dale ho and nina turner.ning for secretary of state which would have a lot of say in her state of ohio. let me start with mr. ho. tell me about north carolina and what's going on there. i went to grad school down there. i love that state. but it seems like there's something turning really hard right in the legislature which is already effecting the university system down there. but tell me about the voting system. it seems to me to reduce the number of black votes down there, they can knock around that senate seat by simply it seems to me reducing the size of the electorate to the republicans' advantage. >> well, north carolina passed as you noted, chris, the most suppressive voting law last year that the country saw. it may be the most suppressive voting law in any state in decades. and in our view, this is a case, an issue that needs to be resolved in advance of the midterm elections in november. north carolina doesn't see it that way. they want to put this case off until 2015. but if they really believed i