dagen, what do you think. >> right on.- >> with a southern accent can you say that again. >> right on. >> ben did it well. >> neil: he could not. >> right on, right on. >> see? >> right on. >> neil: all right. all right. >> right on. >> right on. >> this is, it's not going to get in the way of the democrats spng money and you're already-- ben isn't getting in the way. >> they have the trogan horse in there, the stimulus panel has gone from 787 billion already to 862 billion and going to go to at least a trillion dollars. they're extending existing programs, they're adding new ones ap raising government spending and it will continue until somebody says no and i bet you that's bond buyers. >> to me it seems like charles, global warming. global warming, hot out global warming and cold out. and we need more spending because the proof is in the pudding and it works or we don't see anything working so you can have it both ways. >> people are underestimating our economy. this is a 14 trillion dollar economy we were talking about

don't call it a tax break. >> dagen's making a great point. there's just too much stuff. too much money gunshot this way and that way. too many credits and debits and it's mass confusion. typically when all is said and done, the average american will get screwed with too much in rules an regulation. >> they don't have money to stands up to the i.r.s. if you're a corporation, you can fight that. if the i.r.s. knocks on your door and you're joe off the street they beat you up. >> it gets in the way of smooth separations but there's 47% of people not paying federal income tax. they're almost half of americans figured out just fine how to work the tax code. the reason that number is high is because all the breaks and exemptions. >> you mentioned the recession, 47% of americans not paying federal taxes. why are we building an army of i.r.s. agents? >> maybe we should add them to the census. we talk about the rules and regulation, some of them really help the economy. if you think about the deductions for mortgage interest payments, that's helping in this climate when we're in

>> dagen is the genius of geniuses. houses are the bargains of bargains right now. >> beverly hills is back! >>> the nanny state is already here and "forbes" folks say the i.r.s. has the proof. new report shows nearly half of all american households don't pay a penny in federal income tax. meantime, more americans are getting more government hand-outs than ever before from healthcare to home bail-out. less folks paying, more folks receiving. hello nanny state. i'm david asman. welcome to forbes on fox. go in focus, with liz, neil and quinton hardy and victoria barrett. vicky, we start with you. >> we are living in a nanny state already, david. half of the american people paying for the other half. 40% of tax filers get a check back in the mail from the government. net profit for them. so the other half continue to pay. then you have college loans and foreclosures that do other things to do sort of what i consider prolong not great behavior. that's not a good nanny. good nanny knows children have to grow up to be ind opi