okay, daivid, i'm going to star with you. "g "did he show a strategy for growth?yeah, people want to invest in it. there's a lot of great signals which positive. >> number, though, one to ten. >> i'd say probably an eight. >> what about you, norm? >> that's interesting. i think there is enough room for growth but i didn't get enough information from that so that was lacking in his pitch. it's a good pitch, but that was lacking. i'd have to give it about a 6 1/2. >> and a half. our first one and you're giving halves. "p," passionate. form. >> yeah, i think he was very passion that the. i think he believed in the product. so that came across really, really great. and for that i'd give him a 9. >> how about you, david? >> i'm in a similar camp. i love the product in both the conversation that it has a purpose. it's good for social good but also has a utility that can be commercialized in a broad sense. there's a lot of good things about the purpose and the passion behind the story. >> so? >> i'd say probably a 9 as well. >> a 9. and then finally sense. it's easier wh