking on the president's comments about culling the press the enemy of the people. i want to read you a portion of what we have. it's a testament to the condition of our democracy that our own president uses words infamously spoken by joseph stalin to describe h

d.r.e.a.m. act, the daca kids, they've got a deadline coming up. they've got two months to fix this or these kids begin to lose their status. their lives are in limbo. so it was the drama of it. it was the radical change in donald trump. it was the conciliatory tone, it was the compassionate words coming out of donald trump's mouth. it was him, i thought being brilliant. tactically, strategically brilliant. he is laying this straight on congress's lap. if they don't come up with something, it's their fault, they own it. he's given them a deadline. he has stopped them from being able to keep this can being kicked down the road. >> listen, i want to listen to more. here's more of the president. >> if we do this properly, daca, you're not so far from comprehensive immigration reform. and if you want to take it that further step, i'll take the heat. i don't care. i'll take all the heat you want to give me. and i'll take the heat off of both democrats and republicans. my whole life has been heat. >> so john, the question -- and lindsey graham in that me

daca. president trump announced the d.r.e.a.m. act would end in march and said congress should solve it before then. everybody in washington says they would do something about it, but so far, nothing. the senate goes back to work tomorrow. the house next week. the senate, as you mentioned, gets a new senator from minnesota. doug jones starts, the new senator from alabama. >>> south korea reached out to north korea for talks. negotiations between the two countries would shut out the u.s. that certainly got president trump's attention this morning. he tweeted, rocketman now wants to talk to south korea for first time. perhaps that is good news. perhaps not. we will see. shortly after that, the president took credit for what marcus was talking about. he says there were no deadly commercial air traffic deaths in 2017. the president says that's because of his strict rules on commercial aviation. we look at the president's tweets and speeches every day on "today in the bay." you can tell me what you think about it. i'm on twitter. >> th

d.r.e.a.m. eer covered by daca and attacking the democrats. he tweeted quote i have offered daca a deal and a 12-year path way to citizenship because the republicans want to fix a long time material problem, two, to show the democrats do not want to solve daca, only use it. karsing a shadow over the moment of course the ongoing russia investigation and the news reported by the new york times that president trump ordered the firing of robert mueller in june. here with me now is susan collins, she's a member of the senate intelligence committee. we always appreciate you being here. >> thank you. >> i want to start with reports that the president ordered husband white house counsel to fire robert mueller. mueller was ultimately not fired. they say this story doesn't matter t does it matter to you? >> first i think it's important to note that the president cannot directly fire mr. mueller. the only person who can fire mr. mueller is the deputy attorney general, he's the person who appointed mr. mueller and last year at a hearing i questioned him a

d.r.e.a.m. act extension, and if you look at the bill that was put in regard, it wasn't just a daca fix, i meanad some path to staying in this country in definitely in the proposal that dick durbin and lindsay graham put in. the idea that there was a bill there that could have passed, that bill would never have passed the house of representatives without republican support. if you're the speaker of the house, you've got to put a bill forward that the majority of your members will vote could. >> vice president mike pence was speaking to the troops and this was the message he delivered. >> i'm sure you're all aware of what it's going on in washington, d.c. despite bipartisan support for a budget resolution, a minority in the senate has decided to play politics with military pay. but you deserve better, you and your families shouldn't have to worry for one minute about whether you're going to get paid. >> first of all, the real mvp of this entire process is whoever mike pence's scheduler is, he's never in washington, d.c., whenever there's a conflict, he always finds himself halfway around the wor

daca problem. president trump announced the d.r.e.a.m. act saying congress should solve it. everyone in washington says they will do something. so far, nothing. the senate is going to get back to work without senator al franken from minnesota. he is resigning for real today, a month after announcing he would. >>> a developing story worth watching. south korea reached out to north korea and offered talks after north korea said it might be willing to send a team to the upcoming winter olympics in south korea. this would shut out washington and trump, who threatened north korea in a series of tweets. >>> we look at what's happening in washington now that everybody is getting back to work. every day on "today in the bay," we also talk on twitter. you can reach me there. >> thank you, scott. >>> country music singer and star, kari underwood is revealing more about a fall she suffered and why she's been out of the public eye. we knew she broke her wrist as she fell outside her home. underwood says she injured her face and received dozens of stitches. she is still healing and her f

