dalton connelly. elle chen contributing editor at in these times and co-host of a podcast and patrick gleason, director of state affairs at americans for tax reform. dalton, i want to start with you about the ways in which college either widens or narrows inequality in this country and particularly whether or not you think this plan to provide more community college access will widen or narrow inequality. >> well the returns to a college education in terms of later earnings are higher than they have ever been in history and getting higher every year. if we don't do something, college will serve to wooindiden the gap and reduce economic mobility even more. i greatly support this program. i think there's a few tweaks that need to be made but it's a great step forward and the best program since the g.i. bill of the '50s. >> but on that return because i'm a college professor, i probably have predisposed to like the idea of more people going to college, but on the other hand when we looked at the returns fo