that's here she's a global opinions editor for the washington post she joins me tonight from dallas texas karen it's good to have you on the program 2 years ago you wrote an opinion piece in the washington post today had the headline i no longer have hope in white america what would the headline be tonight. interesting question and i get asked this question a lot actually about hope and i think my responses somewhat similar to what i wrote back then which is taken from there are certain channing and it's this notion that i don't work or operate or write out of hope to write out of the shadow of. it could be that in my lifetime i don't see these issues go away. just say you know black slaves without their children and their grandchildren would be slaves. so i would operate in this shadow of hope that i. work anyway. i don't think hope is quite the right question i think that is a question more so for white america. but the reason though is that health care things will get better and. let me ask you about something we're seeing right now we're seeing police officers across the u.s. male taking a

that's here she's a global opinions editor for the washington post she joins me tonight from dallas texas karen is going to have you on the program to years ago you wrote an opinion piece in the washington post and they have the headline i no longer have hope in white america what with the headline be tonight. interesting question and i get asked this question a lot actually about hope and i think my responses somewhat similar to what i wrote back then which is taken from their ostend sharing and it's this notion that i don't work or operate or write out of hokie right out of the shadow. it could be that in my lifetime i don't see these issues go away. just like you know black slaves probably thought their children and their grandchildren would be slaves. so i would operate in this shadow of hope that i knew worked anyway. i don't think hope is quite the right question i think that is a question more so for white america. for the reason that we should help the things will get better and. let me ask you about something we're seeing right now we're seeing police officers across the u.s. male taki