. >> do you suppose a path to citizenship for daca recipients and those in the d.r.e.a.m. act? >> we have to find a permanent solution, yes, sir. >> i hate that phrase, permanent solution. do you support a path to citizenship? >> i believe that as part of the discussion and to make sure that we don't continue temporary populations that continue to exist, we should talk about that. i'm not here to get in front of the president or any final decisions on that particular issue but, yes, i'm happy to discuss it. >> do you recall the president saying he wanted $20 billion now, and he would build this wall within one year? >> i do remember him saying that he was concerned that given the appropriations cycle, that any deal we made now would be limited to this year's appropriation. i remember him asking, is there a way to authorize the full down payment of the wall, such that we could have assurances that we could, in fact, build it. >> so let's take a look at what your department has done when it comes to building walls. as of december 6th, 2017, less than 1% of the $341 million approp

overwhelming majority of americans who support trying to protect these daca students. 8 out of 10 americans support the d.r.e.a.mpublicans support the d.r.e.a.m. act. so deep do you understand americans do understand the importance of protecting those seeking to be a part of the american dream. secretary of defense, i saw men and women in uniform from families across this country who were willing to fight and die for this country. as a matter of fact there are 900 daca young people who are in the military who are providing the skills and the capabilities that we need in order to protect our national security. deep down, the americans know that that's what makes our country strong. and i honestly believe that every american understands that we have to welcome those who need to be a part of the american dream. that is the great strength of what the united states of america is all about. >> you also write this, mr. secretary, president trump who himself is the grandson of immigrants and is march rried t immigrant, criticize better themselves as own family did. are you up beat, optimistic that there can be a deal on

daca issue. something similar to the so-called d.r.e.a.m. act that democrats have been pushing for a very long time. they are in sifting there needs to be a coat, pathway to passage on that proposal before they agreed to reopen the government. now republicans today are trying to make sure that the blame is plac placed squarely on democrats and even some republicans acknowledge this is very risky political if the shutdown goes beyond a couple of days. here is a sample going into the meeting. >> do you think the president is showing enough flexibility here in his negotiations with the democrats? >> i don't know where the president stands on this right now. i just don't know. >> would it be helpful for him to lay out where he stands? >> of course. that is always been an issue. whether it is our health care and now on this issue. he needs to be clear about what his position is. but in the meantime, the government has to be reopened. and there is a lot to blame to go around on all sides. we control the branchs so that is -- >> what is the mood li

, former chief spokesman for senate mujoerd leader harry rooet, and erica, daca recipient, leading to fight to get the d.r.e.a.m. act passed. jim, let me start with you. what do you make of cotton's role or the idea that cotton and meadows would have a veto on any of this? >> you know, it's just another symbol of the degradation of the political prosin this country. it's one thing for mark meadows to run around blowing things up in the house because, you know, that's the house. but for this kind of thought process to start moving over into the senate is very, very dangerous. but having said that, you know, senator cotton can think of these ideas all he wants, but the fact of the matter is they're widely unpopular and under the current rules of the senate, you know, nothing he suggests is ever going to get through the senate. maybe that's his point. he just wants to, you know, score political points. but he's going to lose in the overall thrust of things. >> what is your perspective, the folks you work with, organize with, who have been obviously on the front lines of this. what is your perspective as you watch

