i said, daggum, there is something over there. and it was so far away, i just -- it was just a -- just a little blur or something. and so i kept my eyes on it and about two or three minutes later, i saw it a third time. i said, daggum, there is something over there. so i went over on top of the boat and the other guys were up there. and i said, hey, there's something over there in the water. and they looked. said, i don't see nothing, i don't see nothing. i said i'm telling you there's something. turn the boat around. >> could you believe it when eight days later you were finally going to be rescued by eddie there? >> no. i told kurt -- me and kurt was waving a flag and t-shirt. i told him, i said, look, he got to be coming. can he see us? he sees us, james. does he see us, kurt? he sees us. when that boat got close enough and it turned around, i was fixing to hit the water and eddie stopped me and said, you got a life jacket? i don't need a life jacket to swim from here to there. let me on your boat. >> kurt, what about -- kurt,