my name is dale seymour. long time person in the city of san francisco and in the tenderloin. spent 18 of my long time years homeless, living out on the streets. so i know a little bit about this situation with navigation centers. so now i run a school that hopes formerly homeless people tha gets their lives together and there's a good number of my students that are living in navigation centers, so they're a very important part of the fabric of the city. i just spoke at a land use summit last week in seattle, washington, and almost every question was directed our navigation centers. so we really should realize what a gem we have in these navigationnter the navigation center civic center when i was homeless, i lived in there. the department of homelessness put me in there for two years. so i know the importance of having a place to call yourself home, even if just for a few more days than we're expecting it to be. both of the navigation centers, actually improve the neighborhoods. i know what civic center was before it game a navigation center. that street was nothing nice what