daca. >> washington under the gun to get something done. some version of the d.r.e.a.m. proved by congress. yesterday, president trump went beyond the spray, where a tv camera man briefly videos or sprays the cabinet meeting. cameras were allowed to stay as the president talked about daca, indicating he is up for compromise z. >> phase one, daca and security and we do phase two, immigration. i think we should go to it. we do one, then the other. >> you know, a federal judge made a move regarding daca tuesday. kris sanchez will fill ewe in on that in a moment. many of us saw this tv camera move as a way to show donald trump is in charge and mentally competent as millions of americans read "fire and fury." millions more are waiting to read it. amazon says it back order on the book is four weeks. the san jose library says there are 1,011 holds on the book. >>> the trump administration says they will open up offshore drilling in america but they changed their mind. no drilling off florida, after even republicans in florida objected. interior secretary ryan syn key says the ch

daca. they would -- they would pass a clean d.r.e.a.m. act.nk one of the problems that has happened here is paul ryan and mitch mcconnell, the two leaders of these two chambers, they just refuse to put that to the floor. so we can see if that will happen. on the house side, there is about 40 house republicans who said, we would vote for a d.r.e.a.m. act but paul ryan refused to put that on the floor because he knows what will happen. he put this c.r. and put c.h.i.p. on there as hostage. something they could have reauthorized months ago. and said, oh, yeah, you guys have to choose between c.h.i.p. and the d.r.e.a.m.ers. that is ridiculous. that is a false choice. and now it went back to -- it goes to mitch mcconnell and now mitch mcconnell, he can't put that to the floor because paul ryan just did what he did. and so it is just ridiculous here. the arguments are ridiculous. it is absurd. this belongs at the feet -- the trump shutdown belongs to trump and it belongs to the republicans. >> i want to get jen in but i'll have to take a break. so s

there's no reason why the president had to rescind daca and they couldn't replace that with a d.r.e.a.m. act. the majority of republicans support, battleground voters, the majority of, support. this has been about gamesmanship. you do have to wonder. it comes back to fundamentally, i don't think there's a conservative vision for governance right now. and donald trump sees this all as a reality show. there should be a good shutdown. he really wants a wall that is deeply unpopular, even across the country. he wants a mass deportation plan, which is unpopular across the country. and i think that the things that the democrats are standing up for are the things -- theinds of values that are putting hundreds of thousands of people in seet across this country, which are love, inclusion, tolerance, the american dream for everyone who is willing to work for it. >> roland martin, let me ask you about that, the crucible in which this is all unfolding. we're seeing the marches taking place across the country and nod to the fact that the president has been the president of the united states for a ye

d.r.e.a.m. act being involved, or beyond a fixed daca, if that can't be done tonight. >> not giving much information. it seems that there will be some big all encompassing deal here tonight. republicans are saying they've got a house passed bill, they're ready to put it on the floor, they think perhaps they can urge more red state democrats like joe donnelly from indiana, who came out today, and said he would support this continuing resolution, perhaps they can pull more folks like that across the aisle, but more concerningly for people who want to see the government open, senators i have talked to in both parties today have seemed increasingly comfortable with their own political arguments about who would be to blame if it should shut than they were comfortable with what a possible solution could look like in the next six hours. it's not clear what the president wants and it's not entirely clear what democrats would be willing to accept. and that's where we stand with just a few hours to go before this deadline. >> darren, talk a little bit about republicans is there a sense that republicans have t

am i >> you said 10, 12 years for citizenship for th d.r.e.a.mers >> we'll see if they make the right deal these are people with strong opinions on daca, immigration generally. i happen to think they're largely right. we're going to try to make a deal on daca we have a good chance of making it what we need is we need the wall, we need security we need security at the border we have to stop the drugs from coming in we need safety and a strong military. we need almost more than ever before we've been in war. so we needed it then but we need to be sure that our military is properly funded. and it would be really great to get rid of the -- you know, we'd like to have a regular budget. >> will you ask for 25 billion, mr. president? did chuck schumer offer 1$1.6 billion -- >> sure, he took it back >> how much did he agree to? >> he didn't really take it back you see numerous senators on the other side, they say we would give the wall in two minutes if we could solve daca. everybody wants to solve the daca problem it should have been solved by pr president obama, especially when he had the house and senate, it could have been involeen solved