as dalia dippolito learned to her regret. in that scene where she appears to be hammering out the details, it turns out the supposed killer for hire was an undercover cop making recordings for the boynton beach police department. >> what they do is they step to a friend or an associate or someone that they knew in their past. and what happens, in the vast majority of the time, the person they step to goes to law enforcement. >> really? they get ratted out? >> reporter: the next step is actually to stage a false murder. dippolito was called home by police one day and given the false news that inside her husband lay dead. murdered. >> i'm sorry to tell you, ma'am, he's been killed. >> no, no! >> he's been killed, ma'am. >> no! no, no! >> reporter: then they got her into an interrogation room -- >> first of all, just let me tell you i'm sorry for your loss. >> reporter: she continues to speak as a shocked widow. remember, as far as she knows, her husband is dead. >> why would they go through that? what are they establishing ther

. >> dalia's husband didn't believe her when she got him on the phone from jail. >> you know more than anybody it's not trucht. >> you send me to get killed. >> it's not true. how can you believe that? >> i heard your voice. >> i didn't do anything. >> doesn't matter, you can fire five [ bleep ] lawyers, they're charging your ass to have your voice, your face evidence on tape. >> i would be willing to predict she's use this cry, playing dumb role in other scenarios in her life. obviously it's not working here. >> end of the story. >> except for one more point. the price tag. the value of life snuffed out. the alleged money that dahlia was to play her hitman. $3,000 plus the cost of a gun. the number in play, in matthew's situation, 5,000 before the hit and 5,000 after the maybe you can buy a decent truck on the lot. >> when the value of life is cheap. john donvan reporting. when we come back they share the state and defense p. hillary clinton and secretary robert gates side by side for our exclusive interview. [ male announcer ] you're at the age where you don't get thrown by curve bal

dalia so the question? >> i actually have to shoot out for questions. you don't have to answer them all. i work for the smithsonian and i've heard of the project through various colleagues but my first question is to throw out to you think art museums are failing across the united states because you are creating a container that is going to go and travel to. you talked about the lack of a visual literacy i think for those of us who worked in the regional small museums, national museums, international -- i am a curator and most of confess that as was administrator -- the whole thing is trying to get people to see the museum as a library for visual ideas. the fact this is coming from the artist's gives you the freedom this isn't an obvious stance it seems like there was this loose aspect but i guess i'm asking what is the sort of long term goal or hope that you will come out of this because i think you can have these interventions and artists are fantastic about interventions in the way the project and produce these things. you talked about containers but

amsterdam while she is back in quincy, so that like you would think maybe some of madison's, you know, dalia and james madison would create a equivalent correspondence, but they don't because they are always together. and maybe washington -- martha and george -- but george requests and martha concurs that upon his death they will destroy all of their correspondence. only three letters survived. so part of this -- part of the story is available to us because its volume of the letters. the volume is important but quality is more important. even if james and dolley road and even if they didn't destroy their own of letters, they wouldn't match the correspondence. it is the literary quality and it is the level of emotional honesty and candor that they sustain for 59 years. and allows us to understand what love means a free lifetime, not just romeo and juliet romantic love adolescence, but as it seasons and changes and as you suffer together. abigail was asked in her old age whether she would do it all over again and she said i cannot imagine suffering the same amount of anyone else. [laughter] by

caller it dalia. i am a cuban-american and i am proud as a marker rubio. he is a fresh, young face who is a very articulate, who knows what it is like to lose your country because of his background. he knows about socialism and that it doesn't work. and the reason these democrats are going to lose this time is because they became arrogant, they decided what was good for us. they didn't care at the opinion of the people. that is why they are going down. and so is mr. obama. this is not a socialist country. and they should all be aware what it is like to be in a socialist country. i love my homeland, and i don't want to -- my grandchildren to lose it. host: democrat, who has impressed you most? caller: two people who impressed me. one is a national person and the other is a local candidate. i will start with the local candidate. i live in carroll county, maryland, which went for mccain in 2008 but we do have an active democratic citizens here. kimberly macal is running for commissioner and i believe she was inspired by obama's campaign. she is a young africa

. >> if there is a net present dalia that makes it more valuable than foreclosure that proves not to be the result -- >> if we should modify the london and should be modified. >> what about the principal reduction, mandatory? >> principal reduction, first of all, we are participating in the hamp principal reduction that was recently rolled out. all of our analysis indicates that what is most important is that the borrowers ha affordable mortgage payments and we've got lots of experience having done many modifications. and we do that by reducing the interest rate, by extending the term, and by deferring principles where necessary with no interest attached to that. we as a servicer have a duty to our investors to minimize office and principal forgiveness potentially increased losses, it then lastly i think if we want to rebuild the u.s. mortgage market and continue to have investors and banks have confidence in the market, we need to ensure that the collateral values are there. >> and a stand that, but going back i recall four years ago making the case the was a study done in the squar

i'm not sure i agree with characterization as a dalia transfer because we built transfers that valueustomers and the amount we get for those channels is competitive, not against when you compare rates to the national geographic channel we get left in discovery we compete with. >> let me come back to the competitive and i want to recognize senator lemieux. spriggs before, mr. chairman and for the way you are approaching it where we can have a discussion about these issues. sitting here listening to this occurs to me that there's a lot of regulation of this industry and perhaps it's the regulation that's causing the problem. while i agree television is important and certainly i want to be able to watch football and baseball i've heard words like a devastating and crisis applied to these things in light of the other things that we are addressing it congress, not sure that they are. but let me say that with all these regulations perhaps the view should not be that we should create more regulation but maybe we should unpack some of the regulations we already have. the world is changing. t

