marke but it's really important for us to gauge dale seymour.i think that gentleman is an outstanding individual. i this commission or whatever interaction we do witheymour would be healthy. and i myself would like to have some exchange with him as well. okay. i ring a lot in terms of what his experiences and his perspective. and he'sctive, the other name that i saw is i ross mirkarimi was the director of the heart with this commission when die's been the director of this program? i feel like it's been. well, they've been in existence for over a year, and i'm not on board, if he was with urban alchemy prior to that before program. not quite sure. okay. and i just out of identify him because he was my supervisorve. sheriff as well, this san i'm happy to see his name. yeah, but also in terms of the heart program or any other programs we've been following program ems, six crisis teams that overlapping programs, and sometimes so when you say ross mirkarimi the heart program, point again, i'm leading to some education piece. if youcommission can kind

share speaks for itself, but it's really important for us to gauge, i appreciate you mentioning dale seymourink that this commission or whateverclnteraction we do with mr. seymour would be healthy. and i myself would like to have some exchange with him as well. okay. i think it would bring a lot in terms of what his experiences and his perti active, the other name that i saw is i did not know director of the heart program, can you share with this commission when did that occur that he's been the director of this program? iee at least. wele been in existence for over a yearani'm not sure when he came on board, if he was with urban alchemyat, before the heart program. not quite sure. okay. and i just respect to ross mirkarimi, identify him because he was my supervis formerly in district five. sheriff as well, this san franciscan. but, i'm happy to see h also in terms of the heart program oran, ems, six crisis teaha i know there's overlapping programs, and sometimes i get confused. and so when you say rossirkami the heart program, i think at some point, again, i'm leading to some educn if you w