people are dalia over there. the least you could do is have integrity to look at things with objective eyes and tell the truth as best you understand. this gentleman over here. >> my name is tony berman, i am of the a al jazeera base in washington. i was the managing director of al jazeera english based and i've been back in north america located here for about a month and my first week back was the week of the florida pastor who was the aftershock of the so-called ground zero mosque. my question monday night and as somebody who's kind of lee engaged now in north america particularly the u.s. is the incredible shrill level of the debate, and i guess i find your theme about is the environment here open to a rational, to alternative approaches, a serious one. what is you're i guess your own thinking as to what is driving it, and are you hopeful or confident that when this congressional election is over with in november that temperature lower and that there will be more openness to looking at alternative approaches

fielder dalia is a nonsmoker and in terms of medical condition they're both diabetic but the younger guy happens to be very noncompliant and the older one happens to be diabetic whose control on dalia alone. who would use a? we can argue about this but i would say b. you kind of goofy little fault after you got the additional information. and i would say what we found is that their bodies would be very different on ct scans. it's not affect about kolevar ability but how the deal with the mobility. so all i'm interested in saving lives and i don't -- they come to me after having sustained their injury and what we have found is that what really matters is the body conditioning , okay? and what we've learned to do is focus on the individual patient. medical treatment over the last several decades have gotten better, and i think a lot of that is it has become more personalized. we know the population is comprised of a diverse group of individuals and effective treatment and prevention requires differences between individuals be taken into account. treat the patient and not the diseases w

couple, not the sort of little tuitele my grandchildren what to think of me, but some interesting daliaareas of slave owners when they're not showing off, they are just marking how many barrels and writing up and down. it's really interesting because they aren't cruel. i mean, they do cruel things, the are not cruel people. with the obviously are doing is working out some relationship that is so damaging to them, really damaging it is a form of self destruction. it's a powerful form of self destruction that i don't care how big the spectacle whether it's germany and the 30's or 40's it's still a spectacle and it's about one's salles floating in a fertility that you need that spectacle. well, that is my lecture for today. [laughter] >> i have had a number of faults also i want to put in parentheses because i want us to come back and that relates to something you said earlier about the profitability of punishment but i want us to think about privatization of libraries. >> the jordan? [laughter] >> well, in the justice we experienced over the last several decades of privatization of health

and if you're going to give them dalia will spectrum -- because i can turn that spectrum into a broadband wireless network very effected flee i think and serves a different part of the community. it is a valuable resource to the country and it's being used in a way that sexually abusing the consumers of the country. >> could i just that every household in america did have the opportunity including everyone living in cable television to get the world series over the air for free. >> which makes the notion of charging for it ridiculous. [laughter] >> we treasure the opportunity to provide a signal for free, others are read transmitting the signal and the building a business based on it, we feel we have a right to be compensated if someone else is building a business based on the retransmission of our content we pay a lot of money for and invest a lot of money in. >> senator pryor. >> thank you, mr. chairman. i want to thank all the changes in technology and society since 1992. i do feel like it is time for us to try to draft legislation that embraces all those changes in the past but also p

. >> if there is a net present dalia that makes it more valuable than foreclosure that proves not to be the result -- >> if we should modify the london and should be modified. >> what about the principal reduction, mandatory? >> principal reduction, first of all, we are participating in the hamp principal reduction that was recently rolled out. all of our analysis indicates that what is most important is that the borrowers have affordable mortgage payments and we've got lots of experience having done many modifications. and we do that by reducing the interest rate, by extending the term, and by deferring principles where necessary with no interest attached to that. we as a servicer have a duty to our investors to minimize office and principal forgiveness potentially increased losses, it then lastly i think if we want to rebuild the u.s. mortgage market and continue to have investors and banks have confidence in the market, we need to ensure that the collateral values are there. >> and a stand that, but going back i recall four years ago making the case there was a study done in the s

weeks to have taxes go up dramatically, and to have a significant number of people who are going to dalia in january and february, i don't know if you saw the rather extraordinary statement of the congressman from my why only last week saying that some of her constituents had said that they would pull their own blood before january, which is -- it will get your attention, let's put it that way. but logic in this case doesn't necessarily work given the larger political dynamic. now there are obvious compromise is that you could reach the would kick the can down the road. i still think it is more likely than not that the debate. some of it let me say depends on rather the outside forces that were building in september and october to try to completely delegitimize a lame-duck session saying that these were people who were hijacking the policy process after the voters have spoken. if you get that kind of a drum beat, it becomes much tougher to cut a deal. only if that gets dampened down will we see it happen. >> john? >> i am looking for a lehman lame-duck session. the one exception norm ment

. >> if there is a net present dalia that makes it more valuable than foreclosure that proves not to be the result -- >> if we should modify the london and should be modified. >> what about the principal reduction, mandatory? >> principal reduction, first of all, we are participating in the hamp principal reduction that was recently rolled out. all of our analysis indicates that what is most important is that the borrowers have affordable mortgage payments and we've got lots of experience having done many modifications. and we do that by reducing the interest rate, by extending the term, and by deferring principles where necessary with no interest attached to that. we as a servicer have a duty to our investors to minimize office and principal forgiveness potentially increased losses, it then lastly i think if we want to rebuild the u.s. mortgage market and continue to have investors and banks have confidence in the market, we need to ensure that the collateral values are there. >> and a stand that, but going back i recall four years ago making the case there was a study done